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What If? Champions Online: Battle Royale

What if they shut the main game down and turn it into a Battle Royle game concept?
With all the character customising, costume wise. And with limited "Free Form" powering selection.

Let's be nice and polite.
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    sgtken60sgtken60 Posts: 252 Arc User
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    What if they shut the main game down and turn it into a Battle Royle game concept?
    With all the character customising, costume wise. And with limited "Free Form" powering selection.

    Let's be nice and polite.

    Well for me, I would quit playing, I cannot stand PvP so the whole idea of a Battle Royale, is just not for me.
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    sistersiliconsistersilicon Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    What if they shut the main game down and turn it into a Battle Royle game concept?
    With all the character customising, costume wise. And with limited "Free Form" powering selection.

    Let's be nice and polite.

    {checks Cryptic’s record with PvP in their games}
    {checks the entire industry’s record with chasing trends after games with unassailable leads emerge}

    Yeah, I’d throw this on the pile of discarded games marked “Doesn’t matter if they’re good or clever because they’re late to market” with Battleborn, Gigantic, DC Infinite Crisis, MxM, and Lawbreakers.
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    pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    What if they shut the main game down and turn it into a Battle Royle game concept?
    You'd basically have to write a new game to turn it into a battle royale type game, and if you were doing that you'd use a newer game engine, would have no real reason to tie it to the Champions IP, and would have no particular reason to shut down the MMO since it's a totally different code stream.
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    jonsillsjonsills Posts: 6,317 Arc User
    I'm in agreement with the Sarge up there. I don't do PvP if I can possibly avoid it, and if that ever came to pass I just wouldn't play.
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    jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,431 Arc User
    ^^ Ditto
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    chaosdrgnz43chaosdrgnz43 Posts: 1,674 Arc User
    Reminds me when OVs were made to get peeps into pvp. look how much of a joke it turned out. Also, I don't think it should be called "Freeform" if it is limited. How about "Specific Powerset"?

    Anywho, if the game turned to another ego-flaunting-pvp-schtick, I'd probably just quit the game since I don't need more toxicity and salt in my life.
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    avianosavianos Posts: 6,028 Arc User
    edited October 2018
    I would quit, CO has always been exclusively PvE game for me
    and most importantly because I despise PvP and I cannot stand the toxicity of the PvP community
    Following the Battle Royale gimmick would be the kiss of death for the game in a ridiculous oversaturated market of Battle Royale games with everyone and their mothers trying to cash in on that fad

    {checks Cryptic’s record with PvP in their games}
    {checks the entire industry’s record with chasing trends after games with unassailable leads emerge}

    Yeah, I’d throw this on the pile of discarded games marked “Doesn’t matter if they’re good or clever because they’re late to market” with Battleborn, Gigantic, DC Infinite Crisis, MxM, and Lawbreakers.

    Along with Lawbreakers don't forget Radical Heights which was the death of Boss Key Productions studio :grimace:​​
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    roughbearmattachroughbearmattach Posts: 4,784 Arc User
    I don't typically do well in PvP, but any big change would get me to start playing again.
    I haven't logged on in ages.
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    So... turn the entire game into BASH? Well shoot, what could go wrong.​​
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    sgtken60sgtken60 Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited October 2018
    As I said I am not a PvP'er, never could stand it and I started playing online games with Ultima Online back in 90s before it had Trammel. BUT saying that I know there are players who enjoy PvP so maybe the Dev Team could make a Battle Royale like Event for those who love PvP?

    Unless there is something like this already?
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    As I said I am not a PvP'er, never could stand it and I started playing online games with Ultima Online back in 90s before it had Trammel. BUT saying that I know there are players who enjoy PvP so maybe the Dev Team could make a Battle Royale like Event for those who love PvP?

    Unless there is something like this already?

    Yes, it's called BASH. It's in the Hero Games queue. It's a free-for-all pvp match. It's also a salt mine. BASH pvp in this game has a long history of degeneracy and scum-baggery. 2015 was the height of BASH deviancy, and anyone involved knows why a "battle royale" version of CO would be just awful.​​
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    soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    As I said I am not a PvP'er, never could stand it and I started playing online games with Ultima Online back in 90s before it had Trammel. BUT saying that I know there are players who enjoy PvP so maybe the Dev Team could make a Battle Royale like Event for those who love PvP?

    Unless there is something like this already?

    Or they could remove PVP from CO and make a PVP superhero/villans game. Would make way more sense considering how uninspiring pvp is in CO. Plus, making a new game they would be able to fine tune the balance of things for PVP instead of PVE. Plus, a PVP game should not really be with this style of combat. If you want a true PVP game, you have to have free targeting and no target locking (except for specific powers that home in on their target, but, you'd have to paint the target first (so to speak)). CO's engine and the very small PVP community would not support this idea overall. Would have to be a different game altogether.
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    pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    Yes, it's called BASH. It's in the Hero Games queue. It's a free-for-all pvp match. It's also a salt mine. BASH pvp in this game has a long history of degeneracy and scum-baggery. 2015 was the height of BASH deviancy, and anyone involved knows why a "battle royale" version of CO would be just awful.​​
    There's really nothing exceptional about BASH; that kind of stuff is standard for FFA PvP games. A battle royale version of CO would be ... a battle royale game. I doubt most of the current player base would be interested, and there isn't really anything about CO that would pull battle royale players away from more established games.
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    flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    soulforger wrote: »
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    As I said I am not a PvP'er, never could stand it and I started playing online games with Ultima Online back in 90s before it had Trammel. BUT saying that I know there are players who enjoy PvP so maybe the Dev Team could make a Battle Royale like Event for those who love PvP?

    Unless there is something like this already?

    Or they could remove PVP from CO and make a PVP superhero/villans game. Would make way more sense considering how uninspiring pvp is in CO. Plus, making a new game they would be able to fine tune the balance of things for PVP instead of PVE. Plus, a PVP game should not really be with this style of combat. If you want a true PVP game, you have to have free targeting and no target locking (except for specific powers that home in on their target, but, you'd have to paint the target first (so to speak)). CO's engine and the very small PVP community would not support this idea overall. Would have to be a different game altogether.

    We can have free targeting. Been using that for like 9 years.
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    edited October 2018
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    We can have free targeting. Been using that for like 9 years.

    Eh, we really only have 1 attack that qualifies for what he's asking for. Everything else is still lock-on targeting where once you've initiated an attack it's going to hit its target no matter what they do. He's talking about a system where you could move out of the way of attacks to avoid them. We could kinda have that if they made everything work like Plasma Beam. I mean hey we are talking about ideas that would be complete train wrecks so I figured I'd bring up that one.​​
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    nbkxsnbkxs Posts: 768 Arc User
    I would quit instantly.
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    darqaura2darqaura2 Posts: 932 Arc User
    I would drop CO forever and ever. I barely log in now. That would be nail in the coffin.
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    aesicaaesica Posts: 2,537 Arc User
    edited October 2018
    If CO turned into a pvp-only game, then...yeah bye.

    As much as I love the tailor and customization, if GIT GUD NUB FITE ME was the only other thing to do, it wouldn't hold my interest.

    Edit: After watching "certain pvpers" in ren center for the last few nights, I don't want to imagine all of CO being like that all the time. Gross.
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    soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    soulforger wrote: »
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    As I said I am not a PvP'er, never could stand it and I started playing online games with Ultima Online back in 90s before it had Trammel. BUT saying that I know there are players who enjoy PvP so maybe the Dev Team could make a Battle Royale like Event for those who love PvP?

    Unless there is something like this already?

    Or they could remove PVP from CO and make a PVP superhero/villans game. Would make way more sense considering how uninspiring pvp is in CO. Plus, making a new game they would be able to fine tune the balance of things for PVP instead of PVE. Plus, a PVP game should not really be with this style of combat. If you want a true PVP game, you have to have free targeting and no target locking (except for specific powers that home in on their target, but, you'd have to paint the target first (so to speak)). CO's engine and the very small PVP community would not support this idea overall. Would have to be a different game altogether.

    We can have free targeting. Been using that for like 9 years.

    Spinny understood what I was meaning. Basically, think your typical FPS.
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    sgtken60sgtken60 Posts: 252 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    Yes, it's called BASH. It's in the Hero Games queue. It's a free-for-all pvp match. It's also a salt mine. BASH pvp in this game has a long history of degeneracy and scum-baggery. 2015 was the height of BASH deviancy, and anyone involved knows why a "battle royale" version of CO would be just awful.​​
    There's really nothing exceptional about BASH; that kind of stuff is standard for FFA PvP games. A battle royale version of CO would be ... a battle royale game. I doubt most of the current player base would be interested, and there isn't really anything about CO that would pull battle royale players away from more established games.

    Well I am petty new to the game, so I did not know for sure. But since it is PvP I most likely never looked, but thanks for letting me know.

    And far as SALT, I used to play World of Warships, it is really, really salt heavy.
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    markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,915 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    And far as SALT, I used to play World of Warships, it is really, really salt heavy.
    enough to make the oceans crystalize and let people play World of Tanks on the Pacific Plain yet? :p

    Seriously though, this thread is dumb. the devs have no reason to do any of this.
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    sgtken60sgtken60 Posts: 252 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    And far as SALT, I used to play World of Warships, it is really, really salt heavy.
    enough to make the oceans crystalize and let people play World of Tanks on the Pacific Plain yet? :p

    Seriously though, this thread is dumb. the devs have no reason to do any of this.

    Yeah WoWs is BAD, the salt content in game would make Neptune sick. It is at times 24/7 of "you do not know how to play" or as they "Git Good".
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    soulforgersoulforger Posts: 1,649 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    And far as SALT, I used to play World of Warships, it is really, really salt heavy.
    enough to make the oceans crystalize and let people play World of Tanks on the Pacific Plain yet? :p

    Seriously though, this thread is dumb. the devs have no reason to do any of this.

    Yeah WoWs is BAD, the salt content in game would make Neptune sick. It is at times 24/7 of "you do not know how to play" or as they "Git Good".

    hence why I play WoWarships infrequently and even when I do, it is against the bots. Freaking bots are way to good with torps though.
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    spinnytopspinnytop Posts: 16,450 Arc User
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    And far as SALT, I used to play World of Warships, it is really, really salt heavy.

    Well I mean that game does take place on the ocean...​​
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    flyingfinnflyingfinn Posts: 8,408 Arc User
    Ocean made of salty tears!!!
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    sgtken60sgtken60 Posts: 252 Arc User
    spinnytop wrote: »
    sgtken60 wrote: »
    And far as SALT, I used to play World of Warships, it is really, really salt heavy.

    Well I mean that game does take place on the ocean...​​
    flyingfinn wrote: »
    Ocean made of salty tears!!!

    Yeah I know, but some of the outright hate that is spewed across the chat is just ridiculous. Heck I spend 8yrs in the USN and I can cuss like a sailor.

    BUT I seen stuff said in WoWs chat that would make a sailor blush.
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    ikonn#1068 ikonn Posts: 68 Arc User
    Like many of you people here, I have many years of time and lots of money invested in CO. However (hypothetically speaking), if this turned into another MOBA or another Pvp-centric game, I would have to uninstall. I am not against PvP, per se, but I am against having a forced PvP environment. If we could "flag" ourselves and opt-in/out in open world... or have specific PvP zones in social areas, I would be fine with that.
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    chaelkchaelk Posts: 7,732 Arc User
    edited October 2018
    Permanent -uninstal
    temporary- go play something else till the dick waving stupidity is over.
    Ixionveridian- OV was meant to be optin. I told them on the PTS exactly how people would get around it and they did.
    It still isn't fixed.
    We now have OV week and Thrash boss fights, let's see how long till people as OV's turn up for free kills.
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