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ICE DPS build around Shatter

corunncorunn Posts: 81 Arc User
I was wondering if there was a good way to build a dps build around Shatter. Here's what I've got so far. Is it viable, and will I be missing out on a lot of dps by not using ice spear? Planned rotation is to spam ice blast, and occasionally shatter. Avalanche for AOE of course.

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
v3.45:38

Super Stats
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Inferno (Dex: 10, Ego: 8, Rec: 10, End: 10)
Level 6: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 15: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Ice Shards
Level 1: Ice Blast (Rank 2, Hard Frost)
Level 6: Shatter (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Icy Embrace
Level 11: Ice Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 14: Chilled Form
Level 17: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Wall of Ice (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Aurora
Level 32: Smoke Bomb
Level 35: Ice Shield (Rank 2, Frigid Air)
Level 38: Ice Burst (Freeze, Dirtbag)
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Specializations
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Aggression (2/2)
Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Relentless Assault (2/3)
Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)

Devices

Comments

  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,847 Arc User
    edited October 2022
    Shatter is more for burst AoE dmg, if anything. In that vein, it can't replace something like Icicle Spear that well. You can still utilize Shatter for AoE, though. You'll prob want fast ways to build Chill in AoE (like Frostbreath w/ adv) and access to Cold Snap (Ice Form and Ice Sheath can help w/ that) and/or Ice Objects (Ice Cage or Ice Burst are easy ones). Here's an example build that still has Ice Spear for single-targets:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
    v3.45:38

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
    Level 6: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Ice Shards
    Level 1: Ice Blast (Hard Frost)
    Level 6: Frost Breath (Rank 2, Frost Bite)
    Level 8: Ice Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Chilled Form
    Level 14: Icy Embrace
    Level 17: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 20: Icicle Spear (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Shatter (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Ice Cage (Sub-Zero Cellblock)
    Level 32: Aurora
    Level 35: Ice Sheath (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Ice Shield (Rank 2)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Athletics (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Frost Breath can apply and refresh stacks of Chill on tap, while Ice Blast can be used for Hard Frost on single-targets, and Icicle Spear is the main ST filler attack. You can use Frost Breath's Chill, Cold Snap, and/or Ice Cage to help setup for Shatter dmg. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some End and Con.
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  • corunncorunn Posts: 81 Arc User
    Thanks, Flow. Looks great
  • warcanchwarcanch Posts: 1,115 Arc User
    There's a player, forget his game name, that says he tops scoreboards and does killer dps in Therakiels Temple runs with: Ice Form, Ice Blast + Hard Frost adv, and Shatter (unknown if he uses r3 or r2+adv).

    He espouses dropping Ice Spear and just do the above. Plus, I'm sure some basic other Ice powers, but that's just assuming.

    I did a little testing and yeah, can get some good numbers. However, Ice Spear is single target and Shatter is a 50', 180 degree cone power. Not exactly something to use when you need to be concerned about what that might hit. And, damage is pretty meh if no targets have Chill or an Ice Object on them.​​
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,847 Arc User
    edited November 2022
    Yea, the dmg from Shatter can indeed be good, and its wide reach def helps w/ sweeping through trash, but it does take notable building up each time for good hits, and Ice already has a strong dps AoE out of the gate w/ Avalanche. I'd still keep ice Spear, regardless.
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