Bit of an unorthodox take on a FF sorcery DPS

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User

  September 2018

  Yea, I wouldn't be bringing this in Hybrid role to large-scale content, as in there you want the strongest aura for allies. But in Support role, it could be okay as a dps support. You don't really have a full healing toolkit, though (100ft tank heal, reses). Also, I dunno why R1 LR is in there (I guess that was meant to be Masterful Dodge), and the build doesn't have a non-cd AoE attack. Preemptive Strike and Avenger Mastery are also not useful here since you lack a Blast, though I may swap Avenger for a diff spec too. Sigils can also be destroyed by boss AoE, and if taking Dex PSS then you want 2/2 in Expose Weakness.
  
  Here's how I may make a Sorc AoED Support:
  
  https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=16430nOMSPYT000000M000MA03MF00MH00MJ0XK503K403Ma0CMZ03Mb05MG01M20WER00MM010mTP0dTy0DnO600000000&e=
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Presence (Primary)
  Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
  Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Witch (Con: 10, Int: 8, Pre: 10, Rec: 10)
  Level 6: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 9: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
  Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 18: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Eldritch Bolts
  Level 1: Aura of Ebon Destruction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 6: Compassion
  Level 8: Conjuring
  Level 11: Skarn's Bane (Rank 2, Trance)
  Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 17: Iniquity (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Hex of Suffering (Rune of Lethargy, Rune of Dismay)
  Level 23: Soul Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 26: Vala's Light (Rank 2, Light Everlasting)
  Level 29: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2)
  Level 32: Pillar of Poz (Mystical)
  Level 35: Masterful Dodge
  Level 38: Divine Renewal (Rank 2)
  Adv. Points: 34/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
  Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
  Presence: Moment of Glory (3/3)
  Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
  Sentinel: Caregiver (2/3)
  Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
  Sentinel: Moment of Need (3/3)
  Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
  Overseer: Administer (3/3)
  Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
  Overseer: Impact (2/2)
  Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
  Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)
  
  Should be able to fill the healer role in higher end stuff, and for more casual stuff you could swap to the Hybrid role and focus more on dps. Can also remove a power if you want a self-res power (or carry around Recovery packs). Gears mostly for Pres, w/ some Con and Int.

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• ares

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  Posts: 40 Arc User

  September 2018

  I do actually have a blast in the 1st power in the form of Eldritch Blast. I see what this build does, but I think the design concept I want to go for is DPS first and support second. So would something like this work as a hybrid for smallscale content and a support for largescale content?
  
  https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=12360rGOJKPY000000M116MA03MG03MP03MM00Ma04MZ0BMK00K605K504DT005800K403Mb040mTQ2W9h2WWP600000000&e=
  
  Support
  v3.11:30
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
  Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
  Level 15: Presence (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Gunslinger (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Ego: 8, Rec: 10)
  Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
  Level 9: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 12: Finesse (Dex: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Eldritch Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3, Accelerated Metabolism)
  Level 1: Aura of Ebon Destruction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 6: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 8: Circle of Arcane Power (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Divine Renewal
  Level 14: Hex of Suffering (Rune of Lethargy)
  Level 17: Soul Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3, Accelerated Metabolism)
  Level 20: Star Barrage
  Level 23: Imbue (Rank 2, Illusive)
  Level 26: Conviction (Reverence)
  Level 29: Masterful Dodge
  Level 32: Chilled Form
  Level 35: Iniquity (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 38: Vala's Light (Light Everlasting)
  Adv. Points: 36/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Dexterity: Combat Training (3/3)
  Dexterity: Gear Utilization (2/3)
  Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
  Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
  Overseer: Administer (3/3)
  Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
  Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
  Overseer: Enhanced Gear (2/3)
  Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
  Avenger: Anguish (2/2)
  Avenger: Round 'em Up (1/3)
  Avenger: Relentless Assault (3/3)
  Avenger: Preemptive Strike (2/3)
  Mastery: Avenger Mastery (1/1)
  
  It's just that I think if I focus on presence as primary, I will actually lose dps since I will have lower crit chance and lower critical severity. At that point there's no real need to even have soul beam, since I could be spamming Skarn's Bane and Hex of Suffering to just multiply team damage as much as possible with stuns and roots while aoe healing.
  
  I wish there was a form that multiplied damage first and healing second, honestly. So the idea here is that I would use Eldritch Blast to boost Soul Beam, which then reduces cast time of Eldritch Blast and it becomes a chain. I didn't take an energy unlock because I thought perhaps Chilled Form and Rune of Arcane Power would be enough to keep me topped up, since with what I had before I was already sitting at full energy all the time, and with AoPM on me I might be getting like 20+ energy ticks from it.
  
  Also, I'm not sure which healing abilities can crit. Since I rely on critical severity to do any healing, I thought that perhaps I need healing abilities that can crit in order to take advantage of that and steer clear from HoT effects.
  

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  Another alternative for an offensive healer (with offense being the primary concern) I came up with on the basis of your advice is this. I tried to really push the idea of maxing out critical strike chance and severity in order to boost damage and also boost healing on the side. Still uses support role and presence secondary for some healing boosts and also maximum AoED, but it goes harder into damage dealing and inadvertantly also boosts the healing.
  
  https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=12360ihOGJKY000000M000MA03MG03O803MP03MJ00MZ0BOI0CK500K605BO005800K405KB040mTO3BIR0CAT600000000&e=
  
  Support
  v3.11:30
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
  Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
  Level 15: Presence (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Chiller (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
  Level 6: Survival Training (Dex: 3, Con: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
  Level 9: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 12: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
  Level 15: Finesse (Dex: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 18: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Eldritch Bolts
  Level 1: Aura of Ebon Destruction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 6: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 8: Life Essence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 11: Circle of Arcane Power (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 14: Skarn's Bane
  Level 17: Soul Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3, Accelerated Metabolism)
  Level 20: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Guide, Cursed)
  Level 23: Conviction
  Level 26: Imbue (Rank 2, Illusive)
  Level 29: Masterful Dodge
  Level 32: Chilled Form
  Level 35: Iniquity (Rank 2, Justice)
  Level 38: Redemption (Salvation)
  Adv. Points: 35/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Dexterity: Combat Training (3/3)
  Dexterity: Gear Utilization (2/3)
  Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
  Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (3/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (2/3)
  Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
  Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
  Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
  Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
  Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)
  
  
  I suppose I'm not really aiming to be an effective healer for endgame content as much as I want to have something that would be beneficial to the group in general in the form of AoED (I haven't even seen many run it so far) and basic support skills as well as good damage dealing capabilities.
  
  Would either of these work better for what I'm trying to do?
  
  

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,742 Arc User

  September 2018 edited September 2018

  Oh.. that's why I missed the blast; it was in the place that the end builder normally goes.
  
  You can't actually replace the end builder like that in-game, though, so you'd have to cut one of the other powers to keep the blast in for the builds.
  
  If you want to be more of a dps w/ some support on the side, then that's okay. You won't be as valuable in end-game content, but as long as you at least give a decent AoED aura and generally don't die, that's still pretty good :x
  Problem is.. all ally auras scale w/ Pres, and if you take a dmg form like Chilled Form that doesn't use Pres, then you are splitting your stats and weakening the ally aura.
  
  So, I dunno what direction to go here. To a degree, you will have to pick between more support over more personal dps. Thing is, Supports usually don't do much personal dps, cause there's too many factors working against that (lower role dmg bonus, 10% final dmg penalty, no 25% dps role multiplier, etc). Usually, the best way to do relatively high personal dps as a Support is w/ an AoED + pet array build, but ofc pets are problematic for much of high-end content.
  
  So.. maybe try a AoED Support build w/ Compassion and Pres stacking (+Sentinel Aura to easily stack Compassion in combat), but use stuff like Ego PSS and decent dps debuffs, and keep a more basic support array (an ally heal and an ally res)? Could work pretty well:
  
  https://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=30&n=&d=15630GONVMSR000000M000MA03MF00MH00MG03MJ0XMa0CMZ03OI04K505ML03KB01ER00KF040tH51lpH0DnO600000000&e=
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Ego (Primary)
  Level 10: Presence (Secondary)
  Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Hero (Str: 8, Dex: 8, Con: 8, Int: 8, Ego: 8, Pre: 8, Rec: 6, End: 6)
  Level 6: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 9: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
  Level 12: Showmanship (Ego: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 15: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
  Level 18: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
  Level 21: Academics (Int: 5, Ego: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Eldritch Bolts
  Level 1: Aura of Ebon Destruction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 6: Compassion
  Level 8: Conjuring
  Level 11: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 14: Skarn's Bane (Rank 2, Trance)
  Level 17: Hex of Suffering (Rune of Lethargy, Rune of Dismay)
  Level 20: Soul Beam (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 23: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Guide)
  Level 26: Conviction (Rank 2, Reverence)
  Level 29: Arcane Vitality (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 32: Redemption (Rank 2)
  Level 35: Masterful Dodge
  Level 38: Ascension (Judgment)
  Adv. Points: 34/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
  Ego: Insight (3/3)
  Ego: Follow Through (2/3)
  Ego: Sixth Sense (3/3)
  Sentinel: Caregiver (2/3)
  Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
  Sentinel: Moment of Need (2/3)
  Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
  Sentinel: Genesis (1/2)
  Overseer: Administer (3/3)
  Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
  Overseer: Impact (2/2)
  Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
  Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
  
  Wisp's Guide combos pretty nicely w/ Ascension's adv for burst healing and dmg (and Illum will further boost Soul Beam's dmg by being an Enchantment). Should be able to do some dps w/ minor healing and AoE control, boost ally dmg pretty well, and still have the potential to help save allies through rough patches. Gears mostly for Pres, w/ some Con and Ego.

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