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Range DPS build for Cosmic (Single Target). (PA or darkness)

I am currently trying to play DPS, and farming cosmic.

Looking for help with build PA DPS (I do have some PA damage core mod lvl 7 - lvl 8) or Darkness. Never played any DPS, always tank role, so I don't really know what type dps is the best for cosmic so if PA or darkness both not good for it what is the best?

Thanks,

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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    PA is the best for ranged dps, assuming you can manage 3 attack toggles at once. Darkness is okay for ranged dps and will be easier to manage, but doesn't have the dps potential of something like 3-slot PA.

    Here's a 3-slot PA dps build, as an example:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
    v3.34:32

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Tempest (Dex: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 10)
    Level 6: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 9: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Power Bolts
    Level 1: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Infrared Guidance System)
    Level 6: Concentration
    Level 8: Targeting Computer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Overdrive
    Level 14: Micro Munitions (Rank 2, Alpha Strike, Accelerated Metabolism)
    Level 17: Reconstruction Circuits (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Dual Wrist Rocket Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Power Conversion (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Blinding Light
    Level 38: Thundering Return
    Adv. Points: 32/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Ideally it uses Micro Muni, Minigun, and Wrist Rockets at once, and Power Conversion can help if you're having energy problems. If you want to focus on AoE, then Micro Muni and Minigun can do a bit of that (and you can fully move around when using the toggles). I gave you a threat wipe cause you may want one for PA. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some End (and maybe a bit of Rec if you want better energy equilibrium).

    If you don't want to be as glassy for other types of content, you could trade Dex SS for Con SS, though this will lower your dps a bit.

    --

    And if you're curious, here's an example of a committed dps build for Darkness:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
    v3.34:32

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Psychokinetic (Dex: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
    Level 6: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 9: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 18: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Shadow Bolt
    Level 1: Shadow Blast (Rank 2, Devoid)
    Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
    Level 8: Night Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3, Silent Running)
    Level 11: Chilled Form
    Level 14: Shadow Embrace (Rank 2, Draining Shadows)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Ebon Ruin (Rank 2, Nyctophobia)
    Level 23: Dimensional Collapse (Glimpse of the Abyss, Lingering Darkness)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Ebon Void (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Fiery Embrace
    Level 38:
    Adv. Points: 31/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Puts up Fear and Devoid w/ charged Shadow Blast, then uses charged Ebon Ruin as it's main attack, while using Dimensional Collapse for refreshing both debuffs (you can charge SBlast again if both debuffs fall off, for whatever reason). SEmbrace is the main AoE, and DCollapse can also help there. Night Warrior is is very strong passive for a build using charged attacks, but you can do fine w/ a passive like Shadow Form, Enchanter, or Ego Form here. The last power can be w/e ya want. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Rec.

    (same thing here- you can replace Dex SS for Con SS if you want to trade some dps for some maxHP for other content.)
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    boomjenny#3477 boomjenny Posts: 93 Arc User
    flowcyto wrote: »
    PA is the best for ranged dps, assuming you can manage 3 attack toggles at once. Darkness is okay for ranged dps and will be easier to manage, but doesn't have the dps potential of something like 3-slot PA.

    Here's a 3-slot PA dps build, as an example:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Ranged Damage)
    v3.34:32

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Tempest (Dex: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10, End: 10)
    Level 6: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 9: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Shooter (Dex: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Power Bolts
    Level 1: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Infrared Guidance System)
    Level 6: Concentration
    Level 8: Targeting Computer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Overdrive
    Level 14: Micro Munitions (Rank 2, Alpha Strike, Accelerated Metabolism)
    Level 17: Reconstruction Circuits (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Dual Wrist Rocket Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Power Conversion (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Blinding Light
    Level 38: Thundering Return
    Adv. Points: 32/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Ideally it uses Micro Muni, Minigun, and Wrist Rockets at once, and Power Conversion can help if you're having energy problems. If you want to focus on AoE, then Micro Muni and Minigun can do a bit of that (and you can fully move around when using the toggles). I gave you a threat wipe cause you may want one for PA. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some End (and maybe a bit of Rec if you want better energy equilibrium).

    If you don't want to be as glassy for other types of content, you could trade Dex SS for Con SS, though this will lower your dps a bit.

    PA DPS was super fun, within my current gear can do 1 Mil damage cosmic. I wonder if you can help me within a melee dps build, I heard people say that bestial melee has higher dps within Massacre. So please share me a build bestial build plz.
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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    I thought you wanted a ranged build? But yeah I can give you one for Massacre. You prob want Enrage as the toggle/form with it cause of its innate knockdown:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
    v3.34:32

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Penitent (Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
    Level 6: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
    Level 9: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Infernal Bolts
    Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
    Level 6: Supernatural Power
    Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Enrage
    Level 14: Lacerating Cyclone (Rank 2, Vortex Technique)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
    Level 23: Eviscerate (Rank 2, Messy)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Fiery Embrace
    Level 38: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Overpower (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
    Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
    Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
    Brawler: Finishing Blow (2/3)
    Brawler: Flanking (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Puts up bleeds and Shredded w/ Shred, uses Massacre as its main filler, and taps Evis to quickly refresh both debuffs. The Cyclone attack can AoE and help pull in enemies, and Shred has a small cleave area for AoE as well (UR can also give you some extra burst dmg and AoE). Gears mostly for Str, w/ some End and Rec for smoother energy. As with the other builds here, Dex SS can be swapped for Con SS, if desired.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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    boomjenny#3477 boomjenny Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    flowcyto wrote: »
    I thought you wanted a ranged build? But yeah I can give you one for Massacre. You prob want Enrage as the toggle/form with it cause of its innate knockdown:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
    v3.34:32

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Penitent (Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
    Level 6: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
    Level 9: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Infernal Bolts
    Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
    Level 6: Supernatural Power
    Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Enrage
    Level 14: Lacerating Cyclone (Rank 2, Vortex Technique)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
    Level 23: Eviscerate (Rank 2, Messy)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Fiery Embrace
    Level 38: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Overpower (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
    Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
    Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
    Brawler: Finishing Blow (2/3)
    Brawler: Flanking (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Puts up bleeds and Shredded w/ Shred, uses Massacre as its main filler, and taps Evis to quickly refresh both debuffs. The Cyclone attack can AoE and help pull in enemies, and Shred has a small cleave area for AoE as well (UR can also give you some extra burst dmg and AoE). Gears mostly for Str, w/ some End and Rec for smoother energy. As with the other builds here, Dex SS can be swapped for Con SS, if desired.


    After testing all the build, I still feel 3 toggle PA DPS is highest base my on current gears and mod for cosmic. I wonder for PA build is there any way that I can squeeze little more DPS from different PA build like non toggle or beam, or the 3 toggle is the highest dps for PA build?

    Also, after killed cosmic there are player names and number shows under team up button, I wonder if that is how much damage each player done? (normally I saw my number is 1.2 - 1.8 mil).

    Thanks,


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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    edited August 2019
    That score is a combo of your damage and healing done, afaik, but it can be affected by other things like player death penalties.

    And yea, for sustained dps you'd pretty much peak at 3-slot PA for ranged. Interrupting the rotation for another attack will lower your sustained dps (esp if it's an attack that's not a slotted PA attack, due to power lockouts). If you have good AoAC and AoPM auras from allies, you may be able to manage the rotation without Power Conversion's energy, and if you can do that without bottoming out on energy then you can forgo the 5% dmg penalty for a bit more dps that way. The other general way is to just get better gear, which is true for any build.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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    boomjenny#3477 boomjenny Posts: 93 Arc User
    flowcyto wrote: »
    That score is a combo of your damage and healing done, afaik, but it can be affected by other things like player death penalties.

    And yea, for sustained dps you'd pretty much peak at 3-slot PA for ranged. Interrupting the rotation for another attack will lower your sustained dps (esp if it's an attack that's not a slotted PA attack, due to power lockouts). If you have good AoAC and AoPM auras from allies, you may be able to manage the rotation without Power Conversion's energy, and if you can do that without bottoming out on energy then you can forgo the 5% dmg penalty for a bit more dps that way. The other general way is to just get better gear, which is true for any build.

    OK, I guess I just need get better gears then.
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    flowcyto wrote: »
    I thought you wanted a ranged build? But yeah I can give you one for Massacre. You prob want Enrage as the toggle/form with it cause of its innate knockdown:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform (Melee Damage)
    v3.34:32

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Penitent (Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
    Level 6: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
    Level 9: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Infernal Bolts
    Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
    Level 6: Supernatural Power
    Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Enrage
    Level 14: Lacerating Cyclone (Rank 2, Vortex Technique)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
    Level 23: Eviscerate (Rank 2, Messy)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Antagonize (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Fiery Embrace
    Level 38: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Overpower (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
    Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
    Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
    Brawler: Finishing Blow (2/3)
    Brawler: Flanking (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Puts up bleeds and Shredded w/ Shred, uses Massacre as its main filler, and taps Evis to quickly refresh both debuffs. The Cyclone attack can AoE and help pull in enemies, and Shred has a small cleave area for AoE as well (UR can also give you some extra burst dmg and AoE). Gears mostly for Str, w/ some End and Rec for smoother energy. As with the other builds here, Dex SS can be swapped for Con SS, if desired.

    I wonder If I can switch Dex as my primary stt if I use night warrior to replace Pestilence passive? For the ult power, what about final punch or feral rage are they good too? imbue was changed and will share the CD with feral rage if I take feral rage what should be the replace power? Or I can keep imbue and take final punch?

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    flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User
    edited September 2019
    You can use Dex PSS, though you'd still want your gear focus to be on Str (and for it to be SS'd) if using Enrage. I prob wouldn't take Feral Rage or Final Punch as ults (latter can be fun, but it eats your form stacks; former will put any AO and AD on cd and also eat your form stacks), though UR is still fine as an ult.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
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