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Is Kinetik's identity known to the public?

Hello again. I was just wondering, does Kinetik have a public identity?

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  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited June 2020 Answer ✓
    As of the last writing on the subject (published 2010, in Champions Universe), Kinetik's civilian identity is secret from the public. His costumed identity is widely recognized, though, and he's one of the most popular Champions in Millennium City, especially in the black community where he's considered a role model. Kinetik takes that role very seriously, always trying to conduct himself honorably, and going out of his way to attend to black neighborhoods.

    BTW his secret ID is
    Brendan Grant, an accomplished scientist in Biochemistry, Microbiology, and Physics, working for Dew Chemical Company. And yes, Dew is the CU analogue to Dow Chemical.

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  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,430 Arc User
    To they have a hill top facility called Mountain Dew? :)
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  • xskulllopsxxskulllopsx Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    u can see it on loading screen sometime about how he get his powers.
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    u can see it on loading screen sometime about how he get his powers.

    His similarities to Barry Allen are notable, although as I mentioned elsewhere, he's nowhere near the Flash's class speed-wise. Despite his moniker, Kinetik is described as a laid-back and well-adjusted guy. No great trauma behind his becoming a superhero, just a genuine desire to serve and protect. Although both his parents died during the Battle of Detroit, so he became the breadwinner for his younger siblings to keep the family together. Probably a great contributor to his sense of responsibility.
  • dialamxdialamx Posts: 931 Arc User
    I know CO gave him Unarmed MA as his fighting style, but how does he actually fight? Is it Martial Arts, or does he do things similar to Flash (like vibration and wind manipulation)?
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    Both, actually. Kinetik has learned a pretty wide variety of "speedster tricks," e.g. various manifestations of wind, sound, vibration, phasing, environmental manipulation, and the like. But he's also developed a "Speedster Martial Arts" style of hand-to-hand fighting taking advantage of his tremendous movement capability.
  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,430 Arc User
    Are his MA moves superior to Red Snake's ;) ?
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  • dialamxdialamx Posts: 931 Arc User
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Are his MA moves superior to Red Snake's ;) ?

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    Never go in against Red Snake when Martial Arts is on the line!
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Are his MA moves superior to Red Snake's ;) ?

    Different. Kinetik is more superhuman than Redsnake. As far as pure martial art technique goes, Redsnake is more skilled and versatile. But Kinetik's moves are optimized for someone who can cover a lot of ground very rapidly, and hit with high velocity.

    (This is based on comparing the latest PnP games stats for Kinetik in Champions Universe, and Redsnake in Vibora Bay.)
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    I think the best illustration of how a speedster would fight hand to hand, is from the most recent Death of Superman animated movie, with Flash taking on Doomsday using Hawkman's high-tech mace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRlG2Eu_oY

    EDIT: Try watching it at 2x normal play speed. =)
  • sapphiechusapphiechu Posts: 259 Arc User
    Doesn't having a secret identity violate the ASPRA registration and make him a vigilante? Does this mean that as Kinetik, he cannot give testimony in a court, because of it?
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  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    The general answer is, No. A registered superhuman only has to provide their true identity and summary of their capabilities to the appropriate government officials, after which it's held in a secure database which has never yet been breached, nor its information used inappropriately. Their identity is never made public unless and until they're convicted of criminal acts.

    As for court testimony, the Stronghold source book goes into detail about how the American legal system has adapted to supers. Beyond simply having one's identity and powers registered with the US government, a superhero can actually be "sanctioned" by the government, i.e. granted federal police powers equivalent to an FBI agent. A sanctioned hero is permitted to testify without revealing their true identity in open court, provided some other means exists of proving they are who they say they are. The down side of sanction is that the hero is then restricted as law enforcement generally are in determining probable cause, gathering evidence, use of force, and so on.
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    jaazaniah1 wrote: »
    Do they have a hill top facility called Mountain Dew? :)

    Um, not to my knowledge. :s But they probably have their corporate headquarters in one of the towers of Renaissance Center, although that isn't specifically stated anywhere I know. Dew Chemical Company was founded in Detroit in 1954, and is one of the few major companies currently active in Millennium City that was there before the Battle of Detroit.
  • squirrelloidsquirrelloid Posts: 869 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    bulgarex wrote: »
    The general answer is, No. A registered superhuman only has to provide their true identity and summary of their capabilities to the appropriate government officials, after which it's held in a secure database which has never yet been breached, nor its information used inappropriately.

    A government database which has never been breached OR used inappropriately? That blows my suspension of disbelief out of the water. Yes, even in a setting with superheroes. Superheroes are way more plausible than responsible government.
  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    I get what you're saying, and it's a reasonable perspective; but imagine what kind of explosion the government would face if it ever came out that that information had been misused. The government screws with any one of us, it's unlikely they're going to suffer. It starts screwing with superheroes? That's breaking a nest of gamma-powered murder hornets.

    Even though in principle any superhuman in Champions America who doesn't register with the government is breaking the law, in practice that's not really enforced when it comes to superheroes who otherwise behave responsibly. Not only do superheroes enjoy general public support, but the US government has needed them time and again to help counter critical threats. Instead the government adopted a policy of attrition, requiring registration as the price for superheroes wanting or needing government cooperation or resources, which they often do. Over time that policy has proven effective, and the superhero community as a whole has grown more tolerant of and trusting in the registration system. The government stands to lose a great deal if that trust is violated.

    Nonetheless, I acknowledge that Champions Earth is rather more idealistic and optimistic than the real Earth we know today, and humanity's various factions tend to work together more positively there. However, keep in mind that this is an Earth that's faced multiple alien invasions from other planets, other dimensions, other times; a roster of home-grown megalomaniacal supervillains and globe-spanning conspiracies fully capable of conquering the world; and more than one apocalyptic event that could have ended the human race or all life on this planet. Every generation has to have had impressed on them the need for cooperation for mutual survival. At the same time, the extraordinary things the human race has survived and achieved must have bolstered morale and confidence.

    But make no mistake, government corruption and malfeasance, familiar societal unrest and conflicts, are still very real and present on Champions Earth. They're just not as pervasive and dominant there as we tend to see them as being here.
  • jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,430 Arc User
    I wonder who is in charge of that database's security? Must be a real super genius! Cybermind was able to hack Socrates and he's never got into that database? Maybe it's not connected to the Internet?
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  • bulgarexbulgarex Posts: 2,310 Arc User
    edited June 2020
    There's certainly precedent for that. UNTIL keeps its main Artificial Intelligence, HUGIN, isolated from the Internet, although it can communicate with the non-intelligent MUNIN computers installed at UNTIL bases; but can't control them or perceive through them. Otherwise HUGIN depends on human operators to input data, which it sometimes finds frustratingly slow. The HACS ("HUGIN Assessment and Control Squad") provide that data, monitor HUGIN's programming and function, and keep it as happy as possible. (See UNTIL: Defenders Of Freedom for more on all the above.)

    The registration database, and responsibility for registering superhumans, was turned over to PRIMUS when it was formed in 1986. And we are talking about the United States government; it can afford to contract as many super-geniuses as it needs. Moreover, all of them would have motivation to contribute to making that database as secure as possible.

    But ultimately, the database is secure and not abused because, for world-building purposes, it has to be. At least until a particular Game Master decides that for the story they want to run, it isn't. ;)

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