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Looking for a off tank dps be a y weapons build inspired by hidan from Naruto shippuden

Hello build gurus,

I've been struggling to make a build based off of the Naruto character hidan. I've wanted to make a character who used the heavy weapons scythe from the bloodmoo event. I wanted to go regent route since the theme of hidan was regen. But I want this toon to be able to off tank or if possible main tank in cosmics and epic lairs. But it gets worse..i was hoping to dual role and go into a dps role if a off tank or tank was already present. The build doesn't have to be all heavy weapons though...and it doesn't have to be themed to the extreme. Can anyone help me?

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    kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User
    edited November 2017
    Here's a possible setup.

    Main points:
    - You get the toughness of wardicator+defiance for your cosmic main tanking needs
    - Lots of self heals + extra toughness from Ebon Void adv for offtanking
    - DPS passive for when you want to DPS....you won't be topping charts, but you'll deal plenty of damage and be really tough

    Rotation when main tanking and when DPSing:
    1. Will O Wisp to apply Clinging Flames
    2. Annihilate, Annihilate, Annihilate, Annihilate....etc
    3. Refresh Flames with Arc of Ruin every 10 secs

    Rotation when offtanking:
    1. Cast Will O Wisp into the middle of a mob group
    2. Arc of Ruin to apply Challenge on everyone
    3. Once you have aggro, block to build up stacks of Voracious Darkness (Ebon Void adv)....block once every 10 secs to refresh them
    4. Use Life Essence to heal yourself and re-apply Wisp
    5. When both of your active defenses are on cooldown, use Nanobots to refresh them

    Stats:
    500+ CON, 200-300 STR.....as a starting point you can go with 500 CON and 175 STR. Eventually you can farm up a separate set of gear for when you swap to your DPS passive with a lot more STR.

    HW MT/OT/DPS - Freeform
    v2.3.2-27

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: Superhuman (Str: 12, Con: 12)
    Level 6: Enduring (Con: 8)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 18: Paramilitary Training (Str: 3, Con: 3, Rec: 3, End: 3)
    Level 21: Tireless (Rec: 8)

    Powers
    Level 1: Bludgeon
    Level 1: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
    Level 6: Defiance
    Level 8: Ebon Void (Rank 2, Voracious Darkness)
    Level 11: Arc of Ruin (No Quarter, Wildfire, Challenge!)
    Level 14: Resurgence
    Level 17: Masterful Dodge
    Level 20: Annihilate (Rank 2, Scorching Blade, Challenge!)
    Level 23: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Ghost Fire)
    Level 26: Life Essence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
    Level 35: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 38: Nanobot Swarm
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Athletics (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Teleportation

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (3/3)
    Strength: Aggression (2/2)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)
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    jaazaniah1jaazaniah1 Posts: 5,431 Arc User
    No EU? Will Defiance be enough, especially since the relatively low Str won't give much for knocks? Maybe swap Thermal Reverb for Nanobots and add in a bit more End?
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    kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User

    No EU? Will Defiance be enough, especially since the relatively low Str won't give much for knocks? Maybe swap Thermal Reverb for Nanobots and add in a bit more End?

    I don't use EUs on Defiance tanks. The Might set is designed not to need an EU in general.

    But since this is a dual passive build, the idea of switching out Nanobots for Thermal Reverb is a good one for when he wants to DPS with WotW.

    I do not suggest taking more END. Even with Thermal which scales off of END. Instead, take more REC....because that scales all energy gains: EU, Defiance, Blocking, and Form. In builds that that get most of their energy from sources other than the EU, REC is the best stat for small-to-moderate investment.
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    Ty very much I'll go on test and give it a shot
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    Can this build be. Modified to 3 role. Tank, off tank and dps?
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    kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User

    Can this build be. Modified to 3 role. Tank, off tank and dps?

    It is built to cover those 3 roles. Offtank and Tank are both covered by the same set of powers.....just slightly different rotations. See my post which lists them. You could get a second set of gear for when you Offtank which has a lot more CON if you wanted to to, but that's not needed.
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    Ty for all the help
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    carrionbaggagecarrionbaggage Posts: 721 Community Moderator
    You could consider swapping Way of the Warrior with Unstoppable, which will provide an extra energy source while the build is in dps mode. Nanobot Swarm is definitely handy when you're cycling 2 Active Defenses; but you could also consider a threat wipe for that slot, if you're concerned about pulling threat with your Challenge attacks when you don't intend to tank.

    It was a pleasure meeting you in-game. When I recommended the forums, I didn't put it together that you already had some active build threads. Derp.
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    Hey Babbage we just did Edion las night u guided me to the place. Tyvm
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    Looks like I def made a friend ;)
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    wraith9thwraith9th Posts: 61 Arc User
    How would this build differ if there was no offtanking involved. Just a tank that deals really good damage.
    Also, could ebon void be scrapped in that case for a Fire Shield for thematic reasons?

    In-game: @Wraith_9th
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    kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User
    wraith9th said:

    How would this build differ if there was no offtanking involved. Just a tank that deals really good damage.

    It would have less self-heals. Good offtanks can keep themselves up without the attention of a healer and require minimal levels of threat generation.

    Good main tanks on the other hand can generate a lot of threat quickly but enjoy the full attention of at least 1 healer.

    So if you don't see a need to Offtank you can drop almost all the heals in favor of damage buffs or other synergies. Here's a possible path:
    Wisp > Thermal Reverb
    Life Essence > Hydra (or Flashfire if you don't have Hydra unlocked)
    Bountiful Chi > Lock N Load
    wraith9th said:

    Also, could ebon void be scrapped in that case for a Fire Shield for thematic reasons?

    Yes
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    wraith9thwraith9th Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    kamokami said:


    Wisp > Thermal Reverb
    Life Essence > Hydra (or Flashfire if you don't have Hydra unlocked)
    Bountiful Chi > Lock N Load

    How does this look, @kamokami ?

    HW MT/OT/DPS - Freeform
    v2.3.2-27

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: Superhuman (Str: 12, Con: 12)
    Level 6: Enduring (Con: 8)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 18: Paramilitary Training (Str: 3, Con: 3, Rec: 3, End: 3)
    Level 21: Tireless (Rec: 8)

    Powers
    Level 1: Bludgeon
    Level 1: Enrage (Endorphin Rush, Giant Growth)
    Level 6: Defiance
    Level 8: Fire Shield (Rank 2, Fiery Spirit)
    Level 11: Arc of Ruin (No Quarter, Wildfire)
    Level 14: Resurgence
    Level 17: Masterful Dodge
    Level 20: Annihilate (Rank 2, Scorching Blade)
    Level 23: Thermal Reverberation
    Level 26: Flashfire (Rank 2, Fan the Flames)
    Level 29: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Lock N Load (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 38: Sword Cyclone (Rank 2)
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Arcane Flight (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Teleportation

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (3/3)
    Strength: Aggression (2/2)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Modified Gear (2/2)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)


    The Sword Cyclone is in there for thematic reasons.
    Post edited by wraith9th on

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    Kami ty for the tips. I don't foresee myself main tanking just off tank and dps. I'm looking for a heavy weapons with a mix with hundred hands, clap, and i probably don't need breath of I have a power in hewvybweapo s that may donate same. Cs u help me in a new build? If I won't rely on a healer I'm guessing I'll need invul and sentinel tree? I'm still really new tongue game overall and just wanna try to make a toon like hidan from Naruto shippuden from the akatsuki. Or kenshiro frommfist of the North star. So u can see the 2 toons im trying to make my off tank dps toon off of.
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    I will also have 2 sets of gear. 1 for tank and 1 for dps
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