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  • kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User
    deadman20 said:

    So a frog statue was discovered in a pool, definitely out of place.

    Just a heads up that it's been there since before the Qzone. I have poked at it quite a bit because old content/missions are not outside of the scope of possibility - see Sammie - but still worth mentioning.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,915 Arc User
    yeah, I'm pretty sure that was discussed a few pages back. It's possible it's been there ever since Vibora was first added to the game.
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  • grievehartgrievehart Posts: 192 Arc User
    Beanie, Needle, Smokey, and Vinnie. And possibly Rex and Amber.

    Maybe each of them is a clue refering to something you have to possess to trigger the next step.
    For example, i realised only yesterday "Smokey" is a in game perk (an easy one to get moreover: defeat 10 blazing nems minions).

    Maybe once all conditions are reunited, we can trigger something.
    What could be these conditions ? For now, we know it can be Perks, items, devices, unbound Action figures.
    So we should try to find a link between each of them to in game item, device, perk or AF.
    Check what you have in all these categories and see if you can make a connection.

    Another thing.
    Maybe ren cen pets location is not random and have a link to where or how find items or things requiered for triggers.
    I explain:
    Needle and Beanie are in Auction Hall.
    Vinnie is in Caprice, on the bar.
    Smokey is on a table surrounded by destructible chairs in ren cen.
    I previously stated there's a "Smokey" perk when you defeat blazing nems. And what is the most common well known method to make nems minions pops ? Destroying chairs and taking orbs.
    Smokey is exactly near what's necessary to get the "smokey" perk.
    Maybe it's a coincidence but maybe it's not.


    I also noticed Beanie has a red cloth piece around is neck.
    Anybody knows the name of that cloth piece , if it is an available item in game, and where to find it ?
  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 697 Arc User
    The cloth piece looks like a neckerchief that was obtainable from the High Noon event to me.​​
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  • grievehartgrievehart Posts: 192 Arc User

    The cloth piece looks like a neckerchief that was obtainable from the High Noon event to me.​​

    Ok, so i suppose bound on pickup in event shop, and sellable at auction if dropped from boss.
    I think kaiserin said somewhere there was nothing very rare used for triggers.
    What was the drop rate for that neckerchief ? How rare is it ?
  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 697 Arc User
    Not sure about the rarity tbh but I think some people got it to drop *fairly well* ?​​
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  • chaosdrgnz43chaosdrgnz43 Posts: 1,674 Arc User
    iirc Kerchief is a rare(blue) item. Just like Heavy Chains.
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  • heartstringsk3heartstringsk3 Posts: 149 Arc User
    Anyone think the Terror Fenny figure might be needed for anything? It's super-rare, and I want to claim it, but there's a part of me that's paranoid I'll need it later! Or is it rare enough that it's probably not going to be used?
  • lezard21lezard21 Posts: 1,510 Arc User
    No way to know \o/
    The sovereign sons hat also is kinda rare despite being a blue drop and it's a creepy related item
  • championsrperchampionsrper Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2018
    So can anyone determine for certain whether this abandoned looking HotDog Vendor Cart has always been in the Ren Center? (There's no vendor NPC, that's just Alto standing there with the costume device)
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    Its near the Auction House on the left side of the ramp.
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    Reason I bring it up is I noticed Kaiserin standing there around 9:30 am Server Time, 7/18/2018.
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    We just had a pretty big update with the subscription changes and Samurai Archetype and it was on a Tuesday instead of Thursday which was odd. Then there was another small bug fixing patch on Wednesday morning, and shortly after, kaiserin now standing around this hotdog cart? Almost like there's something Creepy going on with it and she's testing it? I dunno, what do you guys think? Hotdogs HAVE been a part of Creepies before. Didn't notice anything odd about the cart itself besides the lack of a vendor, and there's no interaction with having a Hotdog in inventory or eating one near it.
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  • atlassarnosianatlassarnosian Posts: 169 Arc User
    So can anyone determine for certain whether this abandoned looking HotDog Vendor Cart has always been in the Ren Center? (There's no vendor NPC, that's just Alto standing there with the costume device)

    That cart's always been there as far as I'm aware ever since they remodeled Ren Cen back out of beta. It's just a coincidence she's idled there because anyone can literally idle anywhere. And if you stroll around MC, you're bound to find other abandoned carts like that.

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  • atlassarnosianatlassarnosian Posts: 169 Arc User
    edited August 2018
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    As of yesterday, looks like Spiral's getting a face lift from what Kaiserin posted. Since this was posted on the Creepy channel on the Discord, I guess this indeed confirms he's a Creepy... 9 month after we've already found him...
    Looks to be this will be in line with the upcoming Save the Cats (or whatever it's named) update.
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  • yardbombyardbomb Posts: 6 Arc User
    I didn't read the entire thread, but if it hasn't been mentioned there's a Fenny plush doll in Carl's Gym (non-mission) in one of the hampers that awards the "Strange Encounter" title.
  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    yardbomb wrote: »
    I didn't read the entire thread, but if it hasn't been mentioned there's a Fenny plush doll in Carl's Gym (non-mission) in one of the hampers that awards the "Strange Encounter" title.
    That's a known one, it may be in another thread.
  • championsrperchampionsrper Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    Was looking around at the Creepys in the QWZ again and the one in the back up on the tower got spawn-stuck and didnt poof as the Fenny Doll, so I took the opportunity to take a closer look.

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    I noticed that, like the bear who was wearing the Sovereign Sons hat, this Fenny doll doesn't have a Wind Up Key in his back (seen on the right), unlike his Action Figure counterpart (seen on the left). Perhaps the reason he's lying lifeless on the ground? I have a bound Wind Up Key Aura that I tried equipping and holding in inventory, but nothing. Maybe we need to wait for Xmas for the costume unlock version?

    I also have a Fenny Plush unbound in my inventory which didn't appear to do anything and I tried equipping all my Fenny action figures (Plush, Nightmarish, Cartoon, Anniversary, and Animatronic).
  • heartstringsk3heartstringsk3 Posts: 149 Arc User
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    As of yesterday, looks like Spiral's getting a face lift from what Kaiserin posted. Since this was posted on the Creepy channel on the Discord, I guess this indeed confirms he's a Creepy... 9 month after we've already found him...
    Looks to be this will be in line with the upcoming Save the Cats (or whatever it's named) update.

    Hmm... kind of out there, but the facial markings kind of look like the Oni Slayer facepaint. Anyone try taking that to him? Or... I dunno, maybe Arcane Tattoos/Spinal Glow Tights?

  • sannia1sannia1 Posts: 86 Arc User
    I don't know if this is new.

    There is a non-interactable voodoo doll in the Vibora Bay Arcade. It's beside a "Champions The Game" machine two to the right of the one you put the token in. And it appears to be standing on a pile of coins/tokens.

    I seem to remember the "Champions the Game" machine having 3 screenshots, but now it has 4, the last of which being a Sovereign Son with a voodoo doll.
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  • biffsmackwellbiffsmackwell Posts: 4,739 Arc User
    Might be a reference to Sammy's dolls. You get arcade tokens for defeating them.
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  • lezard21lezard21 Posts: 1,510 Arc User
    fox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.gifNovember 11th will be officially 1 year since we found the last Creepiefox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.gif

    Maybe time to get a less cryptic hint pig-30.gif​​
  • pwestolemynamepwestolemyname Posts: 978 Arc User
    lezard21 wrote: »
    fox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.gifNovember 11th will be officially 1 year since we found the last Creepiefox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.giffox-1.gif

    Maybe time to get a less cryptic hint pig-30.gif​​

    How many does that make total that have been found?
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  • lezard21lezard21 Posts: 1,510 Arc User
    The 4 Original creepies from WZ
    Socrates
    Fenny
    Teddy Bear

    So 8/13​​
  • nbkxsnbkxs Posts: 766 Arc User
    Spiral is one, I'm pretty sure rex in caprice is one, the dino on the console beside Irwin, and the cat on the table back behind defender. Just don't know how to activate them.
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  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,091 Arc User
    Ugh... had new idea for Spiral, but don't wanna farm it. Action figure 15 (Gnasher) drops in UNITY, as does Action figure 11 (Electric Eel). Either one is somewhat plausible to interest a cat.
  • lezard21lezard21 Posts: 1,510 Arc User
    The cat Smokey is no longer there in Rencen. It has been replaced with an unnamed untargetable random new model cat.

    Maybe Smokey was a red herring and the ones actually related to a Creepie are Vinnie, Beanie and Needle.​​
  • you know...we just got a whole shitload of new cat-based AFs - has anyone tried using them?

    there has to be a reason for the sudden influx of cats across TWO events now besides kaiserin being a crazy cat lady​​
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  • lezard21lezard21 Posts: 1,510 Arc User
    The thing is, the Creepies were discovered 2 years ago, and according to Kaiserin they've all been readily available ever since.

    New AFs cannot be unlocks for Creepies since they didn't exist 2 years ago, though some clarification on this would be appreciated​​
  • grievehartgrievehart Posts: 192 Arc User
    Concerning the UNITY clue, i started to gather actions figures droppable in Unity missions. These AF are referenced under the UNITY series. Got 9 for now.
    There are 22 af. The list is here:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20130908034350/http://champions-online-wiki.com/wiki/UNITY_Action_Figures

    Several questions:

    -Has someone tried that already ?

    -Is that list complete ?

    -Are the figs 9,10,11,12,57,58,94 droppable now ?
    ( we know bound AF don't work for triggers, and according to the list, these figs were not droppable. It seems they are only obtainable as a BoP version in scr shop in ren cen currently. But i would like a confirmation noone ever dropped an unbound version of these ).

  • grievehartgrievehart Posts: 192 Arc User
    Just realized a little something.
    Probably just a coincidence but still amusing.
    Spiral is a curious name for a cat.
    AF #13 and #14 of UNITY series are obvious references to Men in Black agents J and K.
    In MiB movie of 1997, J and K were in search of a cat which was wearing a necklace with a powerfull jewel on it called "galaxy".
    Now if you go here
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxy
    or here
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galaxie

    you realize spiral is a kind of galaxy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_galaxy

    Maybe a coincidence. Or not.

    So If any of you has unbound #13 and #14 AF from unity series, make a little trip to VB to see if it unlocks something.

  • sannia1sannia1 Posts: 86 Arc User
    I tried #53, the Gadroon Mercenary, mostly because I'm familiar with the UNITY 2 missions, and it's always rewarded if you get a There and Bat Again. It didn't affect anything.

    I tried looking up "Spiral Cat" in a search engine. It returned an all female cosplay group out of Korea that likes to visit game developers.

    We know Kaiserin likes cosplay, and might even be a secret member of Spiral Cat, so the cat is probably a reference to that group. But, I think this lead is a dead end.
  • akaara1akaara1 Posts: 174 Arc User
    Is there a spiral anyplace in the game? Not the cat.
  • sannia1sannia1 Posts: 86 Arc User
    Another thing to mention. The angel statue in front of the High Apostlic Church blinks once in a while. I think it's a bug, not a clue, but am just trying to reignite the dream.
  • horripilantehorripilante Posts: 320 Arc User
    Anyone has tried to party-bomb or scare-bomb other players/mobs near said statue.
    I know you cannot interact with it normally
  • atlassarnosianatlassarnosian Posts: 169 Arc User
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    Also happy 1 year (+ a week) anniversary of not finding anything
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    Hey, I resemble that remark.
  • monaahirumonaahiru Posts: 3,073 Arc User
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    Does this make any sense somewhere? o3o
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,915 Arc User
    Well, several of the creepy things HAVE been in the game for years but got changed by Kais. Like that Voodoo doll quest that sometimes gives you arcade coins... and the arcade itself.
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  • flagpole#4268 flagpole Posts: 38 Arc User
    Does anyone know if maybe the Nightmare Colossus on the QWZ has anything to do with creepies? Maybe he drops something rare that can trigger something? I know people dismiss that boss since he doesn't drop anything worth while but maybe?
  • atlassarnosianatlassarnosian Posts: 169 Arc User
    Does anyone know if maybe the Nightmare Colossus on the QWZ has anything to do with creepies? Maybe he drops something rare that can trigger something? I know people dismiss that boss since he doesn't drop anything worth while but maybe?

    As far as anyone knows, it's completely worthless, and it doesn't any ties to the clues that we're left with.
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  • xparibaxxparibax Posts: 149 Arc User
    Late to the party, but: the tip jar on the piano player in the steam boat has been there for at least 5 years, the creepy VB cemetary statue has always blinked- I've never been sure if its a graphics bug or deliberate, the evil book in the VB apocalypse opens and closes its eyes the same way when you get near.

    I don't know if this pertains to a Creepy but it was odd, and I know the found creepies tend to be in open areas anyone can get to. I found it leveling up in the defender contest in April and had a friend come check it after.
    In the underground fighting ring, where the "save reluctant recruits" mission is, in westside [Not Carls the one with the two cobra lords posing outside] I went back in to do the "Save the mook from the locker escort" which is a charming little mission and get some screenshots. On the upper level just outside the door where you fight zaretti is a "interact" prompt by a pillar. It goes away if you stand by the fence, inside the door or go up by the ceiling. There isn't anything we could find below it that might trigger it as a glitch. It very consistently said it couldn't be used now. [I also discovered my screenshots are broken on this computer, which is irksome, but don't really pertain to the topic at hand :P]

    No one else seemed to know about it asking around, and the un-usable interact is still up there on other characters after I've cleared the place out. All I can think of it Creepy. Hope it helps :)

  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Posts: 4,915 Arc User
    there's no visible object? Usually you're interacting with something...
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  • xparibaxxparibax Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Nothing that we could see- just the area by the pillar. That's why I'm not sure if it's a glitch or we were missing something [ or its part of a creepy.] But we were both getting the same "unable to interact" prompt.
    I was with @Notonestepbackward that evening and we were mystified by it. Still can't figure it out- but I thought if it's part of the creepy chain I should say something. :) It's a small mission in there and most people don't seem to know you can get back in, if it's something it could have been overlooked easily enough.

  • the people here know you can get back in - there's actually a creepie interact in one of the laundry baskets, as i recall

    unless that was at carl's gym​​
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  • atlassarnosianatlassarnosian Posts: 169 Arc User
    the people here know you can get back in - there's actually a creepie interact in one of the laundry baskets, as i recall

    unless that was at carl's gym​​

    That is Carl's exclusively.
    As for the glitch in the Secret Underground Boxing Ring. That's just it, a glitch. There used to be a door there that you'd have to prompt to unlock it, but there's no door there at all.
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  • xparibaxxparibax Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Oh a door? I don't remember that at all. Well shoot, I was hoping I was helping. XD Thanks guys!
    Wait- they changed it some years back when you had to find the evidence in the laundry baskets and it kept moving places- that must have been it. Still I was hoping to wave a top hat at it and a monster jump out. XD

  • elusiveandrareelusiveandrare Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    So I found some graffiti on one of the big purple cranes in westside Im sure graffiti is probably common but i dont ever remember seeing this before and its next to one of the pearls your meant to find? I cant make it out but it looks like it says "ARG SAB" or "SAG SAB"? may not be anything...

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    sorry not sure how to post images

    actually has anyone investigated the graffiti and seen if theres some key words or letters?
  • qawsadaqawsada Posts: 737 Arc User
    It looks some normal gang tag. One hint I notice when it comes to some of the creepy in the past is if the image or texture themselves are high resolution/quality themselves, which meant they were recently updated. This is obvious when everything around them is still medium or low resolution/quality when they are made in 2009. Were these tags high quality in the image department?
  • elusiveandrareelusiveandrare Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2019
    yes it was i flew around westside to see if i had seen them before and all the graffiti i saw looked more a part of what it was on like there worn down and you can see the bricks underneath where as this looks so stark on the low quality models of the cranes could the ARG SAB be something about argent? since we have the cat talking about unity?
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    ARGent SABotage?
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  • atlassarnosianatlassarnosian Posts: 169 Arc User

    Yeah, that's literally just a graffiti mark that's been there since the beginning
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