It seems the Double XP Event is being treated like the Lockbox Stamp program.

kyastral · July 2016

If my memory serves me correctly, we have not seen a Double XP event since late last year. XP events have now been confined to the Comic Series and Adventure packs (Currently this is the second one this year). If the dev team is moving away/shelving the Double XP Event I hope they will let us know right away; unlike the lockbox stamp program, not many players will forget about it. I understand that the Comic Series and Adventure Packs needs some love from the players, but I think it will take more than just offering a Bonus XP Event for people to play them again. For example, if upon completion players were rewarded a GCR pack and purple/gold loot as well as SCR, Questionite and XP, I think that would peak some players' interest to play the content again.

markhawkman · July 2016

enh... I don't really like double xp actually...

furries2 · July 2016

Which are we talking about the exp boost Witchcraft gives at the Power House? or Something else.

kyastral · July 2016

furries2 said:
Which are we talking about the exp boost Witchcraft gives at the Power House? or Something else.

The Witchcraft Double XP Event.

furries2 · July 2016

kyastral said:

furries2 said:
Which are we talking about the exp boost Witchcraft gives at the Power House? or Something else.
The Witchcraft Double XP Event.

Ah ok, just what I was thinking, Had to make sure. Heh

deadman20 · July 2016

kyastral wrote: »

If my memory serves me correctly, we have not seen a Double XP event since late last year. XP events have now been confined to the Comic Series and Adventure packs (Currently this is the second one this year). If the dev team is moving away/shelving the Double XP Event I hope they will let us know right away; unlike the lockbox stamp program, not many players will forget about it. I understand that the Comic Series and Adventure Packs needs some love from the players, but I think it will take more than just offering a Bonus XP Event for people to play them again. For example, if upon completion players were rewarded a GCR pack and purple/gold loot as well as SCR, Questionite and XP, I think that would peak some players' interest to play the content again.

Patience, young one.

In all likelihood, they're probably holding off Double XP until they've gotten more power changes taken care of. After all, this next batch of changes guarantees that we should all be getting a free reset. What better way to get things settled in than a way for us to slingshot new characters and builds to Lv40 alongside the changes?

Not saying that they will, but that's when I'd start Double XP.

chaelk · July 2016

usually we get it for the anniversary. which is about september

spinnytop · July 2016

kyastral said:
For example, if upon completion players were rewarded a GCR pack and purple/gold loot as well as SCR, Questionite and XP, I think that would peak some players' interest to play the content again.

You're asking for too much. They've decided to utilize double xp in making some underused content look more attractive. If you decide not to participate that's not really a big issue. It's certainly not a big enough deal that you can start demanding GCR packs, lol.

There's also no evidence to indicate that this is a replacement for the witchcraft event.

chaelk · July 2016

GCR , purple and gold loot for adventure packs. LMAO

kyastral · July 2016

chaelk said:
GCR , purple and gold loot for adventure packs. LMAO

Well, at least I made someone laugh

kyastral · July 2016

spinnytop said:

kyastral said:
For example, if upon completion players were rewarded a GCR pack and purple/gold loot as well as SCR, Questionite and XP, I think that would peak some players' interest to play the content again.

You're asking for too much. They've decided to utilize double xp in making some underused content look more attractive. If you decide not to participate that's not really a big issue. It's certainly not a big enough deal that you can start demanding GCR packs, lol.

There's also no evidence to indicate that this is a replacement for the witchcraft event.

Why is that asking too much? First, the event is not double xp; it's bonus xp which only about 20% and limited to the Adventure Packs and Comic Series. Second, there are only 2 ways of getting GCR and that is doing TA and Comic Monsters. Since both have a long cooldown and the GCR store prices are very high, why not offer more GCR drops to existing content? Besides, adding GCR and other good loot would interest players to play that content more often, instead of only when bonus xp is around.

I understand the grind aspect but that grind should be spread out as questionite grinding is, not just confined to a couple of pieces of content.

spinnytop · July 2016

GCR is only going to be awarded for challenging endgame team content. Adventure packs do not qualify.

The xp thing isn't some desperate ploy to get people to run Adventure Packs - if you don't end up running them it's no big deal to anyone. They're basically just trying to get people to explore some content that they might not have known was there, and at the same time throwing a bone to alt-levelers that don't like spamming Grab alerts.

raighn · July 2016

spinnytop said:
GCR is only going to be awarded for challenging endgame team content. Adventure packs do not qualify.

The xp thing isn't some desperate ploy to get people to run Adventure Packs - if you don't end up running them it's no big deal to anyone. They're basically just trying to get people to explore some content that they might not have known was there, and at the same time throwing a bone to alt-levelers that don't like spamming Grab alerts.

To be perfectly honest, I highly highly doubt that much of anyone would complain about giving APs and Comics 1-3GCR for completion... it certainly wouldn't become a "replacement" for TA or Cosmics... they take long enough to complete that it'd be faster and more optimal to do TA and Cosmics for GCR, but it'd at least offer an alternative for those who want it or for when getting a group for the others is unbearably slow...

Honestly though, they could get a lot of attention back to APs by simply returning their old drops... a lot of people still want some of those old removed costumes, and the supply for them has dwindled down to nearly non-existent...

spinnytop · July 2016

raighn said:
To be perfectly honest, I highly highly doubt that much of anyone would complain about giving APs and Comics 1-3GCR for completion...

Nobody would complain if they just gave all of us 10,000 GCR and every piece of loot in the game the next time we logged in either. "People won't complain" isn't really the metric for good decisions.

The standards for content that awards GCR were laid out very openly, and have been reinforced many times. You can say that people wouldn't use an easy source of GCR as a replacement, but that's just wishful thinking. Gamers have time and again proven that if there is an easier method to get something that takes longer, that's the one they're going to use, because for all their complaining about "grind" they will happily go for the sure thing that they have to do many times, over the unsure thing that they have to do fewer times.

raighn · July 2016

spinnytop said:

raighn said:
To be perfectly honest, I highly highly doubt that much of anyone would complain about giving APs and Comics 1-3GCR for completion...
Nobody would complain if they just gave all of us 10,000 GCR and every piece of loot in the game the next time we logged in either. "People won't complain" isn't really the metric for good decisions.

The standards for content that awards GCR were laid out very openly, and have been reinforced many times. You can say that people wouldn't use an easy source of GCR as a replacement, but that's just wishful thinking. Gamers have time and again proven that if there is an easier method to get something that takes longer, that's the one they're going to use, because for all their complaining about "grind" they will happily go for the sure thing that they have to do many times, over the unsure thing that they have to do fewer times.

Yea, they will go for "the sure thing" they will also go for the fastest thing. And when both of those factors overlap gamers will always go for the fastest sure thing. Well guess what... the fastest sure thing will STILL be TA a d Cosmics. We arent fighting against the RNG for GCR we are guaranteed it from these peices of content. Gamers preder faster options over endless grind and it has always been seen that RNG is the longest grind of all since you could go your entire gaming career and never see the reward you wantex from RNG.

Now lets be honest, who in there right mind would willingly choose that they would rather run 12 APs and Comics per day than 1 TA per day for the same end amount of GCR? No one, your guaranteed the GCR from either route but one route is 12x faster, your going tto tqke the 12x faster route over tbe slower but easier route. Not to mention, even with todays power levels, not everyone can solo APs or Comics, and many builds that can take 4-6 hours for some of them. I mention soloing because its far easier to find a group for TA today than an AP or Comic Series.

roughbearmattach · July 2016

raighn said:

Now lets be honest, who in there right mind would willingly choose that they would rather run 12 APs and Comics per day than 1 TA per day for the same end amount of GCR? No one, your guaranteed the GCR from either route but one route is 12x faster, your going tto tqke the 12x faster route over tbe slower but easier route. Not to mention, even with todays power levels, not everyone can solo APs or Comics, and many builds that can take 4-6 hours for some of them. I mention soloing because its far easier to find a group for TA today than an AP or Comic Series.

There are people who've posted in this thread that would choose to run those APs. They've said as much.

reiwulf · July 2016

what's GCR? I'm just going back to the game and I can't remember it XD some kind of item to access other items?

beezeeze · July 2016

reiwulf said:
what's GCR? I'm just going back to the game and I can't remember it XD some kind of item to access other items?

Yes.

deadman20 · July 2016

Beep boop, this thread is now derailed.
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Robot noises.

spinnytop · July 2016

raighn said:
Now lets be honest, who in there right mind would willingly choose that they would rather run 12 APs and Comics per day than 1 TA per day for the same end amount of GCR? No one

Then why add it in as a reward if according to you nobody would even care or be motivated by it. GCR is not meant to be a reward that is just tacked on to content for people to get if they just happen to be running it anyway.

raighn said:

Yea, they will go for "the sure thing" they will also go for the fastest thing. And when both of those factors overlap gamers will always go for the fastest sure thing. Well guess what... the fastest sure thing will STILL be TA a d Cosmics.

Hardly. You know all those Cosmic fights that took hours and hours? You know all those TA runs that took hours and hours? You could run several easy, guaranteed AP speed runs during that time, and that's the formula that's going to be dancing around in peoples heads. So long as Cosmics and TA are being mopped up quickly they're the "fast thing", but it's never guaranteed that that will be the case and sometimes what could be a quick ten minute fight turns into a four+ hour fight( that sometimes ends up with everybody giving up and leaving ), meaning that Cosmics and TA are not the "sure thing".

People know the reality of Cosmics and TA, and when a lot of people consider where to go they're not going to be seeing the quick easy version of that content in their head, they're going to be seeing the version that involves an hour or two of trying and then failing and getting nothing... but they will be seeing the quick easy version of APs, since that's the only version that exists... especially when people start demonstrating how easily you can speed run them by skipping everything that's skippable.

chaelk · July 2016

and with stealth, you can skip even more

reiwulf · July 2016

is a decent amount of people going to try APs because if the 20%more exp? it seems that it is not something that would make people who werent playing them already go and do it.

It seems the Double XP Event is being treated like the Lockbox Stamp program.

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