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How to make a Perma Stealth build and never die in PVE again
nesn00000
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Since the development team won't respond to PTS bug reports or even aknowledge any feedback in testing, the only way to get a response is to BREAK the game. So here you go people, enjoy.
When the PTS patch hits live, take the new Night Warrior passive, stealth sigils and Evasive Manuvers with Advantage, use the sneak power. Too add icing to your cake you can also use Rank 3 nade. And ooh yea, you can also hit all the mobs in the room for 32k, one shotting everything.
Mobs cannot target you, you will never die. You one shot everything, including other players since stealth site is impossiable to get now unless you have legacy items. Even with Legacy stealth sight gear you cannot see into this much stealth.
GG China, fail some more.
When the PTS patch hits live, take the new Night Warrior passive, stealth sigils and Evasive Manuvers with Advantage, use the sneak power. Too add icing to your cake you can also use Rank 3 nade. And ooh yea, you can also hit all the mobs in the room for 32k, one shotting everything.
Mobs cannot target you, you will never die. You one shot everything, including other players since stealth site is impossiable to get now unless you have legacy items. Even with Legacy stealth sight gear you cannot see into this much stealth.
GG China, fail some more.
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@becca_black
Evasive Manuvers - with Advtantage, Rank 3 Stealth Sigils, Rank 3 nade - not necessary - don't forget your transport power as well.
Ok agreed with this up until GG China, fail some more , wut has the pandas done to you unless your talking about the upcoming sci fi action flick PvA : Panda vs Alien.
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I see it all the time, I think you have delusions that the average player is skillful.
I think you have delusions that the average player cares about dying. *trips over a rock, breaks neck, hits recover, walks into traffic, hit by car, hits recover, goes too zoo jumps in tiger exhibit, hits recover* ... oh... is there a reason to be careful/skillful/anything but sloppy and reckless?
What was the point of this thread again? ...did this thread have something to do with pvp? Well there's yur parblem...
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it's sad really, ppl challenging me on duels and whining about how OP my build is, shows how skillful players really are....
At any rate, Ive been very involved in the night warrior discussion on PTS and i havent noticed the OPs presence in these threads. I have to wonder how the devs arent listening to the OP but the OP isn't posting any much of any thing to listen to.
Several changes to NW have been made as a direct result of player posting on PTS. Hell, i even asked for a new energy builder and got it. Maybe its not that the devs aren't listening, but they just aren't implementing the OPs ideas (if he/she posted any), there's a big difference.
I'm not saying that the devs always listen, but in this particular case they have.
This whole thread also depends on the assumption that NW and how it interacts with other powers wont be changing at all b4 it goes live. That's a big assumption considering that Nighthawk isn't scheduled to go live until next month and isn't even on pts yet....
/thread
PVP is starving without rewards
1. Please give us Daily PVP missions that reward Questionite.
2. Please give us an exchange rate between Acclaim and Recognition so that PVP has access to all "On Alert" PVE rewards.
But that's not gonna make me create a no-concept character just to be hiding all the time.
the highest priority .. but maybe that comes from playing Diablo 2 Hardcore back in the days
Different games are different. I play like a reckless maniac... but it rarely ends me up dead.. my slower teammates on the other hand... different story
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I think you are under the delusion that most average players want to make 'leet buildz' and not whatever makes sense for their character idea/concept.
No, wait, my bad, the build the OP is talking about doesn't even work since EM resets mobs when you break agro. It's inferior to any other survivable build just because one of your core pieces doesn't function when solo. What the OP REALLY means to say, is this build will break PvP so badly, that ye olde minimines, STC, your current AoPM bull**** mode builds and those 10K+ HP Smash clones all rolled into one will look like a bucket of kittens in comparison.
This thread is completely and utterly pointless, because NW doesn't break anything in PvE any worse than it's already "broken" and no matter what the devs do for PvP it's not going to be enough until they A: Address the win conditions, bugs, imbalances, etc, of the modes and maps and B: Give PvP its own balance tables that are completely separate from PvE. Y'know, like Guild Wars and CoX did? Because trying to balance both with one set of rules is a good way to hemorrhage players from both sides?
...I just recently realized something really disturbing. We're all eating Sodapop3's "humble pie."
Just wait until not even BASH pops anymore.
Considering the reputation of things being clearly discussed/mentioned/pointed out on test only for them to hit live anyway..... My experience has been that PTS feedback is largely ignored.
If you hit hard enough, resetting with EM adv won't matter, and that part is mentioned.
I'm not sure why AOPM is "bullxxxx" to you - I've seen you in action first hand in bash, and I was keepin up on a lowly cursed in unrestricted.
Nesno's aware of how irritating the stealth system is in it's current form. It usually takes heavy exploitation for certain bugs to get fixed, so I'm not surprised it's being posted here.
Well said Xao I am so wanting that whole post put on a big in game sign we could all walk around with. We could have angry mobs chasing Nesno down the street with said sign. Better still if we could use said sign to batter a certain AE member around the head *not nesno* the one that spams radiance on themselves even when said munter is in the club .
GG Nesno, with ur fail racism but then again ive heard u lot talk so I am not surprised.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Except that it doesn't reset mobs if you have a pet in the area for them to target unless something changed recently. Things like Ice cages count... even sigils...wait a minute... There's some other issues in this post as well (such as the massive difference between highly survivable if targeted and untargetable) but I'd rather not spend more keystrokes deconstructing it.
Carry on.
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Separate adjustments for pvp, totally. But, then again, I think cryptic constantly underestimates the potential draw that pvp has in this game. It was the only thing keeping me going for a while, because the content was getting stale. Now, there isn't even a reason to do it anymore, because acclaim gear is so lacking. Remember when it was the other way around? Yeah, that wasn't good either. Is it possible for both sides of this to get equal attention?
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Fixed that for you. Thank me later.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Except you're still dedicating a bunch of powers to your build to do this gimmicky little dance, which is already more or less possible on live with a different setup, and untargetable builds aren't generally better in PvE because you usually *want* to be hit if you can take the damage. Oh, yeah, there is a difference, but it doesn't support what you want it to.
I expected secksegai to lack any form of comprehension or insight (which is why I outright don't bother replying to him), but you really should know better than this. Point still remains.
...I just recently realized something really disturbing. We're all eating Sodapop3's "humble pie."
RIP Caine
...now it's kind of disturbing and wierd
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it should've been a cabbage.
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To Nepht: Your reference to radiance spam on self, I assume refers to my Paragon toon but I do not remember spamming it in Club Caprice. I did have a rather unpleasant encounter in the Club just last night if you are referring to that episode. If indeed I have offended roleplayers in the Club I sincerely apologize. As this is the only MMO I have ever played and in general I have not roleplayed before, so I had no ideas about the specific rules of engagement. Even less so that the Club was a dedicate venue for RPers. Well, I have learnt that now and given the numerous restrictions I don't think I will be very tempted to enter Caprice anytime too soon again so no worries about me spamming radiance in the Club LOL.
Of course! That's why you never backed your slanderous statement about how I used to get flamed all the time. You're right you're entitled to insult people without proof or justification and how dare anyone prove you wrong, you're XaoGarrent, everything you say is fact!
I must have missed your original statement since it was edited. But I also don't need to resort to insults EVERY time I disagree with something someone else says.
When I disagree with someone, I'll use logic to back my stance. Either the opposing view refutes my logic with logic, or offers an alternative perspective I did not consider. Otherwise we agree to disagree or the opponent resorts to insults... ahem.
There are always repercussions to pve possibilities. I don't even like nesno, but I respect his insight and understand the purpose of this thread. He's discovered something that could be exploited, but as the general experience for many is that feedback on PTS forums is largely ignored, brought it here so that it is far more likely to get the attention it needs.
The stealth mechanic has been very problematic since alerts hit, especially when you consider that its virtually a requirement to use at least one legacy item and a large amount of INT to bother with perception at all. This particular problem pointed out by nesno may be an extreme case, but doesn't change the fact that it needs to be addressed, particularly the stealth mechanic in general.
@xaogarrent - Feel free to attempt to insult me more as you see fit, I won't do the same and let people judge for themselves whose opinion holds more merit.
You might be a swell chap you dont seem to rage ur mostly silent so I was well outta line and I'll apologize for being a massive *****. BUT OMG ur always spamming it no matter were u are could be 4 mins before nimbus starts SPAMMING IT \o/ standing in ren cen SPAMMING IT \o/ AFTER Grav dies guess whut STILL SPAMMING IT \o/
Now I do recognize that said spamming buffs you like a boss but we got to remember it uses Cryptic effects and animations and it does look like someone that should be on some sort of list
>_> it has annoying effects something the devs should look at changing the effects on those who buff themselves with that.
Also I wouldnt worry about the drama lamas in the club they are always taking offense .
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
Technically it's libel, and therefore trolling/flaming, he's guilty of rather than slander.
/nitpicking off
Overall to the point of this thread: How does this make you feel, devs, that we feel it necessary to post mechanics exploits openly in the general board because the feedback we give you on the PTS section is ignored so much?
inb4 thread lock and deletion
Actually, libel is what he's guilty of. JUST like he did in this thread, he took a bunch of words out of context and turned it into something I didn't say, and then proceeded to try and call me out on it. He's been bringing it up over and over, despite the fact his inability to comprehend meant he was wrong the first time. I feel it's wiser to let people like that wallow in their own incorrectness than try to explain what you meant to them, because they'll just twist your explanation out of shape the same way.
He has serious reading comprehension issues, which is why it's not even worth reading anything he posts. I'd actually still have him on ignore, but apparently there's no ignore feature on the new forums. Or if there is, I'm still looking for it.
...I just recently realized something really disturbing. We're all eating Sodapop3's "humble pie."
Funny you should mention the ignore thing. The lack of said feature on these new boards is exactly why we're having this very brief conversation right now.
Thanks for proving my earlier statement true.
I love the irony - I logged in just to write this, thanks for the laugh. I had to read it twice just to make sure I got it right the first time hahaha.
But I think he'll get it. Eventually.
LOL no worries about it, I do agree the animation and sound effect of the radiance spam can be rather irritating so I will try to remember no to spam it when I am not really doing anything much hahaha. It is just more convenient that I always start with 8 stacks of enrage from aggressor if it is on all the time. Promise I will try to cut it down haha. I will like them to change the animation too maybe just glow instead of the hand wave and sound.
It is entirely your fault that I almost busted out laughing like a crazy person at work.