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rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
I'm back after taking quite along break from Champs and I'm looking to do a new 2 gun Cowboy build Using Bullet Hail as my Aoe. Was thinking something along the line of The Saint Of Killers I've been really into season 2 of Preacher, was thinking maybe regen or invulnerability as the passive? Any help would be COOL!! Oh whats kill shot like as a power I did notice its melee, also is it viable to add those powers like pistol whip or rifle butt to a build that's manly ranged?

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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Here's a Pistols build w/ Invuln:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, End: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 18: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Gunslinger
    Level 1: Burst Shot (Taking Names, Off Your Feet)
    Level 6: Bullet Hail (Rank 2, Rank 3, Extra Bullets)
    Level 8: Concentration
    Level 11: Invulnerability (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Killer Instinct
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Two-Gun Mojo (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Trip Wire (Stim Pack)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Execution Shot (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Force Shield (Rank 2, Force Sheathe)
    Level 35: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Execution Shot isn't very practical as a melee attack, but if you want to use it for flair then you could maybe rope in a low-health enemy w/ Trip Wire and follow-up w/ it. Outside of that, its a pretty standard ranged Muni build. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Con and Rec.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    Thanks I'll try it out
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    I had one more build thought A might brick with some earth powers thats a grower using the giant growth advantage on the might power and the gadget power that lets you go big to. you know grow big like ant-mans big form or GIGANTA, COLOSSAL BOY, ATLAS, GOLIATH. I know there was devices that make you shrink or grow and as to the best of my memory they dont work in combat right?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    The magnifier device only works out of combat, yes.

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Hero (End: 6, Rec: 6, Other Stats: 8)
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 9: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 12: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 15: Body and Mind (Str: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Wield Earth
    Level 1: Tremor (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Unstoppable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Enrage (Endorphin Rush, Giant Growth)
    Level 11: Mighty Leap
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Demolish (Rank 2, Below the Belt)
    Level 23: Haymaker (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Stone Shroud (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Miniaturization Drive (Rank 2, Reciprocating Gizmo)
    Level 35: Aggressor (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 32/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Strength: Overpower (1/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Uses Earth mostly for ranged and AoE w/ Tremor. Demolish and/or Haymaker are for single-target dps. Gears mostly for Str, w/ some Con and Int + Rec.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    I know I'm jumping all over the place here but do you have a chain user build using the infernal power set?
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    for leveling this will be a new character
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Here's an Infernal chains build:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, End: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Infernal Bolts
    Level 1: Lash (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Supernatural Power
    Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Aspect of the Infernal
    Level 14: Vicious Cyclone (Rank 2, Vortex Technique)
    Level 17: Life Essence (Rank 2, Infernal Bond)
    Level 20: Will-o'-the-Wisp (Guide, Ghost Fire)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Vile Lariat (Fester, Work Up)
    Level 29: Voodoo Doll (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Crippling Coils (Light Everlasting, Nailed to the Ground)
    Level 35: Imbue (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Lash is the main filler attack and the Wisp puts up some nice debuffs. Vicious Cyclone is for AoE and some CC. Vile Lariat can heal you, knock, and put up a good debuff in Fester (if charged). Crip Coils can CC, grant a small heal, and disable flying enemies. Life Essence can be ur filler self-heal that can also heal nearby allies. Your dps won't be too strong here, but general extra utility (CC, extra heals, debuffs) is decent and can help make up for that. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Con and Rec/End.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    So I'm going thru all my alt characters and I've got a few in the 20-30 level range sitting in the power house with no powers but I'm keeping them cause I like there costumes. So this brings me to trying a theme build melee ranged build using single sword and archery and maybe some summoned pet? like a Ranger from D&D if anyone has played it.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Here's a mix of SB, Archery, and a pet:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Specialist (Con: 10, Dex: 10, Int: 8, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 9: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 12: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 15: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Strafe
    Level 1: Reaper's Caress (Rank 2, Cleaving Strikes)
    Level 6: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Form of the Tempest
    Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Torrent of Arrows (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Storm of Arrows (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Reaper's Embrace (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Chained Kunai (Open Wound, Inner Peace)
    Level 32: Parry (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Ritual of Primal Summoning (Unbound Ritual)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Dexterity: Combat Training (2/3)
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

    A diff pet can be chosen, if you want. Gears mostly for Dex, but try to get Int to ~220 to max out Audacity for Quarry, and some Con for extra health.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    sorry was watching a movie earlier now i got a new character idea in my head a heavy weapons guy is it possible doing a dps but taking defiance for his passive?
  • superalfgornsuperalfgorn Posts: 558 Arc User
    Something like this?

    STR+guardicator loop for Offense/Defense, Enrage as a form, Arc of Ruin for Debuff and Annihilate as nice single target dps.

    The last two powers are just for show, they can be anything really....

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Dexterity (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Blade (End: 8, Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 9: Paramilitary Training (Str: 3, Con: 3, Rec: 3, End: 3)
    Level 12: Survival Training (Dex: 3, Con: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
    Level 15: Field Ops Training (Con: 3, Int: 3, Ego: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)
    Level 18: Jack of All Trades (All: 2)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Throw Fire (Fuel My Fire)
    Level 1: Cleave (Rank 2, Rampant)
    Level 6: Defiance
    Level 8: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
    Level 11: Mighty Leap (Bull Rush, Nailed to the Ground)
    Level 14: Arc of Ruin (No Quarter, Wildfire)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Annihilate (Rank 2, Scorching Blade)
    Level 23: Flashfire
    Level 26: Thermal Reverberation
    Level 29: Aggressor (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2, Evanescent Emergence)
    Level 35: Fissure (Rank 2, Reconstruct)
    Level 38: Stone Shroud
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Flight (Rank 2)
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (3/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Initiative (2/2)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    I normally wouldn't pick Defiance for a non-tank (at least, for group content), but I suppose Cleave's Defensive Stance special adv can keep Defiance stacks rolling if ur not getting hit for long periods cause someone else is tanking. I'd also change Initiative for Focused Strikes if using Annihilate.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • superalfgornsuperalfgorn Posts: 558 Arc User
    Yes, this might actually be one of the few builds where you want to rank up defiance. But nonetheless Defiance is not great if you are not tanking....
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    my above post didnt go properly so here it is again.
    My main problem is i have a character that I love his costume. I keep going back to him every once in awhile, he's one of my 1st ones i did were i wasn't copying someone I saw in game or from a comic book (at least I don't think I did), but I've had a hard time pinning down what i want his powers to be, I've tried single sword, single sword archery, infernal claws, and might I still haven't found what I want his powers to be his background is hes the mortal Avatar for an Arch Fey a being from the feywild courts of Titania, the Summer Queen and her consort Oberon, the Green Lord, Hyrsam the Grey broke the rules when he convinced a mortal to allow him to occupy his body. Pic here
    https://image.ibb.co/jOxZuF/Costume_Kain607_Hyrsam_The_Grey_CC_Comic_Page_Blue_472481718.jpg



  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Maybe a mix of Archery and Bestial? Or does he have a bit of a shadiness too him that justifies some corruption (ie. Darkness or Infernal)? I dunno man, I'm not usually here to help people finalize the theme surrounding a toon.

    Or maybe go even more basic: do you want him being ranged or melee? Any primary role in mind?
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    that's the thing i cant think of what i wanna do for his powers that ok tho pulled up another of my guys just siting there hes a robot monkey i currently have him going PA with the dual wrist rockets and micro munitions but i have 3 different pa guys already was thinking a might dps build using powers like shockwave or havok stomp powers that looks like the person is throwing a tantrum
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    also this build you did is it better to do as is or would there be more damage running it with quarry and SS INT?
    i have my main 40th lvl that uses a similar build and just wanna have him up dated. Your build is below
    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, End: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 18: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Power Bolts
    Level 1: Mini Gun (Rank 2, U-238 Rounds, Infrared Guidance System)
    Level 6: Concentration
    Level 8: Overdrive
    Level 11: Targeting Computer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Micro Munitions (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Reconstruction Circuits (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Dual Wrist Rocket Barrage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Force Shield (Rank 2, Force Sheathe)
    Level 29: Circle of Arcane Power (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Fire All Weapons (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Targeting Comp will add a bit more more dps than Quarry + Int for any Ranged Tech build.
    rykus83 said:

    that's the thing i cant think of what i wanna do for his powers that ok tho pulled up another of my guys just siting there hes a robot monkey i currently have him going PA with the dual wrist rockets and micro munitions but i have 3 different pa guys already was thinking a might dps build using powers like shockwave or havok stomp powers that looks like the person is throwing a tantrum

    Here's a build for throwing a tantrum:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Hero (Str: 8, Dex: 8, Con: 8, Int: 8, Ego: 8, Pre: 8, Rec: 6, End: 6)
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 9: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 12: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 15: Body and Mind (Str: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Wield Earth
    Level 1: Onslaught (Rank 2, Excessive Force)
    Level 6: Unstoppable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
    Level 11: Pounce (Furious Rush)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Shockwave (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Demolish (Rank 2, Below the Belt)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Fissure (Reconstruct)
    Level 32: Stone Shroud (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Rebirth
    Level 38: Unleashed Rage (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Strength: Overpower (1/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Onslaught isn't that great, but it seemed thematic and can still fill the role of a filler attack (Beatdown could be good.. if it innately proced Enrage). Demolish is ur heavy-hitter and is for debuffing (could be Haymaker instead, of ur not tired of it). I decided to get Fissure over Havoc Stomp since you already have SWave for AoE. Gears mostly for Str, w/ some Con and Int (for MSA) and/or Rec (for Unstoppable energy). Can also get Giant Growth on Enrage, if you want the aesthetic.
    <CO stuff> .: Petco :. // A basic FF building guide (see 1st reply) // PSA on Power Activation Delay // Ayonachan's Gift Horse (misc stat data)
    - Be safe and have fun, champs - for science!
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    ok I've got 5 more builds and that should be it cause that's the last of my 20th-30ish level guys I had sitting there. 1. a darkness power set guy with what ever powers and role, 2. Martial Arts combo of kicks and punches maybe a dodge tank ive never done one before, 3. Gadgets and pets none of the animal ones just ones that look tech like, 4. ice powers in what ever role, 5. sorcery or celestial support role, I've done really next to nothing in those 2 power sets
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Darkness dps:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, End: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 18: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Shadow Bolt
    Level 1: Shadow Blast (Rank 2, Psychotic Break)
    Level 6: Spirit Reverberation
    Level 8: Shadow Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Concentration
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Soul Vortex (Rank 2, Soul Drain)
    Level 20: Ebon Ruin (Rank 2, Rank 3, Nyctophobia)
    Level 23: Lifedrain (Rank 2, Vampiric Sympathy)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Ebon Void (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Imbue
    Level 35: Rebirth
    Level 38:
    Adv. Points: 29/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Last power can be w/e. Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Con and Rec/End.

    -

    Unarmed Dodge-tank:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Constitution (Primary)
    Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
    Level 15: Strength (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Master (Con: 10, Str: 10, Dex: 10, Rec: 8)
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 9: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 12: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 15: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Righteous Fists
    Level 1: Thundering Kicks (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
    Level 6: Steadfast
    Level 8: Lightning Reflexes (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Form of the Tempest
    Level 14: Bountiful Chi Resurgence (Rank 2, Resurgent Reiki)
    Level 17: Shuriken Storm (Rank 2, Floating Butterfly, Challenge!)
    Level 20: Dragon Uppercut (Rank 2, Rank 3, Challenge!)
    Level 23: Thunderbolt Lunge (Nailed to the Ground)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Masterful Dodge
    Level 32: Parry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Imbue
    Level 38: Circle of Primal Dominion (Rank 2)
    Adv. Points: 33/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Constitution: Unyielding (1/2)
    Constitution: Fuel My Fire (2/3)
    Constitution: Resilient (2/2)
    Constitution: Deflection (3/3)
    Constitution: Adrenaline Rush (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Elusive (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Constitution Mastery (1/1)

    Either Con's or Warden Mastery can be good here. Gears mostly for Con and some Dex.

    -

    Gadgets + pets hybrid-dps:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Presence (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Witch (Con: 10, Int: 8, Pre: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 9: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Particle Rifle
    Level 1: Pulse Beam Rifle (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Concentration
    Level 8: Aura of Ebon Destruction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Sonic Boom Generator (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Thunderstrike (Recharge)
    Level 23: Support Drones (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Attack Toys (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Munitions Bots
    Level 32: Arcane Vitality (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Energy Shield (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Mechanical Monstrosity (Rank 2)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
    Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
    Presence: Moment of Glory (3/3)
    Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Commander: Evasive Action (1/2)
    Commander: Rapid Response (2/2)
    Commander: Create An Opening (2/2)
    Commander: Multitasker (3/3)
    Commander: Durable (1/3)
    Commander: Savage (1/3)
    Mastery: Commander Mastery (1/1)

    TStrike helps proc MSA from long-range (and has the new self-heal adv). Gears mostly for Int and some Con.

    -

    Ice dps:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Ego (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Scourge (Con: 10, End: 8, Ego: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Daredevil (Ego: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Ice Shards
    Level 1: Ice Blast (Hard Frost, Frost Bite)
    Level 6: Ice Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Chilled Form
    Level 11: Icy Embrace
    Level 14: Frost Breath (Rank 2, Frost Bite)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Icicle Spear (Rank 2, Rank 3, Freezer Burn)
    Level 23: Avalanche (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Ice Shield (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Ice Sheath (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Rebirth
    Level 38:
    Adv. Points: 31/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
    Ego: Insight (3/3)
    Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
    Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

    Last power can be w/e. Puts up 3x Chill and Hard Frost w/ Frost Breath taps and Ice Blast, then uses Ice Spear charges as its main ST dps attack (taping Ice Blast can refresh debuffs). Gears mostly for Ego, w/ some Con and End.

    -

    Celestial Support:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.2.3-24

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Presence (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Witch (Con: 10, Int: 8, Pre: 10, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 9: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 15: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 18: Finesse (Dex: 5, Pre: 5)
    Level 21: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Radiance
    Level 1: Rebuke (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Compassion
    Level 8: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 20: Iniquity (Rank 2, Justice)
    Level 23: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
    Level 26: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Rebirth
    Level 32: Protection Field (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Masterful Dodge
    Level 38: Ascension (Rank 2)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
    Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
    Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
    Presence: Force of Will (1/2)
    Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
    Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
    Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
    Sentinel: Moment of Need (2/3)
    Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
    Overseer: Administer (3/3)
    Overseer: Impact (2/2)
    Overseer: Honor (2/2)
    Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
    Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

    Rebuke is for long-ranged healing and dps; Iniquity can handle up-close healing (has quite higher hps). Conviction is ur main self-heal and can proc MSA. Can use Charged Vengeance to proc spec-related debuffs (Vuln, Wither, Trapped, Sent Mastery) when not actively healing. Gears mostly for Pres, w/ some Con and Int. Other slotted passives like AoPM, AoRP, or Med Nanites can be chosen based on ur preferences.
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  • prestochangoprestochango Posts: 196 Arc User
    Phew I'm tired just reading all these. Great job as usual, Flow!
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Thanks, but to be fair, most of the post is just cut and pasted from the build editor. I gave pretty safe/standard builds since he asked for so many, but any of them could be tweaked differently if desired.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    i was relooking at superalfgorn HW build he posted and it made me change my mind for the character concept I had now I'm thinking HW with the powers that do extra fire damage like brimstone, earth splitter, eruption, vicious decent. Not necessarily those exact ones, running unstoppable.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Well, HW's best ST dps comes form a Crushing-only attack (Annihilate), but Skullcrusher can be a decent alternative, so it prob wouldn't be much diff than a normal HW dps build that I'd suggest:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Devastator (Str: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
    Level 6: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Bludgeon
    Level 1: Eruption (Magma Burst)
    Level 6: Unstoppable (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
    Level 11: Thermal Reverberation
    Level 14: Arc of Ruin (No Quarter, Wildfire)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Skullcrusher (Rank 2, Rank 3, Put Them Down)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Guard (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Aggressor (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Vicious Descent (Relentless, Work Up)
    Level 35: Earth Splitter (Bend the Earth)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 33/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Strength: Overpower (1/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    You can replace Arc or Ruin w/ Brimstone w/ adv, though that does mean losing Arc's No Quarter debuff. Earthsplitter isn't strictly needed to a HW build but it can provide extra some utility/offense from range. Gears mostly for Str, w/ some Con and End/Rec.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    would cleave with its chance of clinging flame be useful in this build?
  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    I also got a question how is martial arts fighting claws i've played CO off and on sense the 1st halloween event and i've never liked fighting claws because it was always single target powers is it still the same? beside the sweep kick attack.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    rykus83 said:

    would cleave with its chance of clinging flame be useful in this build?

    Nah, you have Eruption w/ adv to quickly put up CF (and Arc's adv can easily refresh it). No need to take Cleave just for that.
    rykus83 said:

    I also got a question how is martial arts fighting claws i've played CO off and on sense the 1st halloween event and i've never liked fighting claws because it was always single target powers is it still the same? beside the sweep kick attack.

    FClaws is pretty much the same its always been: heavy single-target dmg, but limited AoE options. I usually just use Shuriken Storm, EotS, or Sword Cyclone as AoE for FC builds. Though you could rely on VFang's cone-based AoE, melee cone AoEs have more limited reach.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    hey flowcyto could you whip up a ranged TK build in the dps role. Please and Thank You. =)
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Okay:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Recovery (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Chiller (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
    Level 6: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 9: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 12: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 18: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Kinetic Darts
    Level 1: Telekinetic Strike (Rank 2, Stressed Out)
    Level 6: Mental Precision
    Level 8: Ego Form (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Telekinetic Reverberation
    Level 14: Telekinetic Barrage (Rank 2, Dazzle)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Telekinetic Lance (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Telekinetic Maelstrom (Rank 2, Inner Peace)
    Level 29: Telekinetic Shield (Rank 2, Telekinetic Reinforcement)
    Level 32: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
    Level 35: Rebirth
    Level 38:
    Adv. Points: 31/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

    Last power can be w/e. Gears mostly for Dex, w/ some Con and Rec.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    I'm nearing 40th with my MA dodge tank and i going to stop wearing my leveling heirloom gear I know you said gear mostly Con and some Dex, but what cores should i use standard gamblers or use parkour for its dodge and knock back, to, up, or use the soviets guardian's resolution for crit and crit severity? and I've noticed there's several utility cores that increase damage to certain powers like lasersword, munitions, HW, Might, Fire and so on but ive not seen one for MA is there one?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    I don't think there's an MA-specific dmg core yet.

    Modding kinda depends on ur priorities. For dps and threat gen, its hard to go wrong w/ crit and/or severity. Bonus heal mods can boost survival a bit when combined w/ self-heals. Dodge rating is also good for dodge-based tanks (if using R3 LR, then forgo avoidance rating since the passive puts you heavy into its DR), but general maxHP boosts can also be good. CD reduction is nice for utility, assuming ur not having many energy issues and are using cd-based heals and/or ADs.
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  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,022 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    rykus83 wrote: »
    and I've noticed there's several utility cores that increase damage to certain powers like lasersword, munitions, HW, Might, Fire and so on but ive not seen one for MA is there one?
    flowcyto wrote: »
    I don't think there's an MA-specific dmg core yet.

    Left Eye of the Ruby Dragon

    RARE drop from the alert Fury of the Dragon
    It increase damage of all 4 MA powerframes (Dual Blades, Single Blade, Unarmed & Fighting Claws)
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    Flow on your TK build i was wondering which would be the better power to get for the last power slot the ultimate mental impact or medusa's lance rain either one I'd have to farm to get just was wondering which to spend the time to get?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    I'd prob get Mental Impact as the ult, since it has some burst dps, CC, and applies the Overpower debuff for team dps.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    I saw the growth build you do with a combo of earth and might what would a moslty bestial supernatural using the Miniaturization Drive (Rank 2, Reciprocating Gizmo) be like and which would get the longest use out of the mini drive?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Mini Drive is on a cd that's prob gonna be longer than the uptime, and the dmg bonus is subject to DR (so its not great if ur a geared dps), but the size increase is fun I guess.

    You didn't really specify which attacks you want to use in Bestial, so I'll just give a Massacre build w/ Mini Drive:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Devastator (Str: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
    Level 6: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Infernal Bolts
    Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
    Level 6: Supernatural Power
    Level 8: Pestilence (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Lacerating Cyclone (Rank 2, Vortex Technique)
    Level 14: Enrage (Endorphin Rush)
    Level 17: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Pounce (Furious Rush)
    Level 23: Massacre (Rank 2, Bloody Mess)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Miniaturization Drive (Rank 2, Reciprocating Gizmo)
    Level 32: Aggressor (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Antagonize (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Strength: Overpower (1/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Puts up bleeds and Shredded w/ Shred, and then spams Massacre- refreshing debuffs w/ Shred. Gears mostly for Str, w/ some Con and Rec/End.

    If you wanted a short cd so Mini Drive's uptime is close to 100%, you'd prob need something like Int SS, Int gearing, cd reduction, AoAC and/or Rec PSS 2nd Wind (or Int PSS's Revitalize). None of these are at all ideal for Bestial dps, though, so I prob wouldn't worry about it and accept partial uptime on the cd.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    most of the builds i ask for are to compare them to my many different heroes i've not played in i think 2 years was the length of this time off i did, speaking of which i was looking at one of my old heroes and U'd like him back using force powerset i dont know if i want dps or tank role tho.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Well, if taking a dps route I'd prob use either Hybrid + AoPM, Quarry + Int SS, or Unstoppable + Rec SS for Force. For a tank, I'd take Defiance- or PFF if you want to ignore Con SS and get another energy SS.

    Power Source w/ Ionic Reverb and Elec Current's 3-pt adv is a newer option, since the last one fills up ur energy like an end builder, but then ur relying on Elec stuff to keep energy flowing.

    Here's an AoPM Force dps, as an example:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Glacier (Dex: 8, Con: 10, Int: 10, End: 10)
    Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Force Bolts
    Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Force Shield (Rank 2, Force Sheathe)
    Level 8: Aura of Primal Majesty (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Concentration
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 20: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Force Geyser (Nailed to the Ground)
    Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 29: Crushing Wave (Rank 2, Rank 3, Disruptive Force)
    Level 32: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Gravity Driver (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
    Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
    Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
    Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
    Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
    Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
    Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
    Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

    Uses the blast and Geyser when energy is low, and also throws in FC when energy is abundant. Gears mostly for Int, while AoPM boosts every stat a decent amount.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    how good is a grenade build going to be I thought I saw someone else start a post about it but couldn't find said post? was thinking maybe using mini mines to and break away or parting shot use the 2 if i get in melee drop mines and jump back maybe implosion engine also to pull the group together then throw in some grenades I have no idea what role would be best for said build.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    The basic issue w/ grenades or mines is that none of them are spammable, though you can fill up on a buncha cds and use a Crushing dmg filler attack like Tac Missiles (since it will be boosted by Crushing debuffs).

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Specialist (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Int: 8, Rec: 10)
    Level 6: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 9: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 12: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 15: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Gunslinger
    Level 1: Tactical Missiles (Rank 2, Blast Radius)
    Level 6: Concentration
    Level 8: Targeting Computer (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
    Level 17: Mini Mines (Wall of Fire, Stim Pack)
    Level 20: Frag Grenade (Rank 2, Cuts and Scrapes)
    Level 23: Incendiary Grenade (No Quarter)
    Level 26: Concussion Grenade (Rank 2, Stun Grenade)
    Level 29: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 32: Parting Shot (Predictable)
    Level 35: Energy Shield (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 32/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Power Swell (2/2)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
    Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
    Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (2/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

    Can also try Avenger + Vind specs w/ Preemptive Strike here. Gears mostly for Int, w/ some Con, and skips severity rating on gear after getting Dex Mastery.
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  • rykus83rykus83 Posts: 337 Arc User
    I was thinking on a supernatural claws build using mini drive w/gizmo for a kaiju like build i through one together I know its not done and probably not that good.
    Claws Giant Growth - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Cybernetic Warrior (Con: 10, Int: 10, Rec: 8, End: 10)
    Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
    Level 9: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Field Ops Training (Con: 3, Int: 3, Ego: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)

    Powers
    Level 1: Bestial Fury
    Level 1: Shred
    Level 6: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 8: Supernatural Power
    Level 11: Aspect of the Bestial
    Level 14: Frenzy (Poison Tipped Claws)
    Level 17: Thrash (Fester)
    Level 20: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 23: Miniaturization Drive (Reciprocating Gizmo)
    Level 26: Pounce (Nailed to the Ground)
    Level 29: Massacre
    Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 35:
    Level 38:
    Adv. Points: 18/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
    Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
    Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
    Intelligence: Tinkering (2/2)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Slaughter (2/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
    Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
    Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
    Brawler: Finishing Blow (2/3)
    Brawler: Flanking (3/3)
    Mastery: Warden Mastery (1/1)
  • avianosavianos Posts: 6,022 Arc User
    edited September 2017
    If you want to be a huge Kaiju, then why don't you use Aspect of the Bestial's Giant Growth?
    its a zero points cosmetic adv that on 8 stacks of enrage will help with your theme​​
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    Also, wouldn't you want a breath weapon of some sort? Could take Venom Breath in there for AoE:

    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.1-25

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Endurance (Secondary)
    Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: The Behemoth (Str: 10, Con: 10, Rec: 10, End: 8)
    Level 6: Physical Conditioning (Str: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
    Level 12: Bodybuilder (Str: 5, End: 5)
    Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Relentless (Str: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Bestial Fury
    Level 1: Shred (Rank 2, Penetrating Strikes)
    Level 6: Supernatural Power
    Level 8: Aspect of the Bestial (Giant Growth)
    Level 11: Regeneration (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 14: Venomous Breath (Rank 2, Paralytic Bile)
    Level 17: Thrash (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 20: Eviscerate (Rank 2, Messy)
    Level 23: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 26: Pounce (Furious Rush)
    Level 29: Miniaturization Drive (Rank 2, Reciprocating Gizmo)
    Level 32: Aggressor (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Antagonize (Rank 2)
    Level 38: Rebirth
    Adv. Points: 32/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6:
    Level 35:

    Specializations
    Strength: Swole (2/3)
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Juggernaut (2/3)
    Strength: Overpower (1/3)
    Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
    Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
    Warden: Upper Hand (2/3)
    Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)

    Uses Shred for bleeds and shredded, Trash as its main filler, and Evis taps to refresh debuffs. Gears mostly for Str, w/ some Con and Rec/End.
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  • meechinmeechin Posts: 25 Arc User
    Hey guys, i hope im not high jacking the thread, but how is that unarmed build played exactly? As far as aoe rotation and/or ST rotation. when to pop cds like imbue, md, and resurgence respectively? thank you for helping in advance.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 12,740 Arc User
    meechin said:

    Hey guys, i hope im not high jacking the thread, but how is that unarmed build played exactly? As far as aoe rotation and/or ST rotation. when to pop cds like imbue, md, and resurgence respectively? thank you for helping in advance.

    I assume you mean this:

    http://aesica.net/co/herocreator.htm?v=26&n=&d=13210abGA9PK000000E000E20ZEI00EA03B700EO05ET0bER03EG0GON01EP00EE03K600MS010d773T3B2MGB

    That's a formal tank build.

    Main AoE is just using Shuriken Storm. For bosses or tougher targets you use TKicks to put up its dodge buff every ~12 sec or so, and use charged Dragon Uppercut as ur main single-target dps/threat tool. Imbue is an AO, so you pop it when you want a bit more dps and threat gen, and/or to help break from a hold. Resurgence and Masterful Dodge are ADs, you use them defensively to counteract spike dmg (Resurgence is just a big heal used to recover from low health; MD guarantees you'll dodge each inc hit for the duration, so its better for when you anticipate high dmg inc). Can keep BCR running in the background for the extra healing regardless.
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