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Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Costumes and Concepts
So I've been wondering, how do other people come up with the ideas for their characters?


My ideas hit me from a different angle each time. Sometimes I start with a powerset, work out a costume and then struggle with a name, only to scrap the whole thing and start over. Other times I have a great name idea and then everything else falls into place. Occasionally I just muck around in the character creator and see if something strikes my fancy.


So, fellow Champions, how do YOU do it? Where do you start? What inspires you to create a new champion? Whether you want to spill the beans or keep your trade secrets, this is just me being curious.

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  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Well. I make a costume, then a name. Biography grows from that. As for what inspires me, a lot of different things. For Mr.Sunshine, I happened to get the Maniacs Tank Top and that's what got me to make a Clown character. For Alex Chase, I got a Purple Gang Tommy Gun and decided to make an Ex-Purple Gang Hitman.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I just let my fantasy flow and when a good idea drifts by, I write it down and then maybe make a char out of it. :D

    But usually, I need at least a little inspiration. But that can be pretty much anything!
    For example, many of my chars are Kamen Riders, which I am a huge fan of (as most of the forum people already know ^^). Yet I don't try to clone any of the original Rider, but create my own instead.
    Many others are 90s antiheros, which I came to like mainly due to Linkara's reviews of old Image comics. The writing and artwork is meh (at best), but I do like the costumes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I go to beastial heads and click on Serpent Horned, and then I just go from there.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I usually fumble the tailor of one of my current characters, sometimes to make my boyfriend angry, and then bamph!! a new character is born!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    My usual standard that's been going on for years is this: Pick a race or animal species, then pick a power or a weapon. (Or in some cases, a set of up to 3 powers.)

    After that, there's the matter of fleshing it all out with a bunch of questions. I'll supply a few samples:
    -How did they come across this power?
    -How do they feel about this power?
    -How do the character's closest acquaintances react to this power?
    -Does the character have any restrictions of his own about using this power?



    There's a ton more questions that could be applied, honestly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    Hmm... this is a question I've been meaning to answer for quite some time.

    I am quite methodical when it comes to creating characters.

    First I start with a powerset, I love to do thematic characters, makes most of the fun of the game for me. Usually I aim for a single power framework, though in some cases I mix and match.

    After that, I see how the powerset feels and looks and then try to come up with an idea of a character costume that makes sense using those powers.... my main aim its to create iconic looking characters.

    Then the third step its the one that varies and can be tricky. If I came up with a clear idea of what I want (a caster using X or Y pieces, etc) the costume comes up together real quick... 1 hour tops. In case its a specific theme I am not familiar with (for example one of my Steampunk costumes AKA Mary Wheelahan) I do some research on the general trends and styles that the theme uses. Though if I don't manage to get a clear idea, then its when it gets reeeeeeeally long, because I have to be mix and matching all sorts of pieces and random ideas that come up to my mind. Those usually take in between 4-8 hours... yeah its long, and I am kinda a perfectionist when it comes to costumes.

    If I am not happy with either the way the character feels using those powers or how the costume ended looking up.... pretty much that costume goes to the trash, and its time to get back to step 1 or 2 xD.

    I don't do bios, so thankfully I don't have to worry about that as well hahaha.

    Most of my characters are built that way, there's a couple of exceptions but... usually this is the rule.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    For me it's fairly random, but it will normally come about when I'm researching information for an entirely different idea. For example, the background for the character in my signature was based off of a chapter in the Tibetan Book of the Dead about "life-power" objects/locations. I'd only stumbled across it by accident while looking up something else in the book.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I have no process, if a name, concept, build or costume idea pops into my head I jump into the character creator and fiddle around with it for a while, if I get something I like I take some time to work out a bio and general personality for RP purposes, then make the character.

    There are tons of ideas and concepts that never amount to an actual character, but I always save them for future reference or use, which is incredibly irritating because I've saved so many costumes that the game has decided to just remove a ton of the older ones from the list, so sadly a lot of my saved costumes end up lost, which really defeats the purpose of saving them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited April 2012
    I have no process, if a name, concept, build or costume idea pops into my head I jump into the character creator and fiddle around with it for a while, if I get something I like I take some time to work out a bio and general personality for RP purposes, then make the character.

    There are tons of ideas and concepts that never amount to an actual character, but I always save them for future reference or use, which is incredibly irritating because I've saved so many costumes that the game has decided to just remove a ton of the older ones from the list, so sadly a lot of my saved costumes end up lost, which really defeats the purpose of saving them.

    Pretty much this for me too. I may have a personality in mind a powerset I want to try out or I'll get some new costume parts and suddenly an idea springs to mind.

    Ultimately the ones that last don't come from any one direction either, and just boils down to how fun they are. Some characters go through a couple overhauls, either in powers or costume. One of my characters started out as a robot, but I found the look too boring. Two complete costume overhauls later and now I have a seriously grimdark looking guy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I've had the most success starting off with an background or theme for my characters.. you know, 'what is this one going to do?' or 'how did they wind up in Millennium City, fighting crime?' If I start with a costume, sometimes it works.. more often than not, I wind up with a character I lose interest in by roughly level 20. <_<

    I'm also quite particular when it comes to theme. If a power fits completely and is too terrible to massage into something reasonable, either from a functionality standpoint or visually *cough* Haymaker *cough*, I can and have put entire characters on hold while I see if I can salvage it with an almost-quite-theme-like ability.

    Sometimes though, an old idea that lost some steam gains traction when new powers emerge. d('-' )
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I usually get my ideas from the character creator itself -- I'll see a costume piece and think of a concept that could use it.

    Otherwise, my ideas come from movies, TV, other video games etc.

    I usually do a Google Image search to get some ideas and then see if I can reproduce them in the character creator.

    Then, if I like the design, I try to come up with a power-set that is both effective and consistent with the theme.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    It reallly varies, sometimes I'll have one idea, play around with the CC, then have an inspiration for a totally different character.

    Sometimes I'll have an idea that's been brewing at the back of my mind for a while.

    Often it's just some odd combination of looks that sets off a train of thought. Like my main, Sister Steel, a whole backstory idea just came to me from stumbling across her helmet ...

    And then sometimes I might read about a power combo or a build that sounds cool that sparks off an idea.

    Or at other times I might play around with a power I haven't tried before, but feels like a comfortable combo to use, and will create a backstory and concept around that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    TylerF wrote:
    Pretty much this for me too. I may have a personality in mind a powerset I want to try out or I'll get some new costume parts and suddenly an idea springs to mind.

    Ultimately the ones that last don't come from any one direction either, and just boils down to how fun they are. Some characters go through a couple overhauls, either in powers or costume. One of my characters started out as a robot, but I found the look too boring. Two complete costume overhauls later and now I have a seriously grimdark looking guy.

    Arguably my most iconic and memorable character is Megaton, who was born form me discovering how to do glowing heads, that was it. The rest is a thinly veiled tribute to Dr. Manhattan. Granted I barely use the character anymore since I'm struggling with a good radiation build that's also fun to play and the fact that he has become so ridiculously powerfull that roleplaying him is pretty boring.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I've saved so many costumes that the game has decided to just remove a ton of the older ones from the list, so sadly a lot of my saved costumes end up lost, which really defeats the purpose of saving them.

    Unless I'm mistaken, but your costumes should be saved in your Champions' directory, as a screenshot... If you have too many in there, you can move them to another directory, and even view what the costumes look like without having to go into the game; just have to set the folder to thumbnail view.

    Ontopic... I'm sucker for detailed pieces and glowy bits. Though sometimes I just hit random until I get something acceptable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012

    There are tons of ideas and concepts that never amount to an actual character, but I always save them for future reference or use, which is incredibly irritating because I've saved so many costumes that the game has decided to just remove a ton of the older ones from the list, so sadly a lot of my saved costumes end up lost, which really defeats the purpose of saving them.

    I noticed the same thing. After some detective work, I discovered they switched directories on my at some point or other.

    My older costumes are located in
    C:\Users\Public\Games\Cryptic Studios\Champions Online\Live\Screenshots


    Newer ones are located in
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Cryptic Studios\Champions Online\Live\Screenshots

    I just copied/pasted the old ones into the new directory and they were visible again


    I'm running Windows 7, 64 bit so the directories may be a little different from your own.

    Hope this helps! :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    Despite being a big fan of younger male heroes, My inspirations are pretty much from different places.

    Some of them are original characters that I've been hashing out over time, in my own universe. Others are original characters from DC or Marvel, that I've adapted to the game.

    Others have themes that I tried on the spot. Super Sentai came into being after a local chat discussion and forum browsing when it comes to Power Ranger themed heroes, And I created Princess Rose when I looked at stereotypes in the Magical girl anime theme. Steampunk came into fruition when I watched a steampunk themed movie.

    Yeah sure, a couple of them I created them out of spite... but I enjoy them just the same for other reasons. Overall, it depends on my mood.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I usually start simply by thinking 'I wanna try such and such a powerset...'

    Then proceed to spend a few hours in the costume editor poking around as ideas come to me...

    By the time I'm happy with the outfit I usually have a general theme in mind for the character.... Go off and find some music which I think fits that theme, and use it to inspire my writing as I work out their bios...

    My biggest nemesis, however, is the OFKIN character limit on the bio screen....it can sometimes be tough to condense the story down to where it fits :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited May 2012
    I perform a blend of dark arts and then a seance, combined with deep observation of the moon cycles to decypher which powers I will start with. Then it all goes red and the changes happen, I wake up unclothed with my head on the keyboard; covered in sweat and having cried blood. I look at the costume and finally, perhaps most disturbingly, I hit the skip tutorial button.

    Or ya know whatever I'm sort of inspired to do at the time, it varies.
  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I figure I'll resurrect this topic since it's always interesting to find out about a person's creative process. CO has a lot of creativity in it thanks to all that kickass customization!

    I've noticed that barring folks who just press the randomize button or outright copy an existing character, a lot of CO heroes tend to be built around the power set, as opposed to traditional comic heroes, which tend to have their powers molded around their character or story. I mean, think about a traditional hero like Cyclops, and very little about his origin or personality suggests a "natural" fit for having eyebeams. Or, for example, Matt Fraction's "Triumph Division", a group of Filipino heroes. Instead of deciding what each hero can do, Fraction drew the inspiration from Filipino culture and history, then molding their powers to fit the theme.

    I think that's in part due to CO being a game, and the fact that you choose your power set before any other decisions in character creation. This "powers-first" philosophy, especially after Archetypes were introduced, leads players to naturally gravitate towards making characters and personalities that suit the way they play, rather than letting the character determine the style. A player who picks Glacier or Devastator won't survive long trying to play their character like a Soldier or Mind, so their character's lore evolves to fit the mechanics.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it does illustrate some of the differences imposed by CO's nature as a game.

    --

    As for my process, I tend to follow more of a theme, then picking an archetype (I'm a silver and can't use freeform) to fit the theme. If an archetype is unavailable, I try to pick something similar.

    And my favorite theme? "Weird Robots".

    I love robot superheroes, at least in concept. I want chunky robots that do heroics because, frankly, it's weird for a robot, or at least a robot that acts robotic (rather than an android that acts human) to be a superhero. I want chunky robots that look mechanical and not like more dudes in tights with metal bits.

    As for the "weird" part, I try to pick powers that don't fit with the "robotic" idea. I love technological robots that do non-technological things, or robots that look robotic but don't act that way (I prefer the former if I can swing it).
  • man515drakeman515drake Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You should start a new post because Necromancy is bad and will just get the post locked. :wink:
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