Character using PFF - has it ever been fixed?

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User

  January 2019

  You have to build around PFF a bit, though it can be workable depending on the level of content you are doing. It can be okay for hybrid dps in groups where others are tanking, since it can absorb occasional AoE dmg and regenerate in between (though you still want to block on top of it when you can). An example build using some Gadgeteering:
  
  https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=14230qbMGHPT000000710074037F0034037I03K5037G001C0e3707ER003B03K6001L0000002WID3BIR2MGB20000000000&e=
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
  Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
  Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Specialist (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Int: 8, Rec: 10)
  Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
  Level 9: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
  Level 12: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
  Level 15: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
  Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Particle Rifle
  Level 1: Pulse Beam Rifle (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 6: Concentration
  Level 8: Personal Force Field (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Sonic Boom Generator (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 17: Molecular Self-Assembly
  Level 20: Thunderstrike (Strike Down, Recharge)
  Level 23: Force Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3, Force Sheathe)
  Level 26: Masterful Dodge
  Level 29: Field Surge (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 32: Imbue
  Level 35: Thundering Return
  Level 38:
  Adv. Points: 29/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
  Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
  Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
  Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
  Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
  Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
  Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
  Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
  Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)
  
  Last few power slots can be w/e ya want.

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• pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  January 2019

  It's possible to do most content using PFF, but it's also possible to do most content without a passive. The fundamental issue with PFF is that the rate at which the field regenerates is extremely low and cannot be boosted by external healing, so it basically amounts to not having a passive in any extended fight.
  
  Why do you want PFF? There may be other power choices that achieve what you want from your character without being saddled with the limitations of PFF.

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019

  pantagruel01, you are right. I have around 50 charachters and try to mix it up a bit when I can. Does the same go with the Regeneration in the Infernal framework?

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• pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  January 2019 edited January 2019

  slowecsl4pwe wrote: »

  pantagruel01, you are right. I have around 50 charachters and try to mix it up a bit when I can. Does the same go with the Regeneration in the Infernal framework?

  No, regeneration ramps up to somewhere around 1500 hp/3s; it's not a preferred power for main tanking cosmics (though plenty for most event cosmics) but it's good in almost all other content. Moonstruck (requires a Blood Moon perk to unlock) helps its performance but shouldn't be thought of as mandatory.

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019

  Thanks all for the information

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019

  I guess the same goes with a tanking Power Armor build as well. Of course, like the other build this goes back a ways …
  
  I would like to keep her PFF if possible, and advice? Thanks
  
  PowerHouse http://powerhouse.nullware.com/
  
  Link to this build: http://powerhouse.nullware.com/powerhouse.html?v=7&amp;n=Selena Steel Mark 1&amp;d=1754baXUNQWB1a09100940G9A0D34039K0J9E089G003F039M0L3B05MB017O009S008F000DtX438W3V70
  
  Name: Selena Steel Mark 1
  
  Archetype: Freeform
  
  Super Stats:
  Level 6: Recovery (Primary)
  Level 10: Ego (Secondary)
  Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)
  
  Talents:
  Level 1: The Scourge
  Level 6: Amazing Stamina
  Level 9: Daredevil
  Level 12: Investigator
  Level 15: Ascetic
  Level 18: Boundless Reserves
  Level 21: Wordly
  
  Powers:
  Level 1: Power Bolts
  Level 1: Tactical Missiles (Crippling Challenge)
  Level 6: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Infrared Guidance System)
  Level 8: Personal Force Field (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Micro Munitions (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenging Strikes)
  Level 14: Energy Shield (Phalanx Defense System)
  Level 17: Overdrive
  Level 20: Inertial Dampening Field (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 23: Plasma Beam (Rank 2, Melta Cannon, Challenging Strikes)
  Level 26: Field Surge (Rank 2, Power Swell)
  Level 29: Circle of Primal Dominion (Rank 2)
  Level 32: Miniaturization Drive
  Level 35: Implosion Engine
  Level 38: Lock N Load
  
  Travel Powers:
  Level 6: Jet Boots (Rank 2)
  Level 35: Hyper Ball
  
  Specializations:
  Recovery: Gear Utilization (3/3)
  Recovery: Rapid Recovery (2/3)
  Recovery: Staying Power (2/2)
  Recovery: Efficient (3/3)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
  Protector: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Protector: Bulwark (2/2)
  Protector: Debilitating Challenge (2/2)
  Protector: Resolute (3/3)
  Mastery: Recovery Mastery (1/1)

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019 edited January 2019

  I have tried retooling her but not sure of the SS's. Thanks
  
  Selena Steel Mark 1 - Freeform (Tank)
  
  Link to this build: https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&amp;n=Selena Steel Mark 1&amp;d=14580YRUXTWa0G00B19100950J970D9E0034039F0L9D099I0L9C009O013B048O001L00MP012WID3BIR0tak30000000000&amp;e=
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  Super Stats
  Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
  Level 10: Ego (Secondary)
  Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Impulse (Int: 10, Ego: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
  Level 6: Academics (Int: 5, Ego: 5)
  Level 9: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
  Level 12: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
  Level 15: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 18: Worldly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Power Bolts
  Level 1: Dual Wrist Rocket Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
  Level 6: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Infrared Guidance System)
  Level 8: Overdrive
  Level 11: Personal Force Field (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 14: Micro Munitions (Rank 2, Alpha Strike, Challenge!)
  Level 17: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Phalanx Defense System)
  Level 20: Plasma Beam (Rank 2, Melta Cannon, Challenge!)
  Level 23: Concentration
  Level 26: Reconstruction Circuits (Rank 2)
  Level 29: Field Surge (Power Swell)
  Level 32: Lock N Load
  Level 35: Thundering Return
  Level 38: Circle of Arcane Power (Rank 2)
  Adv. Points: 36/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6: Lightspeed
  Level 35: Jet Boots (Rank 2)
  
  Specializations
  Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
  Intelligence: Tactician (2/2)
  Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
  Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
  Protector: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Protector: Bulwark (2/2)
  Protector: Debilitating Challenge (2/2)
  Protector: Defensive Expertise (3/3)
  Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)
  
  Devices
  
  

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User

  January 2019

  Well, you've heard some of the caveats from Panta- as long as you are aware of the limits of PFF, then go ahead I guess:
  
  https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&amp;n=Selena Steel Mark 1&amp;d=13480oMQUPTa0G10B19100970D9C0034039E009F0J9O039D093B01950JER00MP03K6001L002sid3BIR0tak30000000000&amp;e=
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
  Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
  Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Cybernetic Warrior (Con: 10, Int: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
  Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
  Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
  Level 12: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
  Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 18: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Power Bolts
  Level 1: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Infrared Guidance System)
  Level 6: Concentration
  Level 8: Personal Force Field (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Overdrive
  Level 14: Micro Munitions (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
  Level 17: Reconstruction Circuits (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Energy Shield (Rank 2, Phalanx Defense System)
  Level 23: Field Surge (Rank 2)
  Level 26: Dual Wrist Rocket Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
  Level 29: Masterful Dodge
  Level 32: Circle of Arcane Power (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 35: Imbue
  Level 38: Thundering Return
  Adv. Points: 36/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6: Lightspeed (Rank 2)
  Level 35: Jet Boots (Rank 2)
  
  Specializations
  Constitution: Unyielding (1/2)
  Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
  Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
  Constitution: Adrenaline Rush (2/2)
  Constitution: Armored (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
  Protector: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Protector: Bulwark (2/2)
  Protector: Debilitating Challenge (2/2)
  Protector: Defensive Expertise (3/3)
  Mastery: Protector Mastery (1/1)
  
  I'd prob still take Con SS for PFF builds that wanted to tank. Resilient is pretty nice for the extra knock resist anyways.
  
  (You could always take a diff defensive passive if you aren't satisfied w/ PFF's performance, though in that case you may want to train it and Field Surge last to make retraining them cheaper.)

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• pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  January 2019 edited January 2019

  The basic problem with PFF is that its effective combat healing rate is about 800 hp/3s on a full health shield, declining to half that as the shield takes damage, the shield can't be replenished by other sources of healing except Field Surge (which has a 90s cd), and essentially all opposition that averages less than 800 hp/3s can be beaten without a defensive passive.

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User

  January 2019

  Yea, well there are other ways of helping PFF, but its generally just easier to take a diff passive at that point. OP is free to try it out and see if they still like PFF for the content they want to do, but I won't blame them for changing it out later.

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019

  Thanks for the update. What would be the best deff passive to take for this Power Armor build since it is ranged? Invulnerability, Regeneration? I don't really know my tanking defensive passive options well.

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,859 Arc User

  January 2019

  Defiance is fine overall for the large dmgRes boost, and is nice for the extra energy- which could be relevant if you're trying to do 3-slot PA (and you save 4 adv points from not needing to rank it). Else, Invuln and Regen are solid picks for most content, w/ Regen making self-healing more automated, and Invuln being better vs smaller and medium sized hits than Defiance. I prob wouldn't take LR w/o dodge-related powers like TKicks, and those are generally better w/ melee builds.

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019

  I'll give Defiance a try with the build. Thank you

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• rtma Posts: 1,200 Arc User

  January 2019

  Personal Force Field Fixed?
  *Stifled laughter*
  Only the devs can help it now.

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• pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User

  January 2019

  slowecsl4pwe wrote: »

  Thanks for the update. What would be the best deff passive to take for this Power Armor build since it is ranged? Invulnerability, Regeneration? I don't really know my tanking defensive passive options well.

  Unfortunately, the mechanics of power armor toggles (they get shut off by blocking, and cannot restart until a short time after you finish blocking) make power armor tanking dubious in any high end content (it's fine if you don't need to block much).

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• slowecsl4pwe Posts: 221 Arc User

  January 2019

  I mainly use it for Alerts and such, and with the new build running Defiance it has performed quite well. Cosmics would be another story all together I fear. Thanks

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