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greyprime
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Hello, I just bought a FreeForm character slot and I was wondering if anyone could help me build a Glacier/Void freeform character (if such a thing is possible). My thoughts on the combo was that freezing and scaring the rectum discharge out of mobs was a good thing and might help this character become the ultimate tank.
If such a combination isn't possible, my next idea is to have either a Glacier/Specialist or Glacier/Devastator. I suppose Glacier/Mystic Power Set (any magic that summons creatures to feed on my opponents' throbbing bodies will do) is an option of the last resort.
Anyway, if anyone can provide some form of a power guide relating to the mentioned builds that I can follow, I would be very grateful and I will give you 12 Internet Cookies as compensation.
If such a combination isn't possible, my next idea is to have either a Glacier/Specialist or Glacier/Devastator. I suppose Glacier/Mystic Power Set (any magic that summons creatures to feed on my opponents' throbbing bodies will do) is an option of the last resort.
Anyway, if anyone can provide some form of a power guide relating to the mentioned builds that I can follow, I would be very grateful and I will give you 12 Internet Cookies as compensation.
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Also, the sub-section Builds and Roles within this section is good for build crafting and examples.
Sorry I'm not much help here.
-r0y
As you recommended, I decided to use the PowerHouse planner and the results look like this:
PowerHouse (Link to this build)
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6:
Level 10:
Level 15:
Talents:
Level 1:
Level 6:
Level 9:
Level 12:
Level 15:
Level 18:
Level 21:
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
Level 8: Lifedrain (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Shadow Embrace (Fatal Allure, Challenging Strikes)
Level 14: Ice Blast (Hard Frost)
Level 17: Ice Shield (Rank 2, Frigid Air)
Level 20: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 23: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 26: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Level 29: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 32: Implosion Engine
Level 35: Ice Burst
Level 38: Lightning Reflexes (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight (Rank 2)
Level 35: Acrobatics (Versatility)
Specializations:
Yeah, it's missing a few things, but at least it's a start. I would appreciate any feedback on this Freeform outline.
Lightning Reflexes is not a strong passive as far as defensive goes. Most take Invulnerability or Defiance, I prefer Regeneration. There's also Personal Force Field, which isn't the best for a tanking type, IMO. For leveling up, Regeneration is really strong. Heck, I've tanked Gravitar with my regen tank.
Since you have FOUR maintains in your build, you might want to consider Overdrive as your energy unlock, instead of Spirit Reverberation. Also, you definately want to Secondary-Super-Stat RECOVERY. I'd say Ego / Con / Rec for this build, and gear/talent Dexterity.
Playing around in the PowerHouse, I came up with something like THIS - though, the specialization trees can be whatever you like, I just threw those in. Should be a decent tank/hybrid. I'm not terribly fond of ranged tanks, which is probably why I never did a "glacier AT" style toon, I'm more of a melee guy when tanking.
I did not include a FORM - as I do not know if Concentration (which is the defacto for most ranged builds) helps with things like Avalanche and Snow Storm. Otherwise, I'd put that in somewhere. Ice form is probably not as helpful, but it might be. This is the tricky part with Freeform builds, mixing and matching, then finding synergy in forms and passives...
Anyway, hopefully this will spark a discussion from those who know more about ranged tanks than I.
-r0y
A part of me is almost regretting buying a Freeform Slot after spending over an hour on the PowerHouse planner. The mixing and matching of powers to find a balance is giving me a headache lol.
Anyway, here's the newest outline:
PowerHouse (Link to this build)
Name:
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
Level 10: Presence (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Scourge
Level 6: Shrug It Off
Level 9: Quick Recovery
Level 12: Lasting Impression
Level 15: Boundless Reserves
Level 18: Prodigy
Level 21: Amazing Stamina
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ice Blast (Hard Frost)
Level 8: Ice Shield (Rank 2, Frigid Air)
Level 11: Frost Breath (Frost Bite, Challenging Strikes)
Level 14: Lifedrain (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 20: Lightning Reflexes (Rank 2)
Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 26: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 29: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 32: Ice Burst
Level 35: Overdrive
Level 38: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics (Versatility)
Specializations:
Constitution: Unyielding (2/2)
Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
Constitution: Quick Healing (3/3)
Constitution: Armored (2/2)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Elusive (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)
The only reason I had Lightning Reflex was that I saw a YT vid of a Lightning Reflex/Bountiful chi (with adv) combo and it looked very tank-friendly.
As for the lack of offensive capabilities on the specializations, I decided to provide that through gear and such.
Thanks again for your replies and advice, and here are the 12 Internet Cookies as promised!
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There are still some pretty significant errors with the build (i.e. always rank your passive to R3, take a form, etc). I'd probably not SS con, as gear can easily provide this...
Did you want to Range Tank or Range Damage as far as roles go? PRE should not be SS'd with this build, it's not worth the sacrifice just to get Life Drain boosted. All ranged heroes should have Ego and/or Dex in there (a critical life drain heal is better than a pre-boosted non-crit heal, in general).
As I mentioned earlier, I made this build for you to look at. You might see something you may have missed? (if you go regen, you'll probably not need lifedrain at all).
And if you MUST ss CON, then definately, regeneration is the passive for you! And resurgence is your heal.
-r0y
Name: Ranged Tank
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Scourge
Level 6: Field Ops Training
Level 9: Martial Training
Level 12: Survival Training
Level 15: Shooter
Level 18: Acrobat
Level 21: Wordly
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ebon Void (Voracious Darkness)
Level 8: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Shadow Embrace (Fatal Allure, Challenging Strikes)
Level 17: Overdrive
Level 20: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 23: Lifedrain (Rank 2, Vampiric Sympathy)
Level 26: Summon Shadows (Devouring Darkness)
Level 29: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 38: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics (Versatility)
Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (1/3)
Ego: Aggression (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
I made a few modifications to your proposed build.
Void Shift, Snow Storm, and Avalanche will be used for mob sweeping, while Shadow Embrace and Lifedrain will keep the boss on me. As for the gear, I'll see If I can add some Pre mods so Lifedrain can do some serious damage (ie. just spam lifedrain on a boss for a minute to win).
Since I like using Lifedrain so much, if my modification is a fail, maybe you could just direct me to a Void Build that has an emphasis on Lifedrain usage.
Thanks again for your help.
Spirit Reverberation is the unlock that most suits your build, it triggers from attacking a feared enemy with dimensional damage and scales to con but will not do anything for avalanche and snow storm.
Shadow Embrace is an AOE attack just like Avalanche, the difference is it can be used on the move which if you're a squishy trying to hit and run is great. I'm not sure it's much use to this build.
All tanks have Crippling Challenge for single targets, Devour Essence from the infernal supernatural tree is kinda the ultimate CC power. It's a maintain, heals you, hurts the foe can be fired on the move and can have crip challenge... I hate that it's the best tanking power in the game. It will certainly fit the darkness sorta theme try swapping Lifedrain for this.
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Molecular Self Assembly is the standard cure all for energy unlocks - it scales off Int and Rec check the numbers on the tooltip especially if you do get rid of Shadow Embrace.
If it was me trying to do this I would go for Infernal and Ice they do the same kind of damage and are a bit easier to fold together. The Darkness aspect would be kind of catered for.
It would have
Devour Essence w crippling challenge - very evil sort of attack you suck the life out of em
Avalanche w challenging strikes
Defile for heavy STA at long range
Summon Shadows is good and thematic providing you got a bit of time to prepare before everyone lunges in.
Try to fit Masterful dodge in there as it is the best kind of Active Defence
Try to minimise the amount of attacks you have - if you have more than 4 plus energy builder that's usually too many.
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Profound quote.. "I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing."
Name: Ranged Tank
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Scourge
Level 6: Field Ops Training
Level 9: Martial Training
Level 12: Survival Training
Level 15: Shooter
Level 18: Acrobat
Level 21: Wordly
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ebon Void (Voracious Darkness)
Level 8: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Epidemic (Outbreak)
Level 17: Spirit Reverberation
Level 20: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 23: Devour Essence (Phlebotomist, Crippling Challenge)
Level 26: Summon Shadows (Devouring Darkness)
Level 29: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 38: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics
Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (1/3)
Ego: Aggression (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
Ok, now this is starting to look like an AoE tank, lol.
I miss Lifedrain, but I'll give Devour Essence a try. I'm guessing that DE scales off of Pre, so I'll still add some Pre mods to my gear (which were supposed to boost lifedrain).
Thanks for your help.
Please check the numbers on different Energy unlocks carefully and the tooltips on what they do.
Good luck with your FF build and for what it's worth I have personally deleted 3 x level 40s on the grounds that they were beyond saving.
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The one who can't shut up formerly known as 4rksakes
About the @handle - it's a long story.
Profound quote.. "I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing."
Name: Ranged Tank
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Scourge
Level 6: Field Ops Training
Level 9: Martial Training
Level 12: Survival Training
Level 15: Shooter
Level 18: Acrobat
Level 21: Wordly
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ebon Void (Voracious Darkness)
Level 8: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Spirit Reverberation
Level 17: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 20: Devour Essence (Phlebotomist, Crippling Challenge)
Level 23: Summon Shadows (Devouring Darkness)
Level 26: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 35: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Level 38: Defile (Plague Bearer)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics
Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (1/3)
Ego: Aggression (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
The only reason I added Epidemic was to be able to use Devour Essence's adv. Hopefully, Defile and its adv will produce the same effect to aid Devour Essence.
As you level up try things out as you go and especially with Avalanche see what it's doing to your energy.
Providing you can get close Devour Essence can only be out aggro'd by another higher rank devour essence. With this in hand you that is you will be able to get all the aggro of say for example a level 60 mega destroid. It's at times like that you start saying "Did I really want this?"
Avalanche is very nice on damage and an excellent CS candidate.
It sure would be easier if you only wanted a nice concept build, making it a functional tank as well does require a bit of concept sacrifice.
Unnecessary coz you knew already link
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The one who can't shut up formerly known as 4rksakes
About the @handle - it's a long story.
Profound quote.. "I'm not a complete idiot - several parts are missing."
Name: AoE Tank
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Scourge
Level 6: Ascetic
Level 9: Lasting Impression
Level 12: Shrug It Off
Level 15: Quick Recovery
Level 18: Showmanship
Level 21: Wordly
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ebon Void (Voracious Darkness)
Level 8: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 17: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 20: Devour Essence (Phlebotomist, Crippling Challenge)
Level 23: Rebirth
Level 26: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 35: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Level 38: Defile (Plague Bearer)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics (Versatility)
Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (1/3)
Ego: Aggression (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
One word - wow.
Tried this final draft (hope so, the modifications really burn through my time) on Battle Station [Purple Gang, team 3, hard] and I'm impressed.
I start things off with full Defile on middle man in mob, pop Void Shift, then Snow Storm/Avalanche (or Devour Essence for 1 opponent) and the mobs are gone.
I should also mention that I had no gear when running this through the Battle Station.
Added some Pre in talents so Devour Essence would pack more healing.
I pop Bountiful Chi once in a while, but as I got used to this build, I kinda ignored/forgot about the 3 active heals.
Tell me what you think about this build. Try it yourself on the test server if you're gold.
Name: AoE Tank
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Scourge
Level 6: Healthy Mind
Level 9: Boundless Reserves
Level 12: Amazing Stamina
Level 15: Daredevil
Level 18: Negotiator
Level 21: Academics
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ebon Void (Voracious Darkness)
Level 8: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Overdrive
Level 17: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 20: Devour Essence (Phlebotomist, Crippling Challenge)
Level 23: Rebirth
Level 26: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 35: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Level 38: Defile (Plague Bearer)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics (Versatility)
Specializations:
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (1/3)
Ego: Aggression (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
An update to my build is that Overdrive actually works better than Molecular Self-assembly (saw it in action in the training center).
I could use some advice on the talents section: Should I focus on the SS talents, spread the talents for Pre (to benefit Devour Essence), or spread the talents to cover Int and End?
By the way, this build is a textbook definition of a gas-guzzler, Overdrive can barely keep up. I'll have to add some serious Rec and End mods to my gear so I'll have a large pool of energy ready to use and more energy when Energy Builder kicks in.
So far, my favorite tactic to start off a one-on-one is to Void Shift, pop Defile, and suck away with Devouring essence.
Name: AoE Tank
Archetype: Freeform
Super Stats:
Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
Talents:
Level 1: The Void
Level 6: Field Ops Training
Level 9: Boundless Reserves
Level 12: Amazing Stamina
Level 15: Investigator
Level 18: Quick Recovery
Level 21: Healthy Mind
Powers:
Level 1: Shadow Bolt (Despondency, Accelerated Metabolism)
Level 1: Void Shift (Emerging Nightmares)
Level 6: Ebon Void (Voracious Darkness)
Level 8: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Overdrive
Level 14: Snow Storm (Eye of the Storm)
Level 17: Devour Essence (Phlebotomist, Crippling Challenge)
Level 20: Rebirth
Level 23: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
Level 32: Unbreakable (Rank 2)
Level 35: Defile (Plague Bearer)
Level 38: Inertial Dampening Field (Rank 2)
Travel Powers:
Level 6: Rainbow Flight
Level 35: Acrobatics
Specializations:
Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
Constitution: Tough (2/3)
Constitution: Quick Healing (3/3)
Constitution: Armored (2/2)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Reactive Strikes (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)
I do believe that this is the build I'm going for.
I swapped Concentration for IDF (among other things) because I want this character to be a tank that focuses on being invincible while still being able to kill if it has to. DPS is probably low, but that's why there's DPS players. Let them deal with the damage-dealing.
I have to say that it's really fun to Void Shift, tap Defile and suck away with Devour Essence, and if it's still alive, spam Avalanche and Snow Storm to deal with it and anything unfortunate to be around it.
With these modifications, Overdrive works just fine and I have an easier time to deal with the mobs in the Battle Station. As I said earlier, I had no gear on when testing this build out and it was doing just fine. I think I'll leave the powerhouse now to buy gear and test it on Alerts.
Fire, Ice, and Poison all benefit from the same passive
Ego, Darkness, and that healing spec forget name now go together...
You could go poison (Infernal Supernatural) and Glacier combined gives you option to get regen... also howl gives you a debuff that fears opponents also, you just have to read thoroughly through different powers and their advantages