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circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
circleofpsi#4619
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Sup

So got two builds (One in leveling phase, so subject to change) and another that is Level 40 but just needs a check down.


Level 40 Build: (Still in PH, so not committed)


So this is my Dual Pistols Build, I was going for a build that stuck with Two-Gun Mojo & Lead Tempest, but Bullet Hail seems to work fine as it is with the build I have.

Bullet Hail for my AoE and Mob clearing tool /w Shield to keep me protected while doing so, while my TGM is my Single Target DPS. Con Grande for the Stun & Holdout shot for the Heal & Armor Debuff (it's not in the herocreator yet, why it says bleed).

As for Passive, EU and Form: Gone for TC for my Passive and Sharp Shooter for my Form for focus on "Furious" and Endo Rush w/ Resruge as I find both a decent Heal with Furious being stacked.

(Specs and such should be fine?)


(Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
v3.45:38

Super Stats
Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Gunslinger (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Ego: 8, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 15: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 18: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Gunslinger
Level 1: Bullet Hail (Rank 2, Wall of Bullets)
Level 6: Holdout Shot (Stim Pack, Open Wound)
Level 8: Targeting Computer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Concussion Grenade (Stun Grenade)
Level 17: Lock N Load
Level 20: Two-Gun Mojo (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Smoke Bomb
Level 26: Endorphin Rush (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 32: Sharp Shooter
Level 35: Killer Instinct
Level 38: Bullet Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 35/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Electro Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Electric Slide

Specializations
Dexterity: Combat Training (3/3)
Dexterity: Gear Utilization (2/3)
Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

Devices
Slot 1: Vesperine Cloak
Slot 2: Nimbus of Force

Additional Notes:




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Building Phase Build:

The role/theme for this build is aimed at useing EoTS as my main form of attack/w it's shield. The combo is for the debuffs only and went for "Firey Blade" as Bleed won't have a factor in this build, being Dual Blades.


Dragon Kick /w adv for the discount in cost and BCF for the Single Target Damage & Pull. (Tho I can go for R3 for outright DPS). Last 2 powers are still up to debate as this is a build in the works, that I test LIVE (rather then shooting them to level 40)

Passive/Specs and all that should be correct for a Dual Blade build

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
v3.45:38

Super Stats
Level 6: Strength (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Master (Str: 8, Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
Level 9: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 15: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 18: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 21: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Rain of Steel
Level 1: Reaper's Caress (Cleaving Strikes, Fiery Blade)
Level 6: Night Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Telekinetic Shield
Level 11: Void Shift
Level 14: Eye of the Storm (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Dragon Kick (Dragon Rush)
Level 20: Burning Chi Fist (Rank 2, Righteous Fury)
Level 23:
Level 26:
Level 29: Endorphin Rush (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 32: Resurgence
Level 35: Steadfast
Level 38: Whirling Dragon Strike (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 29/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Power Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35:

Specializations
Strength: Swole (2/3)
Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
Strength: Brutality (2/2)
Strength: Overpower (3/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Upper Hand (3/3)
Warden: The Best Defense (2/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

Devices



Let me know what ya'll think

Psi.

Comments

  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    For the first build, I may just use Chilled Form as the toggle/form, since it can also proc off of the Ult (and any ranged attack used at >25ft). The build otherwise looks okay for Pistol Muni, and if you wanted a free power slot for w/e then you could drop the R1 AO for it (unless you also wanted to keep the AO for the extra breakfree).

    For the 2nd build, the main issue w/ it atm is that it lacks a toggle/form. I assume that you wanted FotTempest? Also, Shredded from the SB combo won't boost the Crushing dmg on BCF or Dragon Kick, unless you mean to instead make Dragon's Wrath your main single-target attack? (you'd have to pick DW up then) If taking DW, then you can also drop R2 from BCF and just use it for the AoE pull-in. I may also get Dragon Kick to R2 (since you're using it for Rush anyways, and it can be decent as a higher-dps AoE alternative to EotS that also has an AoE stun), and I'd also prob rank up the block enhancer a bit. Here's an example edit of it:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
    v3.45:38

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Master (Str: 8, Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 9: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 18: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Rain of Steel
    Level 1: Reaper's Caress (Cleaving Strikes)
    Level 6: Night Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3, Silent Running)
    Level 8: Form of the Tempest
    Level 11: Eye of the Storm (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Steadfast
    Level 17: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 20: Burning Chi Fist (Righteous Fury)
    Level 23: Dragon's Wrath (Rank 2, Tiger's Courage)
    Level 26: Dragon Kick (Rank 2, Dragon Rush)
    Level 29: Void Shift
    Level 32: Endorphin Rush (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Telekinetic Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 38: Whirling Dragon Strike (Rank 2)
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Power Skating (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Overpower (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (3/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (2/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Still gears mostly for Dex here.
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
    circleofpsi#4619
         Posts: 2,913 Arc User
    flowcyto wrote: »
    For the first build, I may just use Chilled Form as the toggle/form, since it can also proc off of the Ult (and any ranged attack used at >25ft). The build otherwise looks okay for Pistol Muni, and if you wanted a free power slot for w/e then you could drop the R1 AO for it (unless you also wanted to keep the AO for the extra breakfree).

    For the 2nd build, the main issue w/ it atm is that it lacks a toggle/form. I assume that you wanted FotTempest?



    I may end up getting Chilled Form in that case then yes, thxs!


    As for the 2nd build: Yes I forgot to put in FotT in the build, but as the build is only level 16, I'll put it in the next rank up as for Shredded from the SB combo, I'd only had that put in there to help out with EoTS as that was my main attack, but if I'm gonna go for Dragon's Wrath the main single-target attack, then I'll ditch BCF as I don't see the need for two STAs even if the one is used for a Pull.

    I'd assume I'd get more out of DW then BCF, regardless if they are R3 or not, right?
    Psi.
  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,431 Arc User
    The gun build needs an Piercing debuff like Frag Grenade with advor Burst Shot.
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    Eh, he can also do okay w/ having one Piercing debuff for the Muni build (Frail Armor on Holdout Shot), but yeah he could also add a source of the AP debuff in there, if desired.
    circleofpsi#4619 wrote: »
    I'd assume I'd get more out of DW then BCF, regardless if they are R3 or not, right?
    BCF, when optimized, prob still beats out DW now usually, but I assume that this is meant to be more of a DB/SB-based build than an Unarmed one, and you already have a Slashing debuff in the build (and not a Crushing debuff for BCF).
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
    circleofpsi#4619
         Posts: 2,913 Arc User
    flowcyto wrote: »
    Eh, he can also do okay w/ having one Piercing debuff for the Muni build (Frail Armor on Holdout Shot), but yeah he could also add a source of the AP debuff in there, if desired.


    So I've edited the build a bit after doing some testing:

    I've switched the Passive to Composure as it gives me more Protection then TC does. I've also ditched Bullet Hail and just stuck with TGM & Lead Tempest Combo. (TGM for Single Target & Lead Tempest for AoE around me)

    I've removed the Stun Frag for the AP Frag to get more of the debuff going on top of the debuff in Holdout shot. I've still kept in my Threat Wipe & removed my AO for a Self-Rez. (Tho I may go back to Lock n Load, depending whats better)

    The rest did not change.

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
    v3.45:38

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Gunslinger (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Ego: 8, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 9: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 18: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 21: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Gunslinger
    Level 1: Holdout Shot (Stim Pack, Open Wound)
    Level 6: Composure (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Frag Grenade (Cuts and Scrapes)
    Level 14: Smoke Bomb (Concussive Escape)
    Level 17: Endorphin Rush (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Two-Gun Mojo (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Lead Tempest (Rank 2, Maybe I'm Just Better)
    Level 26: Fiery Embrace
    Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Sharp Shooter
    Level 35: Killer Instinct
    Level 38: Bullet Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Electro Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Electric Slide

    Specializations
    Dexterity: Combat Training (3/3)
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (2/3)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

    Devices
    Slot 1: Vesperine Cloak
    Slot 2: Nimbus of Force

    Additional Notes:

    Psi.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    I may still pick Chilled Form over Sharpshooter here as the toggle/form (and then you aren't tied to procing Furious for it), but otherwise the edited build looks okay overall.
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  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,431 Arc User
    Do you find yourself drawing so much aggro that you really need a threat wipe? You might put that near the end of your build and if you find you don't use it that often replace it with the Stun Grenade with the stun adv. Personally, I find stuns way more useful than threat wipes. Not convinced that Composure will be superior to Targeting Computer. The bonus to dodge/avoidance is pretty small. I tend to like powers that allow me to do more damage than RNG based defensive bonuses. Again, maybe put composure near the end of the build so you can swap it for TC if that seems the better option.
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  • circleofpsi#4619 circleofpsi
    circleofpsi#4619
         Posts: 2,913 Arc User
    edited December 2022
    flowcyto wrote: »
    I may still pick Chilled Form over Sharpshooter here as the toggle/form (and then you aren't tied to procing Furious for it), but otherwise the edited build looks okay overall.

    Ah yes, I forgot about that in the build I did swap to Chilled Form to get more out of then Sharpshooter, thanks for the reminder!
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Do you find yourself drawing so much aggro that you really need a threat wipe? You might put that near the end of your build and if you find you don't use it that often replace it with the Stun Grenade with the stun adv.

    I always tend to nab a TW just for them "Oh Shi" moments but by time that happens I'll prop be dead by then xD, but I might just grab the stun as it was useful.
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Not convinced that Composure will be superior to Targeting Computer. The bonus to dodge/avoidance is pretty small. I tend to like powers that allow me to do more damage than RNG based defensive bonuses. Again, maybe put composure near the end of the build so you can swap it for TC if that seems the better option.

    DPS wise, yeah I can see how it'll be superior to TC but I did get Composure for the Konckback & defensive bonuses, but I can see how if I wanted to go for raw DPS I'd had gone for TC, but I do want a healthy mix of both. So for atleast this build I'll stick to Composure even if it does shave off some good Cirt DPS.


    Edit; I've edited the build to have Chilled Form and since I am useing that I put R3 in Lead Tempest
    Psi.
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