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Rewards for fighting the new Alert Villains
rokurocaris
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Many people here have problems fighting the new player-created villains, and not only with their various bugs. That's another problem altogether, but still a problem.
See, these guys are a lot stronger than the average alert villain. They are Legendaries, not just Supervillains. They are far too strong for the average alert player and downright invincible in certain types of alerts.
What really bugs me about them though is that practical players have absolutely no reason to play their alerts! At all! They don't drop anything worth more than any other (easier) alert villain. They don't drop costume unlockers, for obvious reasons. And I don't think the idea of them droping Questionite ever crossed your mind. But you could at least have added a perk for players who have fougth either of them at least once. But no!
What we got here are just more difficult, but unrewarding alternative boss fights.
So here are my suggestion to make those fights pay off:
* Make them actually drop Questionite. These villains are technically nemeses, except a lot stronger. If anything except Rampage villains justifies Questionite drops, it's them!
* If not Questionite, make them drop more Resources in Grabs, More XP in Smashes and higher mods in Bursts. That way, we get rewards and you can keep the Q market wherever you want it.
* Definitelly add a collection perk and a title for defeating them all. That's the least you should do.
Think about it.
See, these guys are a lot stronger than the average alert villain. They are Legendaries, not just Supervillains. They are far too strong for the average alert player and downright invincible in certain types of alerts.
What really bugs me about them though is that practical players have absolutely no reason to play their alerts! At all! They don't drop anything worth more than any other (easier) alert villain. They don't drop costume unlockers, for obvious reasons. And I don't think the idea of them droping Questionite ever crossed your mind. But you could at least have added a perk for players who have fougth either of them at least once. But no!
What we got here are just more difficult, but unrewarding alternative boss fights.
So here are my suggestion to make those fights pay off:
* Make them actually drop Questionite. These villains are technically nemeses, except a lot stronger. If anything except Rampage villains justifies Questionite drops, it's them!
* If not Questionite, make them drop more Resources in Grabs, More XP in Smashes and higher mods in Bursts. That way, we get rewards and you can keep the Q market wherever you want it.
* Definitelly add a collection perk and a title for defeating them all. That's the least you should do.
Think about it.
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RIP Caine
My suggestion :
Give all Alert Bosses the overpowered Darkness Aura .. or PFF .. and we can finally again
start to ignore that whole Alert Crap and turn back to normal :rolleyes:
ALL alert villains are legendary class to begin with. If you and other people feel that the challenge presents no reason to run alerts, i think thats pretty sad, as with every smash alert you complete, you earn the XP equivalent to running say, Telios Tower, Therakiels Temple, etc, all earned normally in 2-4 minuets!
no incentive? maybe youre just not paying attention
not to mention i think the Baron and nemesis still dropping Q in alerts is a bug. if you made the new alert villains all drop Q, well, lets look at our old friend dockside dustup Blackfang.
theyre SUPPOSED to be hard, if youre going to complain about their difficulty, stay out of the endgame lairs.
my suggestion to the OP and anyone who feels the same, find a worth while team to run with. a well balanced team can take on most challenges in this game, and have fun with it. yes, even the glass as hell DPS. A good, solid team to run with makes all the difference.
P.S. would really help if lv 6 players werent allowed to join alerts too, that would help alot, like adventure packs, they should be at least lv 11 to join alert queues. This would also help with the "difficulty" situation
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Done alot of alerts over the last few days. Only boss to cause problems has been that AO guy. New to the game, only have an AT (Archer), haven't spent much time on gear yet, and don't feel any hate from these bosses. Easiest boss fights Ive seen in an MMO really. Still, can suck if people do stupid things like aggroing the whole map and the boss at once. Thing is that Cryptic cant cure stupid.
I think that there has been a bit of a miscommunication. If I am reading the original post correctly, it was not a complaint about the difficulty of the Alerts. Not a nerf request. It was a simple statement. These are special Alerts. They are supposed to be more difficult than average, which they usually are. It would be nice, therefore, especially seeing that they originated with player generated content, if they got a special reward in line with their origins and somewhat greater than normal challenge rating.
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yes they dont drop Q, they dont drop costumes, but the alert rewards are more or less up to par. in SMASH alerts you get enough XP equivilant to completing a lair on your level, within 2-4 minuets. ifthats nto enough incentive to run an alert, i dunno what is, and as other have stated, the new alert villains, aside from Ao, are rather underpowered
But I do support a small Perk and title for defeating all six of the new folks. I'd also like to see Rogues Gallery Perks for defeating their various Minions, as well as those of the old folks that don't have RG Perks (like Cairngorn Stoneblood and Mr. Gemini).
As for a drop, I understand that there are boss costume drops from the old guys (though I've never gotten anything other than GRAB or Red Winter drops myself), and the new ones have nothing of the sort. Someone in another thread suggested Action Figures for the new guys, but a chance (I say, a chance) at dropping Questionite might be just as good.
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Im a bit frustrated because I was expecting those villains to have unique looks, I know they were made using the game tailor, the costume they use are accessible by everyone, but I was expecting some small customizations on their looks (keeping similar to the original art) just to give us new costume pieces to hunt.
I like that idea! :biggrin:
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P.S. would really help if lv 6 players werent allowed to join alerts too, that would help alot, like adventure packs, they should be at least lv 11 to join alert queues. This would also help with the "difficulty" situation[/QUOTE]
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For example, a Mindslayer one could have an item: Mindslayer's Hair with the description "This is some really fancy dancy hair you've got there. Wait. You got it off a supervillain's unconscious body? DUDE. CREEPY. DON'T KEEP IT. GET RID OF IT, QUICK."
Or Hi Pan: Fancy Hat. "This is a fancy hat. Do you feel rad wearing it? Odd though, you can feel a slight tingling sensation, and the sound of a reptillian voice speaking in what appears to be a dialect of Mandarin Chinese"
Basically, a name relating to the villain in question, a funny description that's related to it, and some stats that make sense in context of the item's properties (for example, Fancy Hat, might give a boost to Intelligence, being a magic hat from a magic man. Mindslayer's hair could increase your Constitution since there was once a urban legend that hair wrapped around your hands would stop caning in schools back when that was a thing from hurting so much (kids from corporal punishment days have WEIRD stories as adults.))
Bonus points if they sorta sound like quest hooks even though you might not want to make more missions with these characters, it makes people interested in them, which is awesome as interest in a character means emotional investment in the game.
I would rather see Mindslayer/medusa's hair as a costume peice,maybe name it "Psi hair" or energy hair?
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