Traveling in unfamiliar territory with a Celestial/Mind (pref Ego Blades) build

ikonn · March 2017

Here is the situation...

I normally play Champions with FF builds using Munitions (Dual Pistols) or Electrical. I do have a few other characters that use elements from other power sets, but this is really my first time using something even remotely classed as a healer/support build.

The current character I am working on is essentially an "angelic-themed" build. What I am trying to do is have basically a good team support healer, but adding in Ego blades for support DPS as well. That, and have it viable as a soloer as I do solo a lot. The problem I am running into is I really don't do number crunching in this game and have no idea how to continue with the plan I currently have. My issue is I am getting burned out with Munitions and Electrical builds as they are usually pretty squishy... even as FF builds. There is a trade off (at least in my experience) between DPS and surviveability. What I am trying for with this build is having a little bit of both. Is there any hope?

This is what I have setup stat-wise right now and would appreciate any input...

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Ego (Secondary)
Level 15: Intelligence (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Radiant (Int: 10, Ego: 10, Pre: 10, Rec: 8)
Level 6: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 9: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 15: Academics (Int: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 18: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Showmanship (Ego: 5, Pre: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Radiance
Level 1: Rebuke
Level 6: Compassion
Level 8: Expulse
Level 11: Illumination
Level 14: Seraphim
Level 17:
Level 20:
Level 23:
Level 26:
Level 29:
Level 32:
Level 35:
Level 38:
Adv. Points: 0/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Heroic Flight
Level 35: Teleportation

Specializations
Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
Presence: Grandeur (3/3)
Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
Presence: Force of Will (2/2)
Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Moment of Need (2/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Sentry: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Sentry: Precise (2/3)
Sentry: Sentry Aura (3/3)
Sentry: Persevere (2/2)
Mastery: Sentry Mastery (1/1)

One of my old L 40 munitions builds is in the process of getting an overhaul. The character is currently sitting in the Powerhouse with the above stats and I will hold off on making any additions/changes for now. I have done a bit of experimenting with Ego Blade and like to incorporate that power into the build (if anything) as a theme prop.

All I need is some advice on how to fill out the powers and what gear/mods I should be looking for... probably will get Merc gear for starters and will work from there during the course of gameplay. I am running short on Gs so I am in no rush to leave the PH until there is a viable setup. As this character sits in the PH, I can run my other characters and build up some currency to pay for respecs if necessary.

flowcyto · March 2017

Here's a Seraphim/Celestial healer w/ some TK Blades:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Presence (Primary)
Level 10: Intelligence (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Witch (Con: 10, Int: 8, Pre: 10, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 9: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
Level 12: Diplomatic (Int: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 15: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 18: Finesse (Dex: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 21: Coordinated (Dex: 5, Int: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Radiance
Level 1: Vengeance (Rank 2, Redemption Denied)
Level 6: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 8: Compassion
Level 11: Conviction (Rank 2, Reverence)
Level 14: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 17: Iniquity (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 20: Ego Weaponry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Vala's Light (Rank 2, Light Everlasting)
Level 26: Ego Blade Annihilation (Rank 2, Mental Acuity)
Level 29: Ego Sleep (Plagued by Nightmares)
Level 32: Mental Storm
Level 35: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
Level 38: Circle of Radiant Glory
Adv. Points: 34/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Presence: Repurpose (3/3)
Presence: Selfless Ally (2/2)
Presence: Moment of Glory (2/3)
Presence: Force of Will (1/2)
Presence: Vulnerability (2/2)
Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Moment of Need (2/3)
Sentinel: Wither (2/2)
Overseer: Administer (3/3)
Overseer: Ruthless (2/2)
Overseer: Impact (2/2)
Overseer: Trapped (3/3)
Mastery: Sentinel Mastery (1/1)

Expulse, Radiant_Ebon sigils, Rebuke (instead of non-Justice Iniquity), and Rebirth (instead of CoRG) are other spells that could work well for the build. Its personal dps won't be too great, but it should have good debuffing power for groups (can alternate between Sleep and MStorm for spec-related debuffs, or just spam charged Vengeance for AoE). Gears mostly for Pres and Con.

ikonn · March 2017

Thank you

I'll play around with that in the PH and see what happens when I get home from work.

CC isn't my thing in this game, but that build is definitely an experiment to learn from.

ikonn · March 2017

Update...

Tried the build and it really didn't work out for me. Going to try a more Radiant AT type of build. Still going to stay as much into the Celestial/Dimensional tree if possible.

Since what I am going for is essentially a support DPS/ Healer, is it safe to assume the best results would come from running in Hybrid mode or should I set to Ranged DPS mode and just stack up on Pre through gear?

Currently, this char had Heroic gear since it used to be a 2-gun toon before I respecced. Will that gear still be viable for the DPS role or should I go down a different path? Obviously, I'll have to throw in different mods. Con and Pre?

flowcyto · March 2017

Do you still want to try to incorporate TK blades? Cause even if they scale w/ Ego, they are still flagged as melee. Its generally easier to stay w/ full ranged attacks if you want to have some support or ally healing available.

Hybrid role allows you to use support auras to buff teammates, though not by nearly as much as the support role can do. What build backbone you take will lie more in how much you value extra dps vs. support and extra bonus healing. That's not really for me to answer.

pwestolemyname · March 2017

Go PRE/EGO/CON, then you'll be fine.

ikonn · March 2017

Well since I solo more than teaming... except for things like Blood Moon or for Alerts, I'd say DPS is probably more important for me. As long as I am able to (at least) passively heal, I think that would be sufficient for what I am trying to do. That was why I asked in my earlier post about going Ranged DPS and just stack up on more Pre with mods. If at all possible, I am going to stick with Seraphim and/or Compassion since this is the first and probably only character I have that will ever use those abilities. I don't want to be a dedicated healer at the expense of being able to dish out at least respectable damage.

As far as the Ego Blades go... While I thought it would be a fun idea to have them in the build, it's not very practical except I would be in AoE range of the tanks and could passively heal them while still doing some damage (albeit minor). But you are definitely right in suggesting I stay with Ranged over Melee. It's not really a smart strategy to be that close to bosses as they usually have some PBAoE and a healer that close would mean that bad things happen.

flowcyto · March 2017

Hm, well Ranged TK builds work well w/ Seraphim too- if you want decent base dps and some bonus heal as a Hybrid. Here's one that has some 2ndary ally healing and rezing ability:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Ego (Primary)
Level 10: Presence (Secondary)
Level 15: Constitution (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Hero (End: 6, Rec: 6, Other Stats: 8)
Level 6: Shrug It Off (Con: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 9: Ascetic (Con: 5, Ego: 5)
Level 12: Showmanship (Ego: 5, Pre: 5)
Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Lasting Impression (Pre: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Wordly (Ego: 5, Rec: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Kinetic Darts
Level 1: Telekinetic Assault (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Ego Reverberation
Level 8: Seraphim (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Compassion
Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Telekinetic Burst (Rank 2, Sudden Impact)
Level 20: Telekinetic Lance (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Celestial Conduit (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Illumination
Level 29: Eldritch Shield (Rank 2)
Level 32: Redemption (Rank 2, Salvation)
Level 35: Rebirth
Level 38: Ascension (Rank 2, Judgment)
Adv. Points: 34/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Ego: Force of Will (2/2)
Ego: Insight (3/3)
Ego: Follow Through (3/3)
Ego: Sixth Sense (2/3)
Sentinel: Caregiver (3/3)
Sentinel: Sentinel Aura (3/3)
Sentinel: Moment of Need (3/3)
Sentinel: Genesis (1/2)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Ego Mastery (1/1)

All 3 SS's are good here, but I may favor Pres and Con the most.

Traveling in unfamiliar territory with a Celestial/Mind (pref Ego Blades) build

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