More disconnects.. Twice in one night.

gradii · January 2016

Can we get the little idiot some jail time with that jail time he ordered?

chaelk · January 2016

that lot in red would normally be through Cogent, anyone else do tracert as soon as they got dc'd?
Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 17 ms 97 ms 97 ms BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
2 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.217.1
3 22 ms 20 ms 22 ms 172.18.74.61
4 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms bundle-ether4.pie-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.54]
5 24 ms 21 ms 21 ms bundle-ether6.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.212]
6 56 ms 53 ms 53 ms bundle-ether6.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.16]
7 67 ms 67 ms 67 ms bundle-ether9.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.93]
8 83 ms 82 ms 82 ms bundle-ether12.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.124]
9 83 ms 83 ms 81 ms bundle-ether1.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.93]
10 83 ms 83 ms 82 ms bundle-ether1.sydo-core03.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.98]
11 83 ms 83 ms 82 ms i-0-1-0-15.sydo-core04.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.222.54]
12 220 ms 221 ms 221 ms i-0-2-0-5.1wlt-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.140.202]
13 226 ms 224 ms 225 ms i-0-4-0-4.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.234]
14 226 ms 225 ms 268 ms zayo-peer.eqla01.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.63.18]
15 232 ms 233 ms 233 ms ae10.cr1.lax112.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.26.6]
16 295 ms 303 ms 295 ms ae27.cs1.lax112.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.30.184]
17 295 ms 296 ms 295 ms ae3.cs1.dfw2.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.52]
18 320 ms 302 ms 302 ms ae5.cs1.iah1.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.28.98]
19 296 ms 296 ms 296 ms ae3.cs1.dca2.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.48]
20 295 ms 296 ms 295 ms ae4.cs1.lga5.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.202]
21 291 ms 290 ms 290 ms ae27.cr1.lga5.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.30.251]
22 294 ms 294 ms 294 ms ae7.mpr3.bos2.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.21.225]
23 288 ms 288 ms 288 ms 208.184.110.70.IPYX-072053-002-ZYO.above.net [208.184.110.70]
24 289 ms 289 ms 290 ms border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
25 292 ms 292 ms * perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
26 304 ms * * 198.49.243.250
27 291 ms 292 ms * 198.49.243.253
28 * *

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coseleos · January 2016

It would be great if Cryptic could/would do something about this. It is getting highly frustrating, and just seems to be keeping up if not increasing in frequency.

chaelk · January 2016

and dc'd again

Tracing route to patchserver.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 95 ms 99 ms 99 ms BigPond.BigPond [10.0.0.138]
2 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.217.1
3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 172.18.74.57
4 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms bundle-ether4.pie-edge901.perth.telstra.net [203.50.112.54]
5 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms bundle-ether6.pie-core1.perth.telstra.net [203.50.6.212]
6 55 ms 55 ms 59 ms bundle-ether6.way-core4.adelaide.telstra.net [203.50.11.16]
7 67 ms 67 ms 66 ms bundle-ether9.exi-core10.melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.11.93]
8 82 ms 81 ms 82 ms bundle-ether12.chw-core10.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.11.124]
9 82 ms 82 ms 81 ms bundle-ether1.oxf-gw11.sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.93]
10 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms bundle-ether1.sydo-core03.sydney.reach.com [203.50.13.98]
11 82 ms 82 ms 82 ms i-0-1-0-15.sydo-core04.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.84.222.54]
12 222 ms 223 ms 222 ms i-0-2-0-5.1wlt-core01.bx.telstraglobal.net [202.84.140.202]
13 225 ms 225 ms 225 ms i-0-4-0-4.eqla01.bi.telstraglobal.net [202.40.149.234]
14 225 ms 225 ms 225 ms zayo-peer.eqla01.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.63.18]
15 232 ms 233 ms 232 ms ae10.cr1.lax112.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.26.6]
16 303 ms 333 ms 294 ms ae27.cs1.lax112.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.30.184]
17 296 ms 298 ms 296 ms ae3.cs1.dfw2.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.52]
18 303 ms 303 ms 302 ms ae5.cs1.iah1.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.28.98]
19 296 ms 296 ms 296 ms ae3.cs1.dca2.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.48]
20 295 ms 296 ms 321 ms ae4.cs1.lga5.us.eth.zayo.com [64.125.29.202]
21 290 ms 290 ms 290 ms ae27.cr1.lga5.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.30.251]
22 295 ms 294 ms 294 ms ae7.mpr3.bos2.us.zip.zayo.com [64.125.21.225]
23 288 ms 288 ms 289 ms 208.184.110.70.IPYX-072053-002-ZYO.above.net [208.184.110.70]
24 292 ms 292 ms 291 ms border11.te7-1-bbnet1.bsn.pnap.net [63.251.128.41]
25 295 ms * 325 ms perfectworldent-4.border11.bsn.pnap.net [216.52.61.78]
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * 294 ms 294 ms 198.49.243.253
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * 294 ms 294 ms patchserver2.crypticstudios.com [208.95.185.41]

Trace complete.

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spinnytop · January 2016

coseleos said:
It would be great if Cryptic could/would do something about this. It is getting highly frustrating, and just seems to be keeping up if not increasing in frequency.

I mean, someone could find out where that DDOSer lives and put a bullet in the back of his head.

chaelk · January 2016

spinnytop wrote: »

It would be great if Cryptic could/would do something about this. It is getting highly frustrating, and just seems to be keeping up if not increasing in frequency.

I mean, someone could find out where that DDOSer lives and put a bullet in the back of his head.

NO, find all their accounts on all the PWE games and wipe the lot.
THEN publish their account details on the forums of all the games including home address.

Unknown · January 2016

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coseleos · January 2016

What is Cryptic doing? Hoping they will just get bored and stop? This is ridiculous. Surely something can be done to stop something that is happening so regularly? Will it take loads of people just giving up and leaving? Then this attacker has won.

roughbearmattach · January 2016

The Cryptic Website itself is having problems. My launcher had no news and used a Defender vs. Destroyer splash screen from years ago . . .

spinnytop · January 2016

coseleos said:
Surely something can be done to stop something that is happening so regularly?

Like what? No seriously, the world is all ears if you have a solution, because right now everyone is trying to think of one. DDOSers are currently a plague without a cure, and spreading that plague is something that any bored emo kid with an internet connection can do.

Get used to it, this problem is only gonna get worse before it gets better. We're likely at some point to see months of constant disruptions in every corner of the internet, the likes of which would normally only happen in some Ghost In The Shell story arc. These punks are literally trying to kill the internet ( and in most cases they don't even realize that that's what they're actually doing ).

The only funny part is that some of them think they're gaining notoriety... but of course, they're all afraid to show their face.

coseleos · January 2016

I have to come up with a solution? How on earth is that fair? I am a client. My solution will be to leave and stop giving Cryptic my money. This is not what I do for a living. Someone who does needs to come up with a solution.

Unknown · January 2016

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spinnytop · January 2016

coseleos said:
I have to come up with a solution? How on earth is that fair? I am a client. My solution will be to leave and stop giving Cryptic my money. This is not what I do for a living. Someone who does needs to come up with a solution.

Well, you said "surely something can be done"... as it turns out there were a few words there that didn't mean what you thought they meant.

Threatening Cryptic with "leaving" and "no more money!" won't solve anything either. You think if you threaten them hard enough they'll use the ez solution that they just haven't been using just because? Srsly?

Think.

roughbearmattach · January 2016

This is ominous: after my post, above, I was signed out of Arc. When I went to sign back in, I had to get a pin, as if I was logging in with a new computer.

coseleos · January 2016

Why are you turning this into a personal attack on me? I won't talk with you, anymore. I hope Cryptic comes up with a solution. -Surely- there is one. They -will- lose revenue if this continues.

spinnytop · January 2016

coseleos said:
Why are you turning this into a personal attack on me? I won't talk with you, anymore. I hope Cryptic comes up with a solution. -Surely- there is one. They -will- lose revenue if this continues.

You said there was a solution. You lied. Your claims about revenue are likely lies as well. Everything is lies!

chaelk · January 2016

start reading coseleos
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/security/traffic-anomaly-detector-xt-5600a/prod_white_paper0900aecd8011e927.html
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2905115/network-security/the-best-way-to-stop-ddos-attacks.html

to find more, just google protecting/defeating ddos attacks

codewar65 · January 2016

coseleos said:
Why are you turning this into a personal attack on me? I won't talk with you, anymore. I hope Cryptic comes up with a solution. -Surely- there is one. They -will- lose revenue if this continues.

Welcome to the Champions Online Forums.

spinnytop · January 2016

chaelk said:
start reading coseleos

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/security/traffic-anomaly-detector-xt-5600a/prod_white_paper0900aecd8011e927.html

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2905115/network-security/the-best-way-to-stop-ddos-attacks.html

to find more, just google protecting/defeating ddos attacks

^ see this is what it looks like when there's surely something that can be done.

chaelk · January 2016

and it's gone again.
on the other hand, it was funny running away from the mob attacking and still taking the damage while nowhere near it.
I would update STO to get the freebies on that but

championshewolf · January 2016

I am sure Cryptic has been working round the clock on this, because every minute the server isn't online is potential revenue lost. And just imagine how much is being lost on overtime as people try to fix this issue.

prettycelt · January 2016

championshewolf said:
I am sure Cryptic has been working round the clock on this, because every minute the server isn't online is potential revenue lost. And just imagine how much is being lost on overtime as people try to fix this issue.

LOL my previous post was removed! I see they are still cruising the forums looking for any criticism and deleting it! If they put even half the energy and effort into finding the DDoS'er as they do in censoring threads and quieting dissension, they'd have the guy in handcuffs by tomorrow lol.

biffsmackwell · January 2016

There's plenty of posts criticizing this issue, I'm removing yours in particular because you're baiting people into arguments by accusing Cryptic of acting in a certain manner that you couldn't possibly know about. Keep in mind that I'm not affiliated with Cryptic, so it's not "Cryptic cruising the forums looking for criticism."

If you keep posting the same way, expect those posts to disappear the same way.

prettycelt · January 2016

biffsmackwell said:
There's plenty of posts criticizing this issue, I'm removing yours in particular because you're baiting people into arguments by accusing Cryptic of acting in a certain manner that you couldn't possibly know about. Keep in mind that I'm not affiliated with Cryptic, so it's not "Cryptic cruising the forums looking for criticism."

If you keep posting the same way, expect those posts to disappear the same way.

If you're "not affiliated with Cryptic", then what do you care about how we're "accusing Cryptic of acting"? And if people decide to get into arguments over it, then guess what, "biff"? They will STILL get into arguments about it without "baiting". No, I don't know how Cryptic is acting, but it is pretty d*mn clear what they aren't doing, and that's anything smart or constructive to douse the perpetual attacks on their server.

By the way, you should be in politics. You'd fit right in with those trying to deflect attention from Hillary's criminal offenses. Or maybe in Oz where you could claim there's nothing to see behind the curtain.

sistersilicon · January 2016

roughbearmattach said:
This is ominous: after my post, above, I was signed out of Arc. When I went to sign back in, I had to get a pin, as if I was logging in with a new computer.

Arc Defender lies when it says it's "detected a new computer". It's a plain, simple two-factor authentication scheme that engages on every login, and I really wish PWE would promote it that way.

nepht · January 2016

Giving CO a miss today I'm play something less stress inducing like Ninja Gaiden on the NES.

biffsmackwell · January 2016

prettycelt said:
If you're "not affiliated with Cryptic", then what do you care about how we're "accusing Cryptic of acting"? And if people decide to get into arguments over it, then guess what, "biff"? They will STILL get into arguments about it without "baiting". No, I don't know how Cryptic is acting, but it is pretty d*mn clear what they aren't doing, and that's anything smart or constructive to douse the perpetual attacks on their server.

By the way, you should be in politics. You'd fit right in with those trying to deflect attention from Hillary's criminal offenses. Or maybe in Oz where you could claim there's nothing to see behind the curtain.

Quite the opposite. If Cryptic were to go looking on these forums for evidence of what's happening, do you want them to find posts with relevant information, or pages upon pages of pointless bickering and finger-pointing?

I personally don't care what people think of Cryptic, but if a certain opinion is going to completely derail a thread, especially an opinion backed up by false assumptions, something that's sure to bait people into an argument, which it clearly did, then I tend to delete those posts, regardless of how favorable or not the opinion is.

nepht · January 2016

Biff thats logic though. No place for that here.

jennymachx · January 2016

-Misread edit-

I also love the fact that Cryptic is expected to hunt down the attacker when DDoS involves exploiting compromised infected PCs to perform the attack aka botnets. It's really left to their ISP to pursue the matter also if the relevant parties are able to track down the attacker.

spinnytop · January 2016

Someone doesn't seem to realize that Biff is a forum moderator, and they also don't seem to realize that he's doing something that forum moderators have been doing for decades...

Jenny also makes a good point. Seems someone forgot that Cryptic is a building filled with game developers and a few suits, not internet security specialists.

seems pretty celtic rainbow dash gets a little forgetful when she gets emotional o3o

chaelk · February 2016

WHAT? They are game developers, I thought it was a hamster farm.I've ordered two of them.

prettycelt · February 2016

jennymachx said:
-Misread edit-

I also love the fact that Cryptic is expected to hunt down the attacker when DDoS involves exploiting compromised infected PCs to perform the attack aka botnets. It's really left to their ISP to pursue the matter also if the relevant parties are able to track down the attacker.

It isn't as impossible as everyone keeps saying. As posted earlier:

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/security/traffic-anomaly-detector-xt-5600a/prod_white_paper0900aecd8011e927.html
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2905115/network-security/the-best-way-to-stop-ddos-attacks.html

prettycelt · February 2016

spinnytop said:
Someone doesn't seem to realize that Biff is a forum moderator, and they also don't seem to realize that he's doing something that forum moderators have been doing for decades...

Jenny also makes a good point. Seems someone forgot that Cryptic is a building filled with game developers and a few suits, not internet security specialists.

seems pretty celtic rainbow dash gets a little forgetful when she gets emotional o3o

Cryptic, however, is especially notorious for deleting posts and closing threads for even the slightest criticism, even among game companies. If you think it is bad here, you should see how often they do it over on the NW forums. The "pointless bickering and finger pointing" IS relevant feedback when taken as symptomatic of the underlying dissatisfaction with Cryptic's response to the ongoing problems with the server...and they should take it seriously. We shouldn't have to be providing the solutions to their problems, too.

The one thing I will give Biff is that at least he is not condescending, which is more than I can say for a few of the other moderators.

kemmicals · February 2016

sistersilicon · February 2016

prettycelt said:
Cryptic, however, is especially notorious for deleting posts and closing threads for even the slightest criticism, even among game companies. If you think it is bad here, you should see how often they do it over on the NW forums.

I've damn near burned the CO forums to the ground on more than one occasion, but I've never had any criticism of Cryptic or PWE deleted. Maybe it's because I've never once insisted that circumstances beyond their control were their own fault, then demanded that they snap their fingers and fix a problem that devoted experts around the world have failed to solve.

spinnytop · February 2016

prettycelt said:

Cryptic, however, is especially notorious for deleting posts and closing threads for even the slightest criticism, even among game companies.

what fever dream did you imagine that in? have you looked around? do you see all these posts and threads criticising Cryptic in a capacity that far exceeds slightly? Have you read the thread you're posting in right now?

prettycelt said:

jennymachx said:
-Misread edit-

I also love the fact that Cryptic is expected to hunt down the attacker when DDoS involves exploiting compromised infected PCs to perform the attack aka botnets. It's really left to their ISP to pursue the matter also if the relevant parties are able to track down the attacker.
It isn't as impossible as everyone keeps saying. As posted earlier:

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/security/traffic-anomaly-detector-xt-5600a/prod_white_paper0900aecd8011e927.html
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2905115/network-security/the-best-way-to-stop-ddos-attacks.html

and you completely missed the point of what you were responding to here. jenny didn't even type the word "impossible".

do you even read what you're responding to anymore?

prettycelt · February 2016

--what fever dream did you imagine that in? have you looked around? do you see all these posts and threads criticising Cryptic in a capacity that far exceeds slightly? Have you read the thread you're posting in right now?--

As I said, just hop on over to the NWO forums and see for yourself. Oh that's right, you wouldn't be able to see what was stripped unless you'd been following the conversations in the first place...but it was pretty brutal. Entire threads closed, yanked, and tossed in "The Abyss". The censorship has actually slacked off recently compared to a few months ago. I guess Cryptic is losing steam in trying to keep up.

--and you completely missed the point of what you were responding to here. jenny didn't even type the word "impossible".--

It was implied, more than once, on this and related threads. And...if it IS possible, then they should do it!

--do you even read what you're responding to anymore?--

Nope. Do you ever get tired of being a Cryptic apologist and kissing your pal Jenny's a$$...?

themightyzenith · February 2016

prettycelt said:
As I said, just hop on over to the NWO forums and see for yourself. Oh that's right, you wouldn't be able to see what was stripped unless you'd been following the conversations in the first place...but it was pretty brutal. The censorship has actually slacked off recently compared to a few months ago..I guess Cryptic is losing steam in trying to keep up.

Try to stick to CO. I couldn't give a rat's **** what happens on NW forums. If you want to make a case on notorious moderation on these forums then please try it.

And good luck on that. The mods are really easy-going here.

spinnytop · February 2016

Oh that's convenient. We can't see what's been removed because it's gone, so you could claim there's like a billion different threads that have been removed! Why, you could even claim that they kidnapped your sister and erased all records of her existence because no evidence of their existence is evidence that their existence has been erased! Woah man, it's fill of stars!

prettycelt said:

Nope. Do you ever get tired of being a Cryptic apologist and kissing your pal Jenny's a$$...?

Oh, do the people who make the video games that you play have something to apologize to you for?

jennymachx · February 2016

Valid criticism.

Making %$#! up.

Pick one.

More disconnects.. Twice in one night.

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