Fire Tank Build changes

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,858 Arc User

  June 2017

  Hurl and unranked Shuriken Storm don't seem to be adding much here. You somehow also listed two EUs, and no slotted passives, and you don't have many defenses for a tank. Here's a more standard Fire tank:
  
  (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
  v2.2.3-24
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
  Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
  Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Chiller (Con: 10, End: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8)
  Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
  Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
  Level 12: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
  Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 18: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Throw Fire
  Level 1: Fireball (Rank 2, Unstable Accelerant, Challenge!)
  Level 6: Thermal Reverberation
  Level 8: Defiance
  Level 11: Chilled Form
  Level 14: Conflagration (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
  Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Incendiary Grenade (Rank 2, No Quarter, Challenge!)
  Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
  Level 26: Fire Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 29: Masterful Dodge
  Level 32: Imbue (Rank 2)
  Level 35: Circle of Primal Dominion (Rank 2)
  Level 38:
  Adv. Points: 29/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Constitution: Unyielding (1/2)
  Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
  Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
  Constitution: Adrenaline Rush (2/2)
  Constitution: Armored (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
  Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
  Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
  Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (2/3)
  Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
  Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)
  
  Last 1-2 powers can be w/e ya want. Gears mostly for Con and some Dex.

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• blazer2001 Posts: 109 Arc User

  December 2017

  I've made some changes with the recent fire power changes, could you please tell me what you think of it? @flowcyto , thanks!
  
  (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
  v2.3.2-27
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
  Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
  Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Chiller (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
  Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
  Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
  Level 12: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
  Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 18: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Throw Fire
  Level 1: Fireball (Rank 2, Unstable Accelerant)
  Level 6: Thermal Reverberation
  Level 8: Defiance
  Level 11: Fiery Will (Rank 2)
  Level 14: Conflagration (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
  Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Incendiary Grenade (Rank 2, Challenge!)
  Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
  Level 26: Fire Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 29: Masterful Dodge
  Level 32: Imbue (Rank 2)
  Level 35: Circle of Primal Dominion (Rank 2)
  Level 38: Pyre (Rank 2, Backdraft)
  Adv. Points: 32/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Constitution: Unyielding (1/2)
  Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
  Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
  Constitution: Adrenaline Rush (2/2)
  Constitution: Armored (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
  Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
  Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
  Vindicator: The Rush of Battle (2/3)
  Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
  Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)
  
  
  

  I'm the ruler of the fire power.

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,858 Arc User

  December 2017 edited December 2017

  Conflag is no longer the main attack to use practically everywhere for Fire. It can still be fine as an AoE, but now you want Incinerate for bosses. The main issue now is that Incin's optimal dmg takes 5 adv points, which precludes getting Challenge on it, but you can still tap another attack in between channels to apply Challenge that way. Incin also doesn't apply CF alone, but ofc you can work around that pretty easily.
  
  (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
  v2.3.2-27
  
  Super Stats
  Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
  Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
  Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)
  
  Talents
  Level 1: The Chiller (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
  Level 6: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 9: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
  Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
  Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
  Level 18: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
  Level 21: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
  
  Powers
  Level 1: Throw Fire
  Level 1: Fire Breath (Rank 2, Spitfire, Challenge!)
  Level 6: Fiery Will
  Level 8: Defiance
  Level 11: Fire Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 14: Thermal Reverberation
  Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 20: Fire Snake (Rank 2, Trail Blazer)
  Level 23: Incinerate (Rank 2, Rank 3, Burninator)
  Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
  Level 29: Flashfire (Fan the Flames, Challenge!)
  Level 32: Masterful Dodge
  Level 35: Circle of Primal Dominion (Rank 2, Rank 3)
  Level 38: Imbue
  Adv. Points: 32/36
  
  Travel Powers
  Level 6:
  Level 35:
  
  Specializations
  Constitution: Unyielding (1/2)
  Constitution: Fuel My Fire (3/3)
  Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
  Constitution: Adrenaline Rush (2/2)
  Constitution: Armored (2/2)
  Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
  Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
  Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
  Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
  Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
  Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
  Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
  Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
  Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)
  
  Should have enough End through talents for energy to be fine w/o SS'ing it (Defiance def helps there). Fire's new form scales w/ Rec, so that should prob be ur 2nd highest stat here, though Dex SS for the crits and threat boost is still nice. Firebreath won't be the highest AoE dmg for Fire, but it is good at applying CF (and Challenge between Incin channels for bosses) and is still pretty easy to farm trash with. Otherwise, keep Firesnake and Flashfire up for debuffs and toggle + EU procs.

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• pwestolemyname Posts: 978 Arc User

  December 2017

  I still prefer Ego/Dex/Con for my Fire Tank. The Force of Will Spec is nice when you stack CON. Then, the crit specs help for damage, which is more threat. And the Ego Mastery adds 20 to both your Con and Dex. With both Defiance and Thermal Reverb, energy should rarely be an issue.
  
  I didn't put Challenge on Incinerate. I put it on Flashfire and Fireball. Flashfire is especially nice since it is a half-second cast.
  
  The main issue with any kind of non-STR tank is knockback, of course. However, this is not really an issue with Cosmics, since you should be blocking when the KB hits, and for the rest of the game it is more an annoyance than a real danger.

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,858 Arc User

  December 2017

  If you don't mind the lack of passive knock resist (or can use something like CoPD) then sure, go for a diff PSS.

  <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
  - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!

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