Help with Heavy Weapons Build

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• lukasthedead Posts: 14 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  To answer your questions in no order.
  
  Dex, Rec, End, and Int are all good and logical choices. Dex will increase your damage a little thanks to more Crits. Rec will let you lead off with bigger attacks and recover energy faster. End will let you store up more energy so you don't need to recharge as often, and Int would decrease the power cost of your powers and decrease refresh timers. I often go with Int when I'm not sure, but End is a popular choice for Tanks. Another possibility is Pre, as a tank self healing is important and it has a synergy with fire powers and affects threat generation.
  
  As for your primary, I think you might be happier with Con up front rather than Strength.
  
  Annihilation isn't a bad choice, it does a good amount of damage to a single target. I'm not sure what you mean by a "chase stuff around power", but since it's not an AoE, I'd guess no?
  
  Champions is almost always solo or small teams. The massive battles aren't the norm, and you won't ever need an entire guild to do any of the big missions. You look to be making a tank, and so I'd suggest a few changes.
  
  You likely have too many attacks, in general you need one main single target, one main AoE, and then you add in other attacks when they have a secondary effect you need. Also, you're lacking any active defense powers, which are very important to anyone who will be tanking.
  
  In addition you are missing two critical advantages if you are going to tank: Crippling Challenge and Challenging Strikes. To tank you have to be able to pull aggro off the DPSers and there are some over-the-top DPS builds out there. Crippling Challenge will force your target to target you (so having it on a power you can spam is important) and Challenging Strikes is the AoE threat generator.
  
  Here is the link to my edit of the build, hopefully you find some suggestions you can use:
  http://powerhouse.nullware.com/powerhouse.html?v=5&n=Nemesister&d=1316NDAOQZFC3B0G008G20CG7009B03G803GC00GE0L9D09J5032800QG05J600DB009K041Mtx0tak3bIm
  
  The big issue with the build I'm suggesting is it doesn't have a true AoE power till level 17, so picking up Magma Burst will be important.
  
  I have given the build Pre as a secondary stat because it scales up the energy return for Thermal Reverberation. I've given it Thermal Reverberation because you had Eruption with Magma Burst and Brimstone with Aftershock. So, you'll be setting lots of things on fire, and you can use that to generate energy. In addition Pre will increase your threat generation and provide you a boost to your self healing.
  
  Resurgence will be an important power as you have Con and it is the big uber self heal. Conviction tends to heal more than BCR, but it can be swap back to that if Conviction is too distracting since it has to be constantly clicked.
  
  I think that covers a lot, be sure to keep posting and asking questions, as only you can stop bad alert run! :biggrin:

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• sturmwolf65 Posts: 66 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  lukasthedead wrote: »

  In addition Pre will increase your threat generation and provide you a boost to your self healing.

  
  I think some of your suggestions are a bit outdated.
  PRE does not increase threat anymore.

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• s3rju Posts: 268 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  and you'll be right by saying so.
  
  what's the point of imbue here? I just don't see it(yes I know it works with charges)

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• lukasthedead Posts: 14 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  Could be . ..yep, nix the threat stuff with Pre, but I assume healing and energy return for Thermal Reverberation still scale with it?
  
  I assume Imbue is to get a bit more damage as long as it still scales with Con. I mean, a tank isn't ever going to out DPS any well done offensive build, but for soloing it's not a bad choice and even in a group it will provide a little more. You could do worst.

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• rhymere

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  Posts: 486 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  So far this is what I am using and it's taking out trash mobs in one or two swings:
  
  http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=146314

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• drreverend Posts: 534 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  s3rju wrote: »

  and you'll be right by saying so.
  
  what's the point of imbue here? I just don't see it(yes I know it works with charges)

  
  A guaranteed crit where my already very high Con boosts it's Severity? That's the idea anyways.
  
  The reason I'd grown annoyed with Annihilation was because I'm level 18 right now, and it's my main single target attack... except when I use it, the knockback is so ridiculous that the guy I hit often ends up 2 mobs over.
  
  Earth Splitter is mainly for concept reasons (i.e. because it's cool ).
  
  I went with Protector Mastery in the new build because I figured that the Mastery's instant recharge of my defensive powers would really help with survival.
  
  Here's the new build:
  
  PowerHouse (Link to this build)
  
  Name: Nemesister
  
  Archetype: Freeform
  
  Super Stats:
  Level 6: Strength (Primary)
  Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
  Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)
  
  Talents:
  Level 1: The Devastator
  Level 6: Physical Conditioning
  Level 9: Quick Recovery
  Level 12: Relentless
  Level 15: Amazing Stamina
  Level 18: Boundless Reserves
  Level 21: Bodybuilder
  
  Powers:
  Level 1: Bludgeon
  Level 1: Cleave (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
  Level 6: Eruption (Magma Burst, Crippling Challenge)
  Level 8: Invulnerability (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Laser Knight)
  Level 14: Skewer (Rank 2, Rank 3, Follow Through)
  Level 17: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Enrage
  Level 23: Brimstone (Rank 2, Aftershock)
  Level 26: Molecular Self-Assembly
  Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2)
  Level 32: Earth Splitter
  Level 35: Aggressor
  Level 38: Unbreakable
  
  Travel Powers:
  Level 6: Rocket Jump (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 35: Jet Boots
  
  Specializations:
  Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
  Strength: Quick Recovery (2/2)
  Strength: Aggression (2/2)
  Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
  Protector: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Protector: Unrelenting (2/2)
  Protector: Bulwark (2/2)
  Protector: Defensive Expertise (3/3)
  Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Warden: Elusive (2/2)
  Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
  Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
  Mastery: Protector Mastery (1/1)

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• somebob Posts: 982 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  lukasthedead wrote: »

  Could be . ..yep, nix the threat stuff with Pre, but I assume healing and energy return for Thermal Reverberation still scale with it?

  
  No, that was changed too. Primary return is End, secondary is Rec.

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• drreverend Posts: 534 Arc User

  October 2012 edited October 2012

  After some more tinkering, came up with this. I had to drop Earth Splitter, sadly. Not sure what I can drop to replace that with, because I kinda wanted to smash people at range by smashing the ground. Oh wells. I'll have to settle for bashing their faces in.
  
  PowerHouse (Link to this build)
  
  Name: Nemesister
  
  Archetype: Freeform
  
  Super Stats:
  Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
  Level 10: Strength (Secondary)
  Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)
  
  Talents:
  Level 1: The Master
  Level 6: Martial Focus
  Level 9: Physical Conditioning
  Level 12: Acrobat
  Level 15: Accurate
  Level 18: Relentless
  Level 21: Covert Ops Training
  
  Powers:
  Level 1: Bludgeon
  Level 1: Eruption (Magma Burst, Crippling Challenge)
  Level 6: Decimate (Nailed to the Ground)
  Level 8: Invulnerability (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Laser Knight)
  Level 14: Annihilate (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 17: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Enrage
  Level 23: Skewer (Rank 2, Rank 3, Follow Through)
  Level 26: Brimstone (Rank 2, Aftershock, Challenging Strikes)
  Level 29: Molecular Self-Assembly
  Level 32: Masterful Dodge
  Level 35: Aggressor
  Level 38: Resurgence
  
  Travel Powers:
  Level 6: Rocket Jump (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 35: Jet Boots
  
  Specializations:
  Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
  Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
  Constitution: Deflection (3/3)
  Constitution: Armored (2/2)
  Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
  Warden: Tenacious (2/2)
  Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
  Protector: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Protector: Bulwark (2/2)
  Protector: Defensive Expertise (3/3)
  Protector: Resolute (2/3)
  Mastery: Protector Mastery (1/1)

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