Borked Munitions DPS build

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User

  April 2016 edited April 2016

  I wouldn't normally put Orbital Cannon into a build for dps (I assume its there just as an opener), though Strafing Run is still alright. TGM does fine on its own, and already eats enough energy w/o throwing in an expensive power from another set, imo.
  
  What are ur stats for the character? You can maybe do more dps w/ Targeting Comp and a EGO/Dex/Con setup (Ego focus). BCR/RR is also lowering ur dmg by 10% when its up, and the build lacks a good AO (Ego Surge w/ NM, ofc).
  
  347-751 dmg range (I assume those are tooltip values at 1x Concentration?) is a bit low for TGM ticks in a dps FF build. Are you also using the Ranged dps role? Are you having to end build often due to TGM's cost? Ya should be able to get TGM ticks to crit above 2-2.2k pretty easily w/ max Conc stacks and Burst Shot's debuff vs. one target.
  
  Also, TGM is now fully flagged as an AoE, so you'll want Mass Destruction for it.
  
  I'm not sure how ur friend can do 300% more dps than that build- unless ur not geared at all and/or spending much more time energy building (or dead). I assume ur both comparing TGM builds as well.

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• jonandre1 Posts: 67 Arc User

  April 2016

  Health 8,176 Energy 64/134
  STR 10
  DEX 10
  CON 225
  INT 246
  EGO 240
  PRE 10
  REC 43
  END 17
  
  Offense 288.3
  Critical 9.8%
  Severity 112.6%
  
  Defense 201.3
  Dodge 30.3%
  Avoid 20%
  
  Primary Offense Slot: Mercenary's Gloves of Piercing
  -Impact Prism 5 (+62 Offense)
  -Ego Enhancement 5 (+55 EGO)
  -Intelligence Enhancement 5 (+55 INT)
  Secondary Offense Slot: Vital Belt (Purple, Lv 40)
  +20 CON, +6.5 DEF, +25 OFF
  Primary Defense Slot: Mercenary's Breastplate of Freedom
  -Ego Armoring 6 (+57 EGO)
  -Constitution Armoring 5 (+55 CON)
  -Gambler's Lucky Gem 5 (+127 Dodge Chance)
  Secondary Defense Slot: Reformation Bracers (Purple, Lv 40)
  +20 INT, +20 REC, +9.7 DEF
  Primary Utility Slot: Mercenary's Helmet of Energy
  -Constitution Enhancement 5 (+55 CON)
  -Intelligence Armoring 5 (+55 INT)
  -Gambler's Lucky Gem 5 (+85 Cost Discount)
  Secondary Utility Slot: Diplomatic Eyepiece (Purple, Lv 40)
  +20 INT, +20 EGO, +6.5 DEF, +46 Cooldown Reduction, +46 Cost Discount
  
  Orbital Cannon is there for lead-in strikes... and also because I hate Black Talon. ("Let's see how YOU like it for a change!!") Strafing Run probably would make more sense, thematically. (A PRIMUS agent with access to UNTIL's orbital weapons platforms?)
  
  I rely on Holdout Shot for self-healing. BCR/RR and MD are there for when I've attracted a leetle too much aggro. I think I used to run with Conviction, but it wasn't doing the job that just relying on Holdout Shot was.
  
  As it turns out, this is all based on Hybrid role, not Ranged DPS. Tooltip values haven't changed, though. I'll have to hit Powerhouse to check values. My guildy says she hits 1.5k-2.2k per second with her TGM, on a DEX/INT/CON build. (Yeah, I know tooltip values are per half second. Again, I'll have to hit Powerhouse later and check.)

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• jonandre1 Posts: 67 Arc User

  April 2016

  Okay, with some testing in Powerhouse, with 8 stacks of Concentration, I'm pulling 876-965 damage per tick, double that for DPS -- so 1750 to 1930 DPS. That still seems low. But then again, I can maintain TGM for a long time -- I don't have the kind of energy costs my guildy says she does. (She says she's pulling 52 energy per second. I'm pulling 18 per second, and I can usually do three or four full maintains on TGM without having to fall back to Gunslinger. So while I'm doing LESS DPS than she is, I can maintain that DPS LONGER.

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User

  April 2016

  Yeah I'm a bit confused what these dmg ranges are referring to for you and ur guildie: the tooltip ones or the final dmg ticks you see on dummies? Ya mentioned ur guildie getting upto 2.2k per second, but did she mean per tick, and on crits? Cause I can get 2.5k crits pretty easily w/ TGM on the regen dummies w/ a full dps setup- using Burst Shot, ranged dps role, and not using Dex PSS (which is best for ideal dps, but can cause more energy issues when applied vs. Int PSS's extra Int or Ego PSS's Insight). Changing to the Ranged (not melee) dps role should also have upped the dmg listed on the tooltip, so something seems fishy there.
  
  I also doubt you are only spending 18 energy per second w/ TGM now. I think ya meant per tick? So you'd have to double that for the per sec number (technically more on avg if you add activation cost). Its good to hear you aren't really having energy issues, though. Energy building will lower one's overall dps, so by what ur saying she has higher burst dps, but not necc as high sustained dps.
  
  Ur crit rate is pretty low if its just 9.8% on the char sheet, though (before buffs like Audacity and specs, ofc). I prob would have geared out w/ extra crit rating over extra Offense, esp since ur already pretty heavy into Offense's DR w/ Guardicator. W/ 6th Sense and Audacity helping out, crit rating on primary and 2ndary offensive gear should get you above the 25% resting char sheet range for crit, and possibly close to 30% (which isn't too far off from Dex-heavy dps builds).
  
  If ya change to gearing for crit, I dun actually think you'd be much behind ur friend for sustained, final dps (at least, def not to the magnitude of them doing 300% more ). Dex PSS will still give them a leg up even if you both had the same build and gear/stats otherwise, but that doesn't account for too much in of itself.

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• jonandre1 Posts: 67 Arc User

  April 2016

  The numbers I reported were base numbers before damage resistance, without crits, to establish a baseline for comparison. Didn't know you wanted me to include crits, too. The ranged DPS mode did make some difference, but not a really big one.
  
  I did do some regearing with the secondary slots, trying to get out of stacking my SSes with the secondaries and going for stats I could use more of, like END, REC and DEX. Well, that only halfway worked, as I couldn't find stuff on the AH in the kind of mix I needed (even going with blues, not purples). But I picked up 40 extra DEX -- and my Crit Chance jumped from 8.9% to 19.8%. With a Gambler's in my Primary Offense slot, that should improve even more.
  
  Still, it seems low. I wish I could afford better gems -- and better gear. Heroics would help push me up higher in damage... but I don't think I can do the kind of grind that heroic gear requires these days.

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• flowcyto Posts: 12,852 Arc User

  April 2016 edited April 2016

  Its not that I wanted you to include crits as I was just confused what source you were getting ur number ranges from. I guess its just the base tooltip values, though that dmg range is only cause TGM does less dmg on >1 target (so its not really a 'dmg range' as much as telling you the base dmg depending on #targets). The dps role should have been a 20-25% final dmg boost, which is pretty good.
  
  Otherwise, yeah- just get better gear, up ur crit, and ya can't really do much more aside from some of the build tweaks I mentioned (switching to the ranged dps role, switching to ES/NM as the AO or adding it as a 2nd AO, Mass Destruction in Vind, etc). Ur build is mostly fine for a dps TGM build, and its perhaps as important that ur not having stark energy issues w/ it atm.

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