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The controversy over AOPM x 5 teams and Rage of Majesty prompted a sudden thought!
What exactly happens if instead of AOPM a team uses AORP instead?
100% defence all round or is there some kind of cap?
Sounds dull but I'm curious.
What exactly happens if instead of AOPM a team uses AORP instead?
100% defence all round or is there some kind of cap?
Sounds dull but I'm curious.
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The most powerful is the mix of different types, especially AoRP + AoPM, but AoED and even Medical Nanites would work very well in there.
Where I've personally seen something worth controversy is AoPM STR stacking in KotH. The reason being it exploits that map's dependence on KB. But that's an interaction between map and mechanic. Easier to change the map.
Thanks skeeterbarnes my curiosity is satisfied... For Now!
no AoRP: 1/(1+.20) = .833, you have 16.7% "true" defense
1 AoRP: 1/(1+.20+.50) = .588, 41.2%
2 AoRP: 1/(1+.20+.50+.50) = .455, 54.5%
3 AoRP: 1/(1+.20+.50+.50+.50) = .370, 63%
4 AoRP: 1/(1+.20+.50+.50+.50+.50) = .313, 68.7%
So that first one is a doozy, by the time you get to the third you're better off with some other passive.
Now combine those with dodge, IDF, heals...
1 AoRP: 100 / (1+.24+.59) = 54 % true damage; 46 % resisted
2 AoRP: 100 / (1+.24+.59 "self"+.38 "other") = 45 % true damage; 55 % resisted
for ref.: 200 CON Defiance => 6x 16 % Res = 96 % (.96)
100 / (1+.24+.96) = 45 % true damage; 55 % resisted
This concludes that two AoRP users combined provide each other with damage mitigation on par with Defiance, and beginning with three AoRP users in the group everyone will get defiance like (or better) damage mitigation (3x .38 = 1.14)
And the more the merrier.
5 AoRP: 100 / (1+.24+.59+.38+.38+.38+.38) = 29 % true damage, 71 % resisted
What happens is that your Zombie Apocalypse match goes 20 mins...
With 5 AoRP? Gonna need some serious petspam to back that up, otherwise hero zombies will still be able to kill you.
Yeah, I know, just joking about all the stackers I've been seeing in ZA...
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Ofcourse, in CoX, the usually very independant and "lone-wolf" style of game play (which leaves many players foolishly vulnerable), the "Archetype" limitations of those individual toons, the over abundance of Stalkers and all kinds of exploits (kidnapping into guard tower, anyone? :rolleyes:), and the existence of super-crappy, idiotic and game breaking powers like TPFoe... etc etc.. all justified the existence of such teams.
It was actually a farely challenging task to maintain Defender-centric teams in that most people I've played with, at least in the North American servers, pretty much sucked in the "team play" and "formations" concept (other than the people who ONLY did team playing in arena fights, rather than true hero vs. villain situations in Siren's or RV). Every defender had to play a distinct part, as well as provide both unique and universal buffs (the example of former being TP-resist shielding to protect against TPFoe attempts, the example of latter being Tactics stacking, for stealth detetcion, sight and hit probability buffing).
Therefore, it was one of those team/formation gameplay consisted of very powerful buff/debuffing but also squeamishly squishy individuals where one failure or one death can cascade into a total team wipe.
Another factor that justified such team/formation buff stacking, was that there were also very interesting counters using powers which normally was considered sucky. For instance a stationary Defender team centered on Hurricane and multiple AoE debuff protection can be broken by Corruptor's and their Gas Traps, which stack enormous amounts of debuff and paralyze through continuous vomitting, breaking up hero formations.. as well as Mastermind's wide area Forcefield repell and team TP, in which case a MM would take the villain team and TP smack in the middle of hero formations and break it up in a truly villainous manner. Other powerful AoE debuffs such as radiation was also very useful.
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Compared to that... in CO, buff stacking is so easy. Some protective buffs like Ebon Sigils, especially when there are multiple numbers of them + Nimbus, is goddamned impossible to break... AoE debuffs are usually weak or non-existant, and it is very difficult to break through the formation, especially when the people standing in formation are not squishy as Defenders,,, AoPM stacking, bringing up everyone's health to over 11k levels, multiple shielding powers and healing dealth, STR stacking totally preventing knocks... etc etc..
In those situations, it just makes opponents spit at something and then log out.
Just give us some powerful debuffs which are most useful in breaking up bunched up people.
(ps) For starters, increase the perception debuff, damage, and potency and duration of coughing in Gas Arrow, dammit!