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foxyperson
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From what I've gathered, the main reason why we're not getting The Foundry is because "it's too expensive to implement."
What if we gave Cryptic the money?
I'm sure if Cryptic gave donors incentives ranging from "your money's worth in Story Slots" (?, I'm not sure how the Foundry works regarding storage) to "Lifetime Subscription" and perhaps more things, there would be many of us willing to fund the project.
The technology is already there, and from what I've heard, the three games already share the same codebase, so what else is required other than the money to assign people to actually do it? Also, this would be far from the first similar KS. People organized a KS to give EA money to change ME 3's ending before EA decided to do it themselves, and White Wolf has organized in the past a KS to fund one of their books.
So, exactly how much is "too expensive"? Think of the long-term benefits, think of all the ex-CoH users who are already used to having a mission editor... and think it won't even cost you money.
How much?
What if we gave Cryptic the money?
I'm sure if Cryptic gave donors incentives ranging from "your money's worth in Story Slots" (?, I'm not sure how the Foundry works regarding storage) to "Lifetime Subscription" and perhaps more things, there would be many of us willing to fund the project.
The technology is already there, and from what I've heard, the three games already share the same codebase, so what else is required other than the money to assign people to actually do it? Also, this would be far from the first similar KS. People organized a KS to give EA money to change ME 3's ending before EA decided to do it themselves, and White Wolf has organized in the past a KS to fund one of their books.
So, exactly how much is "too expensive"? Think of the long-term benefits, think of all the ex-CoH users who are already used to having a mission editor... and think it won't even cost you money.
How much?
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Also, there better be some awesome incentives. :P
We cannot give Cryptic money, as they are not the ones handling the finances of the company. That would be PWE.
And if we give PWE our money, you can bet they will use it for something else. :rolleyes:
That's why it has to be them starting the KS, not us. Also, the KS for White Wolf's V20 Companion was started by White Wolf, not CCP (even if it's CCP who decides what WW can and cannot do).
If they get the money and use it for something else, then they would be guilty of fraud, which would cost them more money than they got.
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...Wait, that's not reinforcement at all. That actually encourages them not to give us the Foundry since we give them money.
Okay. How about this. We DON'T purchase anything until some kind of Foundry exists, and then...
No. That's bad. Then they go bankrupt and it's game over, man. GAME OVER!
What if we gave Cryptic the money?
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First off:
What a terribly s****d idea!
Did you even realize that we ALREADY DO THAT?!
We are paying costumers.
I'm a Gold player, so no one can force that "it's free 2 play argument" on me.
And F2p is getting the company a lotta money.
If it wouldn't, they wouldn't make games F2p.
(The games that refuse to go F2p are the ones that are dying losing ground on the market atm)
We are the costumers, we consume what they develop and give feedback, criticism and wishes.
If they don't listen to that, we stop consuming their stuff and they lose money.
That's the way it works.
And not every CO gamer is desperately waiting for a Foundry, at least not me!
I've seen it in CoH and most of the created content was crap.
And the same is true for STO.
You have to go through tons of crap homebrewed nonesense to get a shinning pearl of an adventure every now and than.
IMO this isn't worth much.
I'm a longtime RPG Gamemaster myself and of course I created content myself in CoH -and I think I did pretty good at it- but honestly, I don't think it get much attention, cause it got lost among a lot of trash.
And some foundrysystems even want me to PAY for it(?!)
I should PAY for creating exra content for the game I'm playing (and paying already)?
No way.
but if and when it happened i can't say, but the way this game is getting closer and closer to the bottom of the bowl, i really think they should just pull the plug and let this game die, since they seem to have no intention of making it better
The Nemesis system needs fixing and here's ideas:
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Might make a huge post of what I would like the Foundry to have.
Your whole post reads like you'd be forced to pay for this content. It's a bad idea because you already pay for the game? What if you didn't participate in the Kickstarter, but despite your lack of funding, we still got the Foundry? Still a bad idea?
Personally, I'd drop few couple hundreds on this Kickstarter.
I'll let you do the rest of the math.
In STO, Silver players can by Foundry slots a la carte. I'd expect the same model here.
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I have to say I prefer this idea and would spend money on this more than on anything else like vehicles and lock boxes.
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for the foundry,
for the moon zone,
for any other new zone,
for an expansion of the nemesis system,
for a nemesis themed adventure that allowd us to flesh out our heroes, make chocies that determine the missions, has custom loved-one npcs we get to design in the character creator and makes our battle with the nemesis the focus of the story (and for teams splits this content between players in the team with focus on the team leader and their nemesis)
for a deal with a 3d printing company so we could have action figures/statues/heroclix-or-equivalent of our own heroes
For any other things that increase immersive gameplay rather than repetition (like random-variable missions)
While she has been rescued
what diabolical mastermind
was behind the devious brain-napping of
the Volterrific Dr Cerebellum?
With the right incentives, I'd drop a coupe hundreds too!
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But you know there will ALWAYS be that one idiot who makes a Foundry so strong he can just sit back and go "trololololol" all day, or make it so easy that only them and their friends will level like no tomorrow, then Cryptic will have to take it out and make us all angry, which would suck
I seen it on CoH, was HORRID.
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It was. But looking at what's been done for NWO, it shouldn't be possible to duplicate it to that extent, if we ever get it.
They didn't have to remove it from STO, they won't remove it from NWO, and if they implement it here, it will work as well.
And they didn't remove it from CoH either.
There will always be people who will try to ruin everything for everyone else, but that can't keep you from moving forward or we'd never do anything.
We already have people willing to get in the KS, should Cryptic decide to start it... once we get to the point that we offer to pay for it ourselves, I don't see many reasons why not do it.
AE was a thing of wonder... but then that was one of the reasons why the game reached such a stage of complexity that the devs used to say that tinkering with CoH's code was like playing Jenga on fire.
I don't expect anything too grand. Just let me script the mission dialogues, let me select mission maps and villain factions, and let me include any of my nemesii in it (they don't have to give Q on defeat either), and that will keep me hooked forever.
game that allows for user submitted content in common 3D formats
using thousands of cheap and readily available motion capture animation files built on a free
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You put fish net stockings and skull bras on the dudes from Tribes and you
basically have Champions power armor PVP in the valley of the dolls.
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This stance is reasonable. With today's production costs, churning out new monthly content to keep users engaged costs more than they get from users, be it $15 a month or with micro-transactions. But then games with relatively minimal content like EVE or Minecraft are still doing fine. The difference is the options they have to allow players to build and interact with each other.
So... please?
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If the money is diverted to NWO, then how will they fulfill the promised rewards for the Kickstarter? If I back it for $10 and expect to get four Foundry slots when it launches, there had darn well better be four Foundry slots within a reasonable time after the fulfillment. To take money and not deliver product is very bad business.
(Take a look at the Kickstarter for my next novels to see what Kickstarter rewards look like.)
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They will instantly forget the released Neverwinter and move on to the next game.
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As much as i want it, the Foundry will never come here, because it is something we want. I dont buy for a second that it is too exspensive to put in, it is in STO and NW, which use the same system as CO, they are too lazy and dont care about CO to do it.
I think I'll do just that.
Again.
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