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sponyja
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hello! this is my build:
PowerHouse (Link to this build)
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Recovery (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: Sureshot
Level 6: Brilliant
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Agile
Level 15: Academics
Level 18: Coordinated
Level 21: Shooter
Powers:
Level 1: Power Bolts
Level 1: Concentration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Overdrive
Level 8: Concussor Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Chest Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 17: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Resurgent Reiki)
Level 23: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Deafening Dissolution)
Level 26: Micro Munitions (Rank 2)
Level 29: Masterful Dodge
Level 32: Energy Shield (Phalanx Defense System)
Level 35: Lock N Load
Level 38: Immolation
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Jet Boots (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
i have 40 lvl and i think weak items, i have about 5,500 HP and 220 energy with 160 rec.
AND I ALWAYS LOSE duels :P is it matter of items ? i need more dex, con and ego ?
i can do some high damage but i die before i can try, build is very good in PVE (i like to play this) but in duels i die very fast, any advice ?
PowerHouse (Link to this build)
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Recovery (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: Sureshot
Level 6: Brilliant
Level 9: Indomitable
Level 12: Agile
Level 15: Academics
Level 18: Coordinated
Level 21: Shooter
Powers:
Level 1: Power Bolts
Level 1: Concentration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Overdrive
Level 8: Concussor Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Chest Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 17: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Resurgent Reiki)
Level 23: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Deafening Dissolution)
Level 26: Micro Munitions (Rank 2)
Level 29: Masterful Dodge
Level 32: Energy Shield (Phalanx Defense System)
Level 35: Lock N Load
Level 38: Immolation
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Jet Boots (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
i have 40 lvl and i think weak items, i have about 5,500 HP and 220 energy with 160 rec.
AND I ALWAYS LOSE duels :P is it matter of items ? i need more dex, con and ego ?
i can do some high damage but i die before i can try, build is very good in PVE (i like to play this) but in duels i die very fast, any advice ?
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I say that not to brag, but to express just how far a gap there is between your current setup and that of a typical pvp oriented build.
There are sooo many points to cover, but first thing you need to decide is just how much of a priority winning in duels and general pve is. You can only optimize for one or the other, albeit the difference being is that a pvp build can generally pve decently, but a pve optimized build will rarely be effective in pvp.
Let me try to sum some key points up.
1. Knock rez - str is your primary source of knock rez, I typically try to run at least 200 str or 200% knock rez. A knock can easily set you up for a killing blow.
2. Con - HP is essential, in the current dynamic, low hp builds aren't effective. For Freeforms, I would shoot for a min of 9k, but you'll often see 10k -14k.
3. Perception - in Tier 4 (lvl 31-40) its pretty standard for most pvp builds, in order to have it, you need special gear and a lot of Int (typically 250+)
4. Energy - MSA is standard fare for energy unlocks. You need to be able to fight without reliance on your EB.
5. NTTG - you need to be able to remove travels, and the only 2 100ft nttg carriers are force geyser and hurl - they are effectively staples.
6. Masterful dodge - any pvp setup should have this standard. No active defense is more versatile
7. Healing - you'll often see resurgence and conviction on a pvp setup - with good reason.
8. High damage spike - because most opponents have small windows of vulnerability, you'll typically need a huge damage spike to kill. No power hits harder than Force Cascade, but it's also the most expensive power in game. There are other options, and you'll often see Ebon ruin as a lower cost alternative that also more importantly debuffs healing.
what do you think about that tank:
PowerHouse (Link to this build)
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
Level 15: Strength (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Master
Level 6:
Level 9:
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:
Powers:
Level 1: Clobber
Level 1: Defiance (Rank 2, Force of Will)
Level 6: Mighty Leap (Crippling Challenge, Nailed to the Ground)
Level 8: Devour Essence (Rank 2, Phlebotomist)
Level 11: Parry (Rank 2, The Elusive Monk)
Level 14: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 17: Masterful Dodge
Level 20: Resurgence
Level 23: Unbreakable
Level 26: Haymaker (Rank 2, Nullifying Punch)
Level 29: Reconstruction Circuits (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 35: Havoc Stomp (Rank 2)
Level 38: Nanobot Swarm (Rejuvinating Injectors)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Jet Pack (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Superjump (Rebounding Resilience)
i have made it before reading your post so it lacks of spike damage, but i think it has good survivability and is hard to kill, am I right ?
Granted most duelers aren't at that level - but some are.
Oh, forgot to mention - melee is currently dead in the water in pvp's current state. You might get by on a shadowstrike setup, but it depends mostly on your opponent.
You also would never take reconstruction circuits in pvp.
You have no INT to scale with Msa
tele/acro are the two standard pvp travels
You'll effectively need fg/hurl. its standard for a reason.
Most pvp setups dont slot a block, as they need all the powers they can get.
There is, you just have to catch the hero game queues at the right time. You could also considering joining CoPVP (chat channel), but as I've had to add several folks (practically an entire sg) your copvp experience may be far different than mine.
PowerHouse (Link to this build)
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Grimoire
Level 6: Quick Recovery
Level 9: Negotiator
Level 12: Healthy Mind
Level 15: Amazing Stamina
Level 18: Investigator
Level 21: Academics
Powers:
Level 1: Electric Bolt
Level 1: Electric Shield (Rank 2)
Level 6: Electric Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Concentration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Hurl (Crippling Challenge, Nailed to the Ground)
Level 14: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 17: Masterful Dodge
Level 20: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Unbreakable
Level 32: Sonic Device (Deafening Dissolution)
Level 35: Nanobot Swarm (Rank 2, Rejuvinating Injectors)
Level 38: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Lightning Flash
Level 35: Jet Pack (Rank 2, Rank 3)
no shield means i dont know what to take at level 1,
i will join CoPVP chat, thank you!
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1:
Level 6:
Level 9:
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:
Powers:
Level 1: Boomerang Toss
Level 1: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 6: Concentration
Level 8: Sonic Device (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Masterful Dodge
Level 17: Resurgence
Level 20: Smoke Grenade (Escape Artist)
Level 23: Ascension
Level 26: Force Geyser (Hard Landing, Nailed to the Ground)
Level 29: Aura of Primal Majesty (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Ebon Ruin (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Imbue (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 38:
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Teleportation (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Versatility)
Specializations:
Strength: Swole (3/3)
Strength: Quick Recovery (2/2)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
Protector: Fortified Gear (1/3)
Protector: Unrelenting (2/2)
Protector: Bulwark (2/2)
Protector: Defensive Expertise (2/3)
Protector: Resolute (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (1/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Elusive (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Protector Mastery (1/1)
This is an example of a typical AoPM Er setup - you can swap fg or hurl as your pref.
Imbue is normally sooner, but as its getting changed I have it later in the build
Ascension is nearly required these days
Your primary will typically be str or int, depending on if you want the extra defense more or defense penetration or revitalize from int.
not trying to be offensive to either of you,and i agree with Secksegai,that this is a very nice build that almost everyone uses in pvp....and now everyone plus one is what we need?
not meaning you shouldn't start pvp'ing just saying that you should try to be inventive...there are hundreds of AoPM/imbue copy builds out there at the moment and the game is soo boring when you see the same build,over and over again in BASH...
it's a good start however and in the end it's all a matter of choice
(btw Chest Beam + SHoulder launcher combo is the best dmging aattack of the game atm)
When there are only a limited number of optimal solutions, taking a suboptimal solution for the problem you wish to solve is deeply foolish. Diversity isn't rewarded in this game; most especially not in the PvP portion where there is no such thing as 'good enough', only 'best' and 'dead'.
Encouraging someone to take a non-optimal solution in the face of competitive pressure is telling them, "I want you to lose."
Given that most don't wish to lose ... you shouldn't be surprised when they ignore your advice.
There is no such thing as a free lunch. If you aren't paying for it, you aren't the customer; you are the product being sold.
Dollar, dollar, bill, yo. Cash rules everything around you and me.
That was a nice way of putting it - I'm typically not so gentle with folks rocking that sg (or a forum name that lame).
The real irony is that was coming from an SG notorious for having the same setup.
I can understand what you're saying to some extent if you're trying to win, but if you're trying not to lose, it doesn't really matter so much. Many of the so-called "optimal builds" lose to so-called "sub-optimal" builds, mainly because the pilot, if you will, didn't create it and/or doesn't work well enough with its components.
A lot of people like Force Cascade, a lot of people hate it. If you don't know enough about what you're doing, you'll fail. Even if all other things are equal, one player can defeat another if he outsmarts him, or if he chooses a different strategy, and maintains awareness of his opponent's strategy.
I've beaten cascade copy-builds before, and all I had was martial arts. Last one I fought was recently when she felt the need to walk out of the arena. I figured she realized she would lose, based on what happened before she decided to walk. Copy-building "optimized" builds isn't always equal to superiority.
Like I said elsewhere, I know how annoying it is to listen to disrespectful players about their "original builds" and they can't even win. I also know how annoying it is to listen to disrespectful copy builders or copy originators.
Even "elite pvp" duelists have a weakness; if you're observant enough you can find it.
So far, no one has been specific enough about why your initial build would lose. Having 5,500 health points makes it harder to survive, but definitely not too hard. I've fought people who did quite well with 5,500 hp but most don't. I don't fight them anymore, unless I think they're pro, or copy builders. Quarry will make you squishy unless you're good at healing yourself. Dodge/Avoidance gear helps quarry too. Your first build has almost no defense, and only one heal, a heal that usually works best with its advantage, and a heal that has been nerfed earlier this year, I would say it was nerfed incorrectly.
You chose a lot of offensive powers and very few defensive powers, no defensive countermeasures. Your superstats are all energy related, which is why you only have 5,500 hp.
Ascension: Fly away, fly away LOL. Melee can't stop you from flying away, boost your healings.
But what do I know, LOL I don't even have a decent range pvp build.
Yes ego surge will indeed give you the crit heals but ascension gives the bonus to heals which is still nice on top of the quick get-away flight from your enemy which they cannot NTTG. Ascension is hardly used as an active "offense" which is why some people suggested that it be made an active defense instead.
One thing you should understand - the serious competitors don't want "copied" builds - but On-Alert narrowed the field of possibilities of competitve power picks. I used to be a signficant threat even on my lowly ATs to all players regardless of skill level. It's just too easy to counter/avoid/escape now.
I posted the example so you'd have a clear idea of what a competitive build will typically look like. The field of capable opponents is so thin these days, I'm more than happy to provide information to get new interested parties caught up. In my current 3 pvp builds, of the actual power selections, maybe 3 or 4 are different, the rest are practically required framework for the folks I fight against, and that's basically "the best of what's left".
This is true. You can't expect a random person to perform at Formula 1 skill level just by putting him/her in the driver seat. But you also can't expect a regular car to compete against of field of F1 racers with capable opponents.
There really is no such thing as elite pvp duelist, pvp elite maybe, but duelist not so much. It's possible to have fights that last so long that the duel draws out, where neither party wins and neither party exited the bubble or fell. Alert changed the dynamics drastically.
I think a number of us have been waiting for you to give us your in game handle so that we could fight.
If you look near the beginning of the thread, you will see more "specifics".
Quarry is squishy - if dodge doesn't proc on a big hit you're likely dead.
Defense is relative - MD is the majority of everyone's mitigation these days.
The hardest folk to kill tend to be supports running over 10k hp with at least one bubble. But they avoid targeting sgmates like the plague and those running this particular setup tend to hunt single players in numbers.
Like I said, it all depends on what your objective is. If your goal is to be the number one in BASH, I can see what you're saying kind of. If you simply just don't want to lose, this doesn't exactly apply in every case. You might be surprised at just what is best for protecting the squishy cabin-dwellers from being eaten by zombies.
I think it's more fun to go into something like BASH and still be alive with people glaring at me than to go 10:0 or whatever. Beating everybody up is not always fun for anyone; there's a difference between fear and respect.
I used to think some of my builds weren't good enough in some situations; then later I found out how to use them a lot better.
Actually, there is. Lately I've only fought about one good fighter, and she was melee too. Maybe there were one or two others that I can remember... the rest just do even worse things, shadow strike or whatever power the human gods tell them is cool.
As you know, as long as people are equal, the duel will be drawn out until the timer stops. Then other duelists who are equal to each other can do the same thing, even though they're better (or worse) than the first two.
You did give specifics, but you weren't specific enough. Never said you didn't say anything useful.
heh... Well the funny thing is you haven't even been around lately, at least not when I've been on; I also had links up for a while with videos of myself playing... I currently have to move them elsewhere because youtube was getting on my nerves; also I mentioned enough context clues, including those which relate to stress-testing powers, that could be recalled if your memory is good enough. Yet somehow I'm still "hiding behind anonymity."
You also didn't ask me anything directly, and I thought I'd withhold that information at first so that you'd eventually realize that this isn't all about ego and competition.
I was also waiting until I was done with bloodmoon to make another PFF video; then I had to deal with some other things for a little while.
I just TKO'd somebody who did the same old force geyser/sonic b00m/ebon ruin thing. There's never always one best way to improve every build. On Alert has given me a lot more options and even fixed some of my builds that had some inherent problems. If you feel it limits you, then that's fine with me.
Actually, you've been a lot more humble lately than your friend here. We may not always agree, but that doesn't mean one of us is always 100% wrong. If I think I might be, I'll let you prove it to me, then I'll make sure that the reasons given are the true reasons.
I'd much rather have someone tell me I'm wrong if he's accurate enough than to be "entitled to my own opinion." I didn't feel that this was the case, which was the only reason I persisted with what I was saying. I'd expect you to do the same, and I encourage it, and it would be unreasonable for me not to expect or accept this.
There's nothing inherently egotistical about asking for someone's identity in game and dueling. But for some people, it is about ego, and let's be honest, online competition attracts people who are too competitive.
Only problem I have is when people think they fully understand something and are missing part of the picture. These kind of people will insist they already know without continually checking themselves to see if they're missing something. I also think that several of the people who actually did know what I was talking about were being intellectually dishonest. I won't discuss this here.
We'll all fight soon enough. :P I've already fought you, and I'm well aware your current build wasn't meant for being #1 in pvp, and neither was mine. Hence the stalemate. That's nice that you like to get to know other people and all that, but I'm really not all that interested. Lately I've found that the more people I know the less I want to know, and in general I am disillusioned and disappointed with humanity, myself included. Knowing isn't bad, but quite the opposite, and it's half the battle. You know the rest. ^_~
Before my sgmate terra left, he tore me apart without breaking a sweat time and again as I learned to pvp post alert. Just running the current power staples doesn't mean a thing if you can't use them accordingly.
Being that there is such a small number of regulars left, those that still participate in the hg are all competent. Even the ones that have made my ignore list (and that's quite a few) comprehend how to use their current power selections.
I'm not sure why you're afraid of making your in-game handle public. I've had blatant disagreements with folks on the forums. I don't worry about them harassing me, nor would I harass them.
Also....
How would you know I'm on unless you actively search for me? I hardly ever sit in MC ren cen dueling circles, I'm either in HG, doing an alert, or farming something solo - or sitting in a ph tweaking something.
In other words, somehow I transformed into someone who's not me just because nobody thought it was me. xD
I'm not afraid of you, human. :P So are you confirming what I'm saying about your absence or denying it again?
I was just on yesterday, spending the majority of time in the PH fixing my ATs that had their spec trees broken from the conversion process after going back to silver. I wouldn't call that "absence".
But really, the song and dance is pretty old now. Some of my biggest disagreements are typically between Silverspar and Kai, but we've all seen each other perform in game and know we're all capable players.
Pvpers can easily have differing opinions, as anyone who's observed the CoPvp chat channel could attest.
Alody used to post often and before he made my ignore from constant complaining, I showed him exactly what would happen with a build centered around shadowstrike. If it wasn't me, another regular would.
Not only was I willing to make a point, I was more than able to prove it in actual pvp.
I don't hide. And I've never sat in the stupid ren cen dueling circle, since most of those folks complain about flying or random whatever. Most pvp regulars know this, and we know you aren't one of those said "regulars". Oh feel free to post in my kill counts thread while you're at it if you really think i'm scurred to pvp. I'd say those kill counts state otherwise.
But if you really want, I can come find you. I know who I'm looking for now
to be specific,yesterday i beat the so called PVP god Xeno with a LR build...i guess that is competitive to say the least!
(ofc i don't claim to be better than him,but facts are facts!)
also,i never want to beat people in BASH or in duels if i understand they are not competitive,
i don't use pvp to prove myself or anything of the like
and last but not least...Seck what copy-bilds have you found in SOT?
i mean rly it's just Aphro,Morph,Paranoia and me...and we all use different builds!
haha
Obviously I don't care enough about hero games; that's not some secret that only you and your henchmen can deduce, and I'm not "most folks." You can do whatever you like. One of the reasons I duel sometimes is to kill people who think they know everything. I think of them as super-villains.
I've fought supposed pros who are good at bash but suck at duels. So, pretend I'm from Missouri, broseph! ^_~
Oh you're spear, sorry I tend to mix you in with the DC lot since both groups tend to target the one non sg-member in bash.
Actually, I think I like morph and paranoia - they've never given me reason to put them on ignore.
Bash and dueling have a different dynamic -
in bash you may end up fighting multiple folks at once but also have an entire map to use for evasion
in duels you're limited to the radius of the duel circle, an area much more restrictive in comparison to bash, severely limiting mobility.
Separate from their immaturity, I don't think so. Not based on the replies I've seen. You may not be one of the regulars but you still carry your own sense of elitism.
But you're right, there are very few who know what they're doing, which is why I wanted the OP to have some working knowledge of typical powers he/she will be facing so as to have some direction in learning how to counter.
Ah if I only had henchmen, but I'd have to be eeeebil. On the other hand, I do have friends that I respect and enjoy competing against - but that concept seems too foreign to you to grasp.
It's not that hard to grasp; Paragon has been a lot more humble lately than you have; at least he's willing to respect people whom he doesn't know and he doesn't insult my intelligence. Looks like you might have more to learn from him than you had ever thought much about.
I decided to elaborate on the problems the author of this thread had with his build, in terms of pvp, from my perspective, since you were so vague and it is hard to get more of the context of what you were saying for someone who was just beginning to fight other players.
Don't come to me and tell me I don't know anything about pvp or pve or this power or that part of the game. I enjoy pve and dueling as well as hero games, when people actually go there, that is, and I do quite well wherever I play.
I'm not here to document my wins and losses and test data just so I can get on your approval list.
You can't be humble when you can claim something is cheating when people clearly prove otherwise. Paragon is also the same person who tried to politely get your identity and you flat out ignored.
Oh, he's also the person that was getting upset you were possibly misleading newcomers with misinformation.
You see, right or wrong, I post my views and opinions in clear view for everyone to see. I don't hide behind anonymity because I believe what I write and if I'm convinced I'm wrong I accept it.
I'm not afraid of being harassed or proven wrong. But I believe that's why you avoid the question or merely redirect the conversation.
You know, the sad thing is, it doesn't matter you continue to choose UR is cheating because of its damage output even after I listed several powers that match or exceed that damage output. I'm just annoyed you still continue to post as if you've got some big chip on your shoulder.
I personally can't picture someone who finds UR cheating to be knowledgeable on pvp. Someone who avoids the hero games is automatically going to have a skewed perspective on pvp, as the majority of pvp is not a one on one situation.
I fight with the best CO has to offer, and that competition is what gets me to improve. I've learned a lot since I had my first level 40 inferno dueling sgmates in Super Heroes League. Before I ran freeforms regularly, I had plenty of misconceptions about powers. If you're as knowledgeable as you claim or want people to believe, you wouldn't feel like you were being "oppressed".
I believe I know your handle now, and that's all I need to be content. I may think how you go off is a bit of a joke, but as you feel the need to keep that anonymity, I'm more than happy to respect those wishes.
Also, I really don't care about anonymity, and I am not afraid of all your "intelligence gathering." I've basically spelled out for you that anonymity isn't hiding when my enemy is nowhere to be found anyway. I avoid most of your questions because I get tired of talking to know-it-alls. There's only one person I think was against me specifically, so don't pretend like I see myself as some kind of victim, I know you're just arguing with me because you think I'm wrong.
Unleashed Rage is easy to avoid. Nevertheless, just because a counter exists doesn't mean everything's good. Take Imbue for example....
You can do whatever you like; you don't respect anything else about me anyway. Initially, I thought you were one of the more reasonable/mature people but you've proven me wrong.
I do think you're wrong about some things. But speaking of insanity, me continually thinking you can be convinced of anything that isn't your own opinion would fall under that.
I don't respect you, you're right on that.
When I disagree openly with say Silverspar or Kai, we don't make it personal, we don't think there's some hidden agenda, and if we can't come to a mutual agreement, we agree to disagree. With xaogarrent, I'll clearly state when I agree with him, even if I dislike agreeing with him because its him. I may not like him or his attitude, but if I believe something he believes, I'm not going to discredit him just because I don't like him.
For all I know, you may be a very nice person, but have taken things said on the forum as if they were an affront to your honor. I don't know you, and my only perception of you is what you've said in game and on the forums. To me, reading what you write often gives you less credibility not more. But again, that's MY personal experience.
Just this morning I ended up dueling Mc Luving randomly, first fight he took me out in a few seconds with a critting UR, that I had thought I was out of range of (mistake I still make too often since I hardly fight it anymore). The second fight he continually utilized a double lunge to control me with roots and stuns, smoking me as a last resort. That one went for a few minutes until he caught me in a critting UR with my MD down.
If I were to go with your perspective, I could write off the loss, because "UR is cheating".
But I go with mine.
I've been experimenting with using ego surge as an imbue replacement and it just doesn't compare when also using it for its energy form to reduce the cost without getting a guaranteed FC in the process. I was hoping to avoid swapping FC out as I knew I'd miss the 100ft range, but having a near instant cast burst attack with low cd and much lower energy cost is better off, even at the reduced 50 foot range.
I lost twice, and soundly. More importantly however, there was no gloating, no trash talk, no excuses and a sense of mutual respect. Something pvp in general has been lacking in CO for some time.
People call you out on these forums and constantly refute what you say - if that's not enough to convince you to give your stance a second thought...
It's like shev, just without the broken english, threats of hacking or telling us you'll be uninstalling CO on over a hundred machines.
I aint going to comment on your build but I will say this.
Maybe you might in the back of your mind have this thought "you know i dont care if i win or not".
You might not win at duels because you arnt a 12 year old boy out his face on red bull.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Nothing I've said recently was refuted... I've also pointed out flaws in your arguments and it just flew past your head... or you ignored me. You can't even tell that shev has just been acting just to watch you take it seriously. Funny how nobody says anything to people when they agree with me, but if I say what they said, that automatically means it's wrong.
If you want I can point to several specific examples of statements of yours (or statements you didn't deny) that were either fuzzy logic or completely illogical, but I won't do that in public. :P
Talking is cheap. Some of the people "refuting" me ended up dying more than they should while my health stayed at (or near) 100%... others still get knocked around... but you wouldn't know this because you never watch what happened. Observe me actually playing or keep quiet.
Mr. PvP Ego can't even admit that someone else who escapes his notice knows things about this game without talking to him or copy-building from the forums.
I shouldn't even have to explain such things to someone as old as you are.
People are saying you can knock "intelligently" - and they are correct. If you don't know how, then you are lacking in a basic skill.
Shev acting, I doubt one can be that damaged. The wishing someone's country was bombed, the threats of hacking computers or uninstalling CO... yeah that didn't make people rage, made people wonder how stupid a person could really be.
Feel free to point out stuff in public. From what I can see - people are agreeing with my points of view, not yours.
Dying in an alert is nothing new. I survive as ATs where many people die, but I've done thousands at this point, and had fought all of the bosses before they had an alert (as applicable).
THE IRONY here is you just said nothing you said was refuted - then blatantly stated people refuting you are dying. - So it's gotta be one or the other.
I already know who you are, and it's not a matter of talking or not talking. You obviously have never seen me in disagreement with Kai or Silverspar - we may have opposing viewpoints from time to time but we do accept the fact that each is a capable player with extensive knowledge. What sets you apart from them is you have frequently said things that a majority of the populace will disagree with you on, myself included. Anytime someone shows an opposing view, you don't use reason to back your stance, it quickly resorts to insults, or personal attacks or some distraction from the actual matter at hand. Just like how this has nothing to do with the OP.
I feel bad for the OP - taking this little meaningless feud here does him no good. Though I'm pretty sure he learned to stop paying attention right quick.
If I was going to present my own opinion, we're facing systemic flaws at this point that would be very difficult to fix. PCs who push the envelope are capable of so much offense that they can nuke you in a few short seconds. Mind you, PCs are also capable of healing to near full in that window of time too, even leaving out devices. Some very dedicated people have figured out how to do both. I am not completely certain that rebalancing PvP to where duels will see a lot of variety among freeforms is possible, as it would (IMO) involve rebalancing every power in the game from scratch, taking spec trees into account. Before On Alert, there were already a huge number of pieces that the playerbase can sort into useless and overpowered within days or weeks of a patch. Any flaws were quickly discovered and put into use. After On Alert the number of potential pieces has only increased, meaning that devs with limited time can only look at so many, but the players, who have comparatively unlimited time, can sort through them all. Adjusting a single power or spec tree combination is close to meaningless without putting it into context with other powers/combos used for the same situation. Well, unless you're comparing Unleashed Rage to Planar Fracture or Fury of the Dragon or the other so-called "ultimate" powers that aren't worth the power pick.
I've seen people who are good at things like bash and duels but suck at zombie apocalypse. It all depends on where one spends his time and one's ability to adapt. I don't know what PC stands for in this context, but game companies need to spend time actually playing their games so they can understand them and see what's wrong with them instead of taking misleading advice from people who seem to be one of their competitors and making changes that aren't supported by enough data to show that it will be good enough.