Let us customize nemesis henchmen!

hebruixe · July 2017

Please allow us to design a costume for each of our nemesis's 4 types of soldiers. Thanks for taking this into consideration.

A Fan

ashstorm1 · August 2017

hebruixe said:
Please allow us to design a costume for each of our nemesis's 4 types of soldiers. Thanks for taking this into consideration.

A Fan

Although i'd love to see that implemented, i'm not holding my breath here... The Nemesis system is about as good as abandoned, unfortunately

spinnytop · August 2017

gun toting magical cat girl minions

flyingfinn · August 2017

I think they'll start working on henchman customing after making working weapon skins for nemeses.

revanantmorituri · August 2017

I am all for this, as I have a certain, signature Nemesis who needs Prussian uniforms for his minions.

Realistically, this is less likely to get a proper update than the Onslought system.

flyingfinn · August 2017

Whats wrong with Onslaught system? Like really broken?

jaazaniah1 · August 2017

OVS works great, if you like collusion between players to be the main way of getting good end game gear.

flyingfinn · August 2017

So the only thing not working are the players. Which is the main reason of "this stuff is broken".

spinnytop · August 2017

flyingfinn said:
So the only thing not working are the players. Which is the main reason of "this stuff is broken".

It's more that players have no real motivation to really engage in the pvp aspect of the system. The "collusion" is really just people realizing that the most optimal way to play the system is a "I scratch your back you scratch mine" sort of system where everyone benefits. The players are working just fine and are doing exactly what one would expect of them, given the situation.

decorumfriends · August 2017

flyingfinn said:
I think they'll start working on henchman customing after making working weapon skins for nemeses.

So, the 27th of Never, then?

markhawkman · August 2017

decorumfriends said:

flyingfinn said:
I think they'll start working on henchman customing after making working weapon skins for nemeses.
So, the 27th of Never, then?

I'm not sure it's more than the 23rd...

roughbearmattach · August 2017

Let's customize nemesis henchmen instead of . . .

Dev time is a zero-sum game. Work on one project means no work on another. There are so many things I would rather see before this (such as the rework of each power set, lair revamps), that I think it would be pushed off into the indefinite future.

chaoswolf820 · August 2017

Lets customize Nemesis henchmen, fix Nem weapon skins, and add more Nem powersets... INSTEAD OF BELCHING OUT LOCKBOXES EVERY FEW WEEKS.

SERIOUSLY, IF THEY CAN SPEND TIME MAKING LOCKBOXES, THEY CAN SPEND TIME FIXING EXISTING GAME ASPECTS.

spinnytop · August 2017

chaoswolf820 said:
Lets customize Nemesis henchmen, fix Nem weapon skins, and add more Nem powersets... INSTEAD OF BELCHING OUT LOCKBOXES EVERY FEW WEEKS.

SERIOUSLY, IF THEY CAN SPEND TIME MAKING LOCKBOXES, THEY CAN SPEND TIME FIXING EXISTING GAME ASPECTS.

I have a weird feeling that producing a lock box doesn't take a lot of time. If you'd like them to spend the time it takes to produce a lockbox on the nemesis system instead then I'm sure they'd be happy to change the name of a henchman type or two for you.

jonesing4 · August 2017

Besides, while I don't like the delivery system, lockboxes usually have some cool costumes, power unlocks, travel powers/devices, etc. Would rather have those than a cosmetic change to an abandoned part of the game.

jonsills · August 2017

spinnytop said:

chaoswolf820 said:
Lets customize Nemesis henchmen, fix Nem weapon skins, and add more Nem powersets... INSTEAD OF BELCHING OUT LOCKBOXES EVERY FEW WEEKS.

SERIOUSLY, IF THEY CAN SPEND TIME MAKING LOCKBOXES, THEY CAN SPEND TIME FIXING EXISTING GAME ASPECTS.
I have a weird feeling that producing a lock box doesn't take a lot of time. If you'd like them to spend the time it takes to produce a lockbox on the nemesis system instead then I'm sure they'd be happy to change the name of a henchman type or two for you.

It isn't often that I find myself agreeing with Spinny, but there you go.

chaoswolf820 · August 2017

jonesing4 said:
Besides, while I don't like the delivery system, lockboxes usually have some cool costumes, power unlocks, travel powers/devices, etc. Would rather have those than a cosmetic change to an abandoned part of the game.

Lockboxes have all the cool costumes... on a ridiculously low droprate, so you spend as much money as you can to get them. So of course they're gonna make lots of those.

jonesing4 · August 2017

> @chaoswolf820 said:
>
> Lockboxes have all the cool costumes... on a ridiculously low droprate, so you spend as much money as you can to get them. So of course they're gonna make lots of those.

Didn't spend a dime to get Cybernetic, Futuristic, and Alien Armor in their entirety. *shrug*

Like I said, I don't love lockboxes, but businesses gotta make money. Cryptic keeps the lights on, and I get cool stuff.

flyingfinn · August 2017

Devs should take '6 months of fixing Nemesis System and doing nothing else'. Like they had once? few? years ago when they did 'few moths of fixing bugs and nothing else' period.
No /jk.

lanternjack · September 2017

A cheap and easy compromise until dev-time can be dedicated to the nemesis system may be to allow for more of the in-game enemy groups to be usable as nemesis minions, such as Viper or Foxbattlebots. The assets already exist so (I assume, I'm not a dev) it wouldn't be a major job to implement and players would have that much more variety available.

jebidiahbeetus · September 2017

lanternjack said:
A cheap and easy compromise until dev-time can be dedicated to the nemesis system may be to allow for more of the in-game enemy groups to be usable as nemesis minions, such as Viper or Foxbattlebots. The assets already exist so (I assume, I'm not a dev) it wouldn't be a major job to implement and players would have that much more variety available.

Agreed, i'd add Cobra Lords to my nemesis since they aren't in any of the alerts.

spinnytop · September 2017

lanternjack said:
it wouldn't be a major job to implement

I just love seeing people type this unironically.

wrathsoul1 · September 2017

So, I take it that the Nemesis system still hasn't been updated with the newest power sets and the same level of customization of player characters in ever, right?

Guess I'll stay as a cold turkey, then.

markhawkman · September 2017

Powers used by Nems have been tweaked. But the sets used by Nems are basically the same just with different values for the stats.

wrathsoul1 · September 2017

markhawkman said:
Powers used by Nems have been tweaked. But the sets used by Nems are basically the same just with different values for the stats.

But they still don't have access to the newer powersets like Wind and Heavy Weapons. That and you can't choose their weapon skin.

Well, last time I played, at least. Which is a long time ago.

markhawkman · September 2017

There's been a lot more stuff added .... That Nems don't have.

jaazaniah1 · September 2017

The devs have said on a variety of occasions that there are no plans to do anything with the Nemesis system. It just is what it is.

spinnytop · September 2017

jaazaniah1 said:
The devs have said on a variety of occasions that there are no plans to do anything with the Nemesis system. It just is what it is.

Won't stop anybody from continuing the make suggestions about it, and we all just need to accept that. Also, devs have changed their minds before. Still waiting for that dang crystal ball to come back from the shop...

mithrosnomore · September 2017

At this point I would settle for them just adding basic existing designs, as touched upon earlier.

Add "Biker Gang" minions using Cobra Lord skins, "Agent" skins using Viper models, "Power Armor" and/or "Cyborgs" using Argent, that sort of thing.

Put all existing groups into the nemesis system so that people could use Gadroon or PSI or whatever as nemesis minions.

Even without the official title of being Viper agents, if an RPer wants to work Viper into their personal story then they could make a nemesis or nemeses that use "Viper Agents" as henchmen.

But I won't be holding my breath.

jaazaniah1 · September 2017

Sure, people can suggest it, but they do need to be reminded what the devs have said about it. I'm now scratching my head (is there an emote for that?); when have the devs changed their minds on a big ticket project? I honestly can't think of one, but perhaps they have.

spinnytop said:

jaazaniah1 said:
The devs have said on a variety of occasions that there are no plans to do anything with the Nemesis system. It just is what it is.
Won't stop anybody from continuing the make suggestions about it, and we all just need to accept that. Also, devs have changed their minds before. Still waiting for that dang crystal ball to come back from the shop...

zamuelpwe · October 2017

One of the biggest issues with the original post is that it isn't four types of minions. It's six and only four are displayed. This actually leads into one of the biggest bugs of the Nemesis system (a bug that I feel that fixing would be a "killing two birds with one stone" type situation but I'll worry about that in another post). However, I have a bit of theory that despite all the holes in the Nemesis system, our not being able to create minions might be deliberate. I say this since some available Nemesis minions are partial or even complete rips of existing enemy groups but use different colors than the default. I get the feeling it's a non confusion setup considering others in the open world may have missions involving mainline enemies. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to create my own Nemesis minions. It's just that I feel part of it might be working as intended.

Let us customize nemesis henchmen!

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