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foxyperson
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We have Earth, Wind, Fire, but not water.
How hard would it be adding splashing effects to a variation of the Wind powerset?
How hard would it be adding splashing effects to a variation of the Wind powerset?
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And we don't really want another effect variation of Wind.
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Well, Water powers would deal Crushing Damage and Repel and Knock the target, because that's how water works. However, it also does something Force and Wind don't: It makes things wet. That could be the base for a debuff mechanic.
(Disclaimer: This is a joke and in no way to be taken seriously)
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Water, as a set, has potential to be pretty unique. Additionally, having it would basically finish up the elemental sets overall(unless you consider 'plants' an element I suppose). It can also synergize well with some other sets such as Ice or Electricity.
If I were to design a Water set, I think it would have a focus on being a ranged DPS set at it's core, but the secondary effects would be mostly either debuffing enemies or making them more vulnerable to other attack types. Get someone wet and they're going to be more vulnerable to Electricity or Ice, maybe a bit slower. Water might short-circuit some armor or shields if they're technological in nature, stun robotic enemies, or weaken fire attacks from enemies who are soggy. There's a lot it could potentially do.
And then if you start pulling inspiration from sources beyond comics, like The Last Airbender, there's lots of very creative water control abilities in there. Some are more defensive, deflecting blows and moving with the flow of the water. Some are more offensive, melee-type stuff, like lashing tentacles made of water. And of course there's some utility stuff like healing. Or control stuff. Like the ever-creepy blood-controlling power. (which uh, might not be that good a choice tonally for CO really, but worth mentioning)
I don't know what powersets are being worked on right now, if any, and what ones are planned or a priority in some way, but I hope Water is among them. And something we might see sooner rather than later.
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Would Ice and Water compliment each other?
And what about scalding steam (or even just fog), that's a form of water right? Could Water be the "Steam-punk" Energy Projector power?
In a past suggestion, I thought about the "Soaked" debuff from water attacks as making the affected target more vulnerable to certain other damage types, mostly Cold and Electric.
And here comes the enevitable "But there will be clones!" counter argument. :rolleyes:
Seriously, why are you saying that? Do you think a bunch of idiots with no imagination and no respect for game rules and copyright should matter that much? Do you really think just because people will make clone characters and give them those powers should be a reason why no one should have them?!
I will tell what would be if Cryptic would think this way: There would be no powers at all!
And on a sidenote: You really can't make a convincing Aang in CO. Once someone requested a costume based on his from me, and I couldn't get it right.
That makes sense.
Something you said earlier about the flow of water makes me think it could have an Active Defense that provides some additional dodge/avoidance. Maybe an Active Defense that can be cast on a team-mate.
Some attacks might actually cancel Clinging Flames if the target already has that on it.
Soaked can't be consumed, like Negative Ions, unless some power evaporates it.
How will Soaked trigger an Energy Unlock?
How about a Water pet? A temp pet like a water squid that Repels mobs away from the hero.
Yes to all! \o/
Super Soaker ^_~
I thought about a Water Elemental (similar to the Air Elemental, but with sharks asalternate skins) and Water Tentacles (Ancient Tentacles with a water skin and without spines).
Maybe I should re-post my whole concept...
I made it similar to Force and Wind, yet a little different.
I imagine Water to be a "Bard" power set. It can do damage, but its main potential lies in debuffing enemies and thereby aiding team partners. However, these are required to use their powers stragegically to make the most effective use of the Soaking effect.
Recommended Characteristics: Ego, Endurance, Recovery
Starting Innate Characteristic: Needs new one
Suggested Skill: Mysticism
Main Damage Type: Crushing Damage
Main Mechanics: Soaked, Knocks
Soaked
+ Soaked doesn't stack, but every additional application refreshes the duration by a few seconds.
+ Slows the target down, about half as much as Chilled.
+ Soaked targets become more vulnerable to Knock effects, but are still affected by Knock Resistance as usual.
+ Being wet to the skin makes the targets more vulnerable to Electric and Cold damage.
+ Soaked targets are more likely to have Electricity attacks arcing over to them.
+ Soaked targets are easily trapped in an Ice Cage by Ice Attacks, just as if they were already Chilled.
+ Water powers (both attacks and support) have a chance to end the Clinging Flames debuff imediatelly. Applying the Soaked debuff to a target currently affected by Clinging Flames will consume the Clinging Flames debuff in a burst of Fire damage.
Animation: Soaked has the affected target dripping with water, as if it just came out of an in-game water body.
Powers
Water Bolts (Energy Builder)
Animation: Similar to Force Bolts. Makes a splash effect on impact.
Type: Single Target Ranged
Method: Click
Range: 50 ft range
Click
+ Deals Crushing Damage to target.
+ Generates energy.
+ Every shot has a chance to apply Soaked. (It's water, after all. You get hit, you get wet!)
Advantages:
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Hard Splash (2 AP): The initial attack has now a 30% (50% if the target is Soaked) to Knock Down the Target. All following attacks have a 10% chance (17% if the target is Soaked).
Splash (Tier 0)
Animation: Shoots a ball of water at your target.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Tap, Charge
Range: 100 ft range, 5 ft sphere
Tap
+ Deals Crushing Damage to the initial target, and less damage to foes near that target.
+ Chance to apply Soaked to all affected targets.
+ Chance to Knock Down the initial target.
Charge
+ Increases damage, Knock chance and energy cost of the Tap effect.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Crippling Challenge (3 AP)
High Preasure (1 AP): Fully charging this attack will now Knock Back the initial target.
Spit Water (Tier 1)
Animation: A breath attack, like Fire, Frost, Wind and Venomous Breath.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Maintain
Range: 50 ft range, 45 degree cone, 5 targets max
+ Deals Crushing Damage to any targets in the cone.
+ Chance to apply Soaked to all affected targets every period.
+ Repels targets.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Challenging Strikes (2 AP)
Hard Splash (2 AP): Increases the chance to apply Soaked from 10% to 20%. Also guarantees the application of Soaked to all targets when it is fully maintained.
Hard Rain (Tier 1)
Animation: Reskinned Conflagration. Does relatively low damage.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Maintain
Range: 100 ft range, 15 foot sphere, 5 targets max
+ Deals Crushing Damage to all affected targets.
+ Damage increases each period.
+ Chance to apply Soaked to all affected targets every period. Guaranteed if fully maintained.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Nailed to the Ground (2 AP)
Rain of Jinx (2 AP): With this advantage, your Hard Rain tracks your target's every move as long as you maintain it.
Stream Cannon (Tier 1)
Animation: Shoots a water beam at your target. Looks similar to Plasma Beam, but works more like Concussor Beam.
Type: Single Target Ranged
Method: Maintain
Range: 100 ft range
+ Deals Crushing Damage.
+ Damage increases each period.
+ Chance to apply Soaked every period.
+ Repels the target.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Nailed to the Ground (2 AP)
Crippling Challenge (3 AP)
Water Bomb (Tier 1)
Animation: Uses the animation of Hurl and a projectile similar to those used by PSI Neophytes.
Type: Single Target Ranged
Method: Tap
Range: 100 ft range
+ Single target Crushing Damage.
+ Soakes the target.
+ Has a chance to Knock Down the target (30%, 100% if the target is Soaked).
- 3 sec Recharge
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Nailed to the Ground (2 AP)
Crippling Challenge (3 AP)
Big Splash (2 AP): Causes your Water Bomb attack to damage and Soak (but not Knock!) additional targets around your primary target. 10 foot sphere, 5 targets max.
Liquid Tendrils (Tier 2)
Animation: Reskin of Shadow Embrace with virtually the same mechanics.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Maintain
Range: 50 ft range, 45 degree cone, 5 targets max
+ Deals Crushing damage to targets in front of you that increases the longer you maintain the power.
+ Has a chance on each pulse of applying Soaked to affected targets.
+ Has a chance on each pulse to Knock Down affected targets (25%, 75% if the target is Soaked).
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Nailed to the Ground (2 AP)
Kraken Grip (1 AP): Soaked targets are Knocked Towards you instead of Down, potentially pulling them clear over your head.
Geysir (Tier 2)
Animation: A fountain of water errupts from the ground. It's more like a mix of Ice Burst and Orbital Cannon than like Force Geysir.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Click (30 sec recharge)
Range: 50 ft range, 10 foot sphere, 5 targets max
Tap
+ Deals Crushing damage to the initial target.
+ Knocks the initial target up into the air and nearby foes away from it.
+ Chance to apply Soaked to all affected targets.
- Works only on ground level targets.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Nailed to the Ground (2 AP)
Unending Stream (2 AP): Allows Geysir to be charged and turns it into a patch that does continous Crushing damage. Foes within a 10 foot sphere around the Geysir are repelled away from it, knocked back if the move within a 5 foot sphere. Charging increases the life span of the Geysir patch.
Whirlpool (Tier 2)
Animation: Creates a whirling stream of water, similar to Whirlwind.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Maintain (20 sec recharge)
Range: 50 ft range, 15 foot sphere, 5 targets max
Tap
+ Deals Crushing damage to the initial target, and less damage to foes near that target.
+ The duration of the Whirlpool increases the longer the power is maintained, making it possible for the Whirlpool to continue after the maintain has stopped.
+ Chance to apply Soaked to all affected targets every period.
+ After maintaining for 2 seconds, Roots the initial target.
+ Duration and durability of the Paralyze increases each second maintained.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Vortex (2 AP): Causes the main target of your Whirlpool to become the focus of a vortex, pulling other nearby foes toward that target.
Tidal Wave (Tier 2)
Animation:Works much like Telekinetic Wave, but looks more like water, of course.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Tap, Charge
Range: 50 ft range, 60 degree cone, 5 targets max
+ Deals Crushing amage to targets in front of you.
+ Repels all affected targets.
+ Has a chance to Soak all affected Targets.
Charge
+ Increases damage and energy cost of the Tap effect. Fully charging this power will Knock Down all affected targets.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Nailed to the Ground (2 AP)
Riptide (2 AP): Reverses the Repel effect of Tidal Wave, so all affected targets are now drawn towards you.
Hydro Blast (Tier 3)
Animation: Similar to Force Cascade and Typhoon, only with a water texture.
Type: Ranged Area Attack
Method: Tap, Charge
Range: Range: 100 ft range, 5 foot cylinder, 5 targets max
Tap
+ Deals Crushing Damage to targets in line with your primary target.
+ Repels affected targets. The strength of this repel is affected by your Ego as if it were a knock.
+ Has a chance to Knock Down affected targets. Against Soaked targets, this instead becomes a guaranteed Knock Back.
+ Deals increased damage versus enemies that are immune to knockback, such as bosses.
+ Energy cost is greatly reduced if an Energy Form is active, but the Form is consumed, and temporarily deactivated.
Charge
+ Increases damage, Knock Back distance and energy cost of the Tap effect.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Wave Motion Attack(2 AP): Hydro Blast becomes a maintain power instead of charge.
Water Cage (Tier 3)
Animation: Similar to Ego Hold, but uses the pose and effect of Ego Choke.
Type: Single Target Ranged
Method: Maintain (10 seconds recharge)
Range: 50 ft range
+ Single target continuous Crushing damage.
+ After maintaining for 2 seconds, Paralyzes the target.
+ Duration and durability of the Paralyze increases each second maintained.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Accelerated Metabolism (1 AP)
Crushing Preasure (2 AP): Causes the damage dealt by your Water Cage to increases rapidly each period.
Hydrokinetic Healing (Tier 2)
Animation: Similar to Arcane Vitality, but working more like the Support Drone's heal beam.
Type: Healing
Method: Maintain
Range: 50 ft range
+ Continuously heals target while maintained. If there is no target, you will heal yourself.
+ The amount healed increases as you maintain this power.
Advantages
Rank 2 (2 AP)
Rank 3 (2 AP)
Healing Stream (3 AP): Hydrokinetic Healing becomes a cylinder AoE power, healing friendly targets in a straight, 5 ft wide line.
Healing Wave (3 AP): Hydrokinetic Healing becomes a sphere AoE power, healing friendly targets in a 10 ft sphere around the primary target.
Hydrokinetic Resonance (1 AP): You can use the energy of other living things in contact with water around you to ampify your Hydrokinetic Healing. Every Soaked target, friend or foe, within a 20 ft sphere around you increases the HP healed per tick by a small amount.
Animation: Basically just reskinned Ancient Tentacle, without spines.
Type: Summon
Method: Charge
Pet Properties
+ Fully Charge to summon an untrollable Tentacle next to the target.
+ Rank 1: Your Tentacle attacks with a Liquid Slam, dealing Crushing damage and frequently Soaking the target. It can also shoot Water Bolts at targets it cannot reach.
Advantages:
Rank 2 (2 AP): Now summons 2 Tentacles.
Rank 3 (2 AP): Now summons 3 Tentacles.
Cleansweep (2 AP): Your Tentacle gains a melee cone attack that deals Crushing damage and can Soak the affected targets. (Looks like a combination of the Annelid Horrors' sweep attack and the Werewolf Hunters' Holy Water attack.)
Extended Attack (2 AP): Your Tentacle gains the Stream Cannon power. (Uses the Annelid Horrors' Venomous Breath animation while shooting a water beam that is as thick as the pet itself, creating the illusion that it stretches itself to lash out against the target.)
Water Elemental (Tier 2)
Animation: These pets are transparent and have a water-like texture, as if they were permanently under the effect of Liquid Form.
Type: Controllable Pets
Method: Charge
Pet Properties
+ Fully Charge to summon a controllable Water Elemental.
+ Maintaining control of your pets reduces your Energy Recovery and Energy Gain, and increases the Energy Cost of your powers.
+ Rank 1: Your Water Elemental attacks with a Liquid Bite, dealing Crushing damage and frequently Soaking the target. It can also shoot Water Bolts at targets it cannot reach.
Custom Ability
+ This pet can be instructed to activate the following ability with a button on its control bar:
+ Liquidation - Your pet temprarily transforms into a puddle (think Roin'esh Transference State). In this form, it cannot deal damage, but has its defense greatly increased and can Soak enemies at contact.
Advantages:
Rank 2 (2 AP): Your Water Elemental gains the ability to lunge at your target.
Rank 3 (2 AP): Your Water Elemental gains the Spit Water power.
Reabsorbtion (2 AP): Your Water Elemental gains a special power that consumes the Soaked debuff on a target to heal a portion of the Water Elemental's health. (Looks like Devour Essence.)
Skins:
Default - Randomly chosen available skin.
Water Cyclone (Rank 1) - A retextured Dust Devil.
Barracuda (Rank 1) - A retextured Barracuda.
Water Djinn (Rank 2) - A Djinn with water textures.
Shark (Rank 2) - A retextured Reef Shark.
Greater Water Djinn (Rank 3) - A bigger Djinn with water textures.
Greater Shark (Rank 3) - A retextured Hammerhead Shark.
Wavemaker (Tier 1)
Animation: ?
Typ: Slotted Passive
+ Can be slotted in an Offensive or Balanced passive power slot.
+ Increases all of your Crushing Damage. This increase scales with your Super Stats.
+ Increases your resistance to all Elemental Damage. These resistances scale with your Super Stats.
+ Whenever you Knock a target, you gain a stack of the Flow buff, which increases the Knock distance of your attacks. This scales with your Ego and stacks up to 5 times.
+ Counts as an Energy Form.
Advantages
+ Rank 2 (2 AP)
+ Rank 3 (2 AP)
Liquid Form (Tier 1)
Animation: The users's body transfoms completely into liquid, becomming transparent and reflective.
Typ: Buff Self
Method: Click
+ Grants immense immunity to all Physical damage.
+ Can be used while Held.
+ Assists in breaking out of Hold effects.
+ 15 second duration.
+ 90 second cooldown.
+ This power is considered to be an Active Defense. Activating this power imposes a 30 second cooldown on all other Active Defenses.
Advantages
+ Rank 2 (2 AP)
+ Rank 3 (2 AP)
+ Back(sp)lash (1 AP): Attacks against you while you are in Liquid Form have a high chance to apply Soaked to all foes in melee range of you.
Water Shield (Tier 1)
Animation: Similar to Kinetic Shield, but using the two-handed block animation.
Typ: Block
Method: Maintain
+ Self damage reduction with better Energy Damage reduction than other Block powers.
Advantages
+ Rank 2 (2 AP)
+ Rank 3 (2 AP)
+ Water Sheath (1 AP): Water Shield will continue to provide a defensive benefit against all damage for a short time after blocking. 8 seconds duration, 16% resist all.
You have put a lot of thought into this. Awesome
And, wow, nice detailed fleshed out set, Rokuro.
/signed and signed again.
Wet is clearly a buff.
Wet T-shirt contest anyone?
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Mentalist powers (those that don't look like pink fire) look kinda like pink liquid.