Release Notes 11/19/2015

ladygadfly · November 2015

Release Notes for 11/19/2015

Onslaught Fixes
- Fixed issue with Onslaught reward token packs going into overflow. Now requires you to have an inventory slot available in order to accept reward.
- Nailed to the Ground: Now correctly affects Vehicles.
- Gravitar's Inversion Bolt now applies Nailed to the Ground to the primary target.
- Onslaught Supervillains gain a new debuff upon activating their device, Genetic Exhaustion. This debuff prevents the activation of further Villain devices, but it is removed if the player completes their time as a villain (either by dying or timing out).
- Onslaught Supervillains can now see through stealth and perception debuffs.
- Onslaught Supervillains will no longer benefit from the heal from Sentinel Mastery.
- Onslaught Supervillains will now apply Vile Challenge to players who block their basic attacks.
- Devices should no longer incorrectly have their effects persist when becoming an Onslaught Villain.
- Genetic Exhaustion is now correctly removed at the end of your villain time.
- Onslaught Villain travel powers no longer incorrectly cancel your villain time.

Costume Fixes
- Fixed Scifi soldier chest colors from bleeding into one another.
- Fixed a problem with the Avian set not unlocking the armored boots and winged gloves for females.
- Avian Costume Changed the unlock so it can be purchased in the Gold Subscriber store by silvers who have the 900 day perk.
- Capes are now in alphabetical order. Some capes have been renamed to indicate what category they belong to.
- All hairs now have access to Hair, Leather and Metal materials.
- Fixed Medusa hair from not coloring properly.
- Fixed Hipan Belt's texture.
- Updated NPC costumes using the hipan belt to use their correct texture.
- Fixed Dragon Armor Belt so it glows properly. Made it so its detail texture isn't required.
- Ravenswood Helmet beak can now be colored.
- Added cloth and leather materials to Gravitar Legs. Fixed metal material from displaying as leather.

Additional Bug Fixes
- Fixed an issue that could cause some players to disconnect from the server.
- Added a temporary store to the vehicle upgrade vendor that will allow you to exchange your mk1 incendiary rounds for a mk2 version.
- Incendiary Rounds Mark 1 now properly displays as mark 1. Its range, target cap, have been adjusted to be in line with a mark 1 version. The taunt has been removed.
- Nighthawk Penthouse - Fixed issue where pets entering the trigger volume for the downstairs lobby cut-scene prevented players from progressing further in the mission.
- Powers: Darkness: Endbringer's Grasp: This power no longer incorrectly ticks for much more damage than expected. It will now deal an appropriate amount of damage for its intended effect.

themightyzenith · November 2015

More improvements, bug fixes and costume fixes! Nice!

itsbrou · November 2015

Nerfed snowballs.

avianos · November 2015

someguywhoplaysgames wrote: »

Nerfed snowballs.

BOOOOO! That was uncalled Nerf

roughbearmattach · November 2015

How was snowball nerfed?

Bigger issue: Endbringer's Grasp no longer does enough damage to make it worthwhile.
At level 35+, you can temporarily control trash mobs (Henchmen and Villains).
This will occasionally make alerts take longer as your team waits for the effect to wear off.

Likely will dump Endbringer's Grasp on the two toons of mine that have it. Just go back to Gravity Driver, or take yet another Active Defense.

avianos · November 2015

I agree, the Endbringer's Grasp should NOT have been NERFED like that, the Corruption Mind Control will only cause Problems

Shame to see such Visually beautiful "ULTIMATE" get downgraded like that, what a shame

At least Mind Link won't feel lonely now

draogn · November 2015

So you made EG useless, and being a hero fighting OVs even worse unless you've got a super build. What's next?

theravenforce · November 2015

I'm pleased to see these patch notes, and yes.

That includes Endbringer's Grasp adjustments.

Endbringer's Grasp was designed to introduce a highly sought after mechanic (at least in crowd controller's eyes), "Super Roid Confuse" / Faction Conversion.

I am pleased that this ability will be more apparent with lower damage values, however, I do also see the issue with "non Henchman and Villain Targets" vs Endbringer's Grasp.

At the end of the day, the power still does damage, which you can compound with your own, so in my own opinion this is a welcome change.

So thanks again Dev Team!

(I would have probably held off on VC, but since we have immunity incoming it won't be too irritating)

avianos · November 2015

There should have been an OPTION here, if the Corruption control was an ADV instead of something in the power by Default

Endbringer's Grasp

Do you want to deal the maximum DAMAGE with this Ultimate?
Then Rank it to Rank 3
Do you want to MIND CONTROL trash mobs which will die anyway? possible slowlying down your team? and bugging the alert?
Pick the Corruption ADV, in return the power deals less damage

NOT THIS! I like this power for the animation visuals and the good damage but I HATED the CC effect

The corruption effect is super situational, I prefered the damage with a power with such cooldown

jonsills · November 2015

One question after reading the patch notes:

What are the folks who like to complain about "never getting bug fixes" going to whine about now?

magpieuk2014 · November 2015

The bug fixes. What else?

meedacthunist · November 2015

Wait, we can now use metal hair?

Cool.

seeker1235 · November 2015

meedacthunist said:
Wait, we can now use metal hair?

Cool.

That's metal.

spookyspectre · November 2015

- Onslaught Supervillains can now see through stealth and perception debuffs.

Well my squishy toons just got squishier and there's one more reason to just focus on dps and defense builds.

guyhumual · November 2015

Nice bug fixes! I think people were asking for you guys to do this for a while and I'm glad you are.

roughbearmattach · November 2015

theravenforce said:
I'm pleased to see these patch notes, and yes.

That includes Endbringer's Grasp adjustments.

Endbringer's Grasp was designed to introduce a highly sought after mechanic (at least in crowd controller's eyes), "Super Roid Confuse" / Faction Conversion.

I am pleased that this ability will be more apparent with lower damage values, however, I do also see the issue with "non Henchman and Villain Targets" vs Endbringer's Grasp.

At the end of the day, the power still does damage, which you can compound with your own, so in my own opinion this is a welcome change.

So thanks again Dev Team!

(I would have probably held off on VC, but since we have immunity incoming it won't be too irritating)

When will this power (only chosen at level 35+) actually be useful, Ravenforce? A few missions on Monster Island where the mobs would die faster without putting them on your side? Against Rampage bosses? Against alerts that are brimming with Enforcers? How about timed alerts where mobs that have become friendly just run the clock?

I guess it could be useful in Skycarrier Defense.

I am not being sarcastic, just pointing out the very limited use of this power. It would be better suited, at this point, to just being a tier 4 power (with a bit smaller area and only 5 targets).

raighn · November 2015

roughbearmattach said:

theravenforce said:
I'm pleased to see these patch notes, and yes.

That includes Endbringer's Grasp adjustments.

Endbringer's Grasp was designed to introduce a highly sought after mechanic (at least in crowd controller's eyes), "Super Roid Confuse" / Faction Conversion.

I am pleased that this ability will be more apparent with lower damage values, however, I do also see the issue with "non Henchman and Villain Targets" vs Endbringer's Grasp.

At the end of the day, the power still does damage, which you can compound with your own, so in my own opinion this is a welcome change.

So thanks again Dev Team!

(I would have probably held off on VC, but since we have immunity incoming it won't be too irritating)

When will this power (only chosen at level 35+) actually be useful, Ravenforce? A few missions on Monster Island where the mobs would die faster without putting them on your side? Against Rampage bosses? Against alerts that are brimming with Enforcers? How about timed alerts where mobs that have become friendly just run the clock?

I guess it could be useful in Skycarrier Defense.

I am not being sarcastic, just pointing out the very limited use of this power. It would be better suited, at this point, to just being a tier 4 power (with a bit smaller area and only 5 targets).

There are many powers that fall into the category of "when will this be useful" does that make any of them useless? No. Does it mean no one will ever find them useful? No. Just because it doesn't fit the misguided notion of "deal a ton of damage" does not mean it's any less of a power now than it was before.

cubicledexter · November 2015

Does "seeing through stealth" include the stealth from teleportation travel powers, as well as powers that are supposed to protect me, like Evasive Maneuvers? I assume it does. Those last few GT are going to be painful to get.

I can see how these effects could easily be abused, but as it stands now, you either go at the OSV with a defensive power (or equivalent defenses on an uberbuild) slotted, or you just die. This is fair-ish, as I know I'm trading defense for more damage, but these are players and there's no aggro control. As soon as an OSV learns that any particular character is an easy kill, then that character is going to fall flat every thirty seconds or so.

Overall, I like the changes, even if some of them make living much harder. I hope future consideration will be put into making "tanks" look like juicier targets. Side note: I have no idea what Vile Challenge does, so if that fixes the above concerns, then yay!

jonsills · November 2015

cubicledexter said:
Does "seeing through stealth" include the stealth from teleportation travel powers, as well as powers that are supposed to protect me, like Evasive Maneuvers? I assume it does. Those last few GT are going to be painful to get.

I can see how these effects could easily be abused, but as it stands now, you either go at the OSV with a defensive power (or equivalent defenses on an uberbuild) slotted, or you just die. This is fair-ish, as I know I'm trading defense for more damage, but these are players and there's no aggro control. As soon as an OSV learns that any particular character is an easy kill, then that character is going to fall flat every thirty seconds or so.

And presumably they will eventually learn that dropping the same toon over and over nets them precisely zip. When you respawn, it's with a timer that prevents OVs from gaining anything for killing you again while it's running. Meanwhile, all the harder targets are still hitting them...

roughbearmattach · November 2015

raighn said:

There are many powers that fall into the category of "when will this be useful" does that make any of them useless? No. Does it mean no one will ever find them useful? No. Just because it doesn't fit the misguided notion of "deal a ton of damage" does not mean it's any less of a power now than it was before.

I didn't say that only doing more damage would work. I've offered two suggestions in this thread:

1. Increase damage to halfway between the old and new versions
2. Make the power just a tier 4, and not an Ultimate

Also,

3. Allow the power to affect Enforcers and Supervillains

I guess what I'm saying, @raighn , is that this sorta puts Endbringer's Grasp into the same set of powers like Dimensional Fracture, which do what they say, but are highly underperforming for an Ultimate you can only take at level 35+.

cyrone · November 2015

avianos said:
I agree, the Endbringer's Grasp should NOT have been NERFED like that, the Corruption Mind Control will only cause Problems

Shame to see such Visually beautiful "ULTIMATE" get downgraded like that, what a shame

At least Mind Link won't feel lonely now

Hey hey...watch that tone about my lovely Mind Link.

theravenforce · November 2015

roughbearmattach said:

When will this power (only chosen at level 35+) actually be useful, Ravenforce? A few missions on Monster Island where the mobs would die faster without putting them on your side? Against Rampage bosses? Against alerts that are brimming with Enforcers? How about timed alerts where mobs that have become friendly just run the clock?

I guess it could be useful in Skycarrier Defense.

I am not being sarcastic, just pointing out the very limited use of this power. It would be better suited, at this point, to just being a tier 4 power (with a bit smaller area and only 5 targets).

@roughbearmattach & @avianos

I'm not trying to over inflate it's value in combat, I only use it on one of my most recent characters who has a concept which can fit the power in.

I do agree it's a very niche ultimate, which is why I did suggest (on PTS forums) that it was adjusted to also convert Enforcer rank foes.

^ However, I don't think that is possible right now because the "Faction Conversion" effect is keyed specifically to very weak foes, so once they regain control of themselves they aren't too much of an issue (for players).

I guess that if enemies took a significant hit to HP, post corruption duration, that would increase it's usefulness as well, but in the main I use it in missions (haven't tried alerts yet) and still even post nerf, more often than not, enemies die outright before being converted.

I will say, the kind of Ultimate "everyone" was hoping EG would be, would (IMO) be better suited to a revamp of Planar Fracture. Give that power high DoT Damage in a large radius, in addition to the random debuff it places on enemies.

I would not support this power's Faction Conversion effect, affecting anything over Enforcer (so Master Villain and Super Villain would be out of the question). Reason for this is that Manipulator should be the only thing which allows for CC on higher level targets.

In light of the change, I would like to see a condition added to EG where:

1) Corruption works on Henchmen to Villain - Lasts 30 seconds (up from 21 seconds).

2) Enforcer and Master Villain, Other Champions (Players), Super Villain, Legendary & Cosmic rank foes, suffer from Disturbia. Disturbia is a debuff which decreases their resistance to Paranormal Damage from any source by 20%/40%/60% (Rank 1/2/3 respectively) for 30 seconds and reduces their movement speed by 50%. Disturbia lasts for 30 seconds.

To me that would still allow for EG to be called an Ultimate ability. It is just an Ultimate which is more utility focused than anything else.

wingedkagouti · November 2015

spookyspectre said:
- Onslaught Supervillains can now see through stealth and perception debuffs.

Well my squishy toons just got squishier and there's one more reason to just focus on dps and defense builds.

The main issue was probably the perception debuffs, which could prevent the OVs from targeting anything.

roughbearmattach · November 2015

@Ravenforce, I'm saying that though you rightly point out that EG is now a utility power, it's actual usefulness is very, very low.

A power that can only be taken by level 35+ toons, whose main effect is to control trash mobs, just isn't very useful.

Your proposed changes would be fine--applying a nice debuff to tougher foes would work, and would keep it as a utility power.

I just wish it was useful against foes that actually count in most fights and missions at high level: Enforcers, Supervillains, and Bosses.

Oh well. Neither your suggestions nor mine were taken. I will remove it from my two toons that have it the next time I log on.
One will go back to Gravity Driver (a much better Utility power), and the other will likely grab an AD he doesn't have, like Masterful Dodge. Meh.

xcelsior41 · November 2015

raighn said:

roughbearmattach said:

theravenforce said:
I'm pleased to see these patch notes, and yes.

That includes Endbringer's Grasp adjustments.

Endbringer's Grasp was designed to introduce a highly sought after mechanic (at least in crowd controller's eyes), "Super Roid Confuse" / Faction Conversion.

I am pleased that this ability will be more apparent with lower damage values, however, I do also see the issue with "non Henchman and Villain Targets" vs Endbringer's Grasp.

At the end of the day, the power still does damage, which you can compound with your own, so in my own opinion this is a welcome change.

So thanks again Dev Team!

(I would have probably held off on VC, but since we have immunity incoming it won't be too irritating)

When will this power (only chosen at level 35+) actually be useful, Ravenforce? A few missions on Monster Island where the mobs would die faster without putting them on your side? Against Rampage bosses? Against alerts that are brimming with Enforcers? How about timed alerts where mobs that have become friendly just run the clock?

I guess it could be useful in Skycarrier Defense.

I am not being sarcastic, just pointing out the very limited use of this power. It would be better suited, at this point, to just being a tier 4 power (with a bit smaller area and only 5 targets).
There are many powers that fall into the category of "when will this be useful" does that make any of them useless? No. Does it mean no one will ever find them useful? No. Just because it doesn't fit the misguided notion of "deal a ton of damage" does not mean it's any less of a power now than it was before.

It's an Ultimate, it's supposed to do a ton of damage, or why call it an ultimate? Personally, I feel they should have left the damage, but brought up the CC a tad bit, as to balance it out. I also feel they need to buff all ultimate's damage by abit to make them more worthwhile and get rid of this notion that all Ults should have low damage, because the current ones do.

rtma · November 2015

It's an Ultimate, it's supposed to do a ton of damage, or why call it an ultimate? Personally, I feel they should have left the damage, but brought up the CC a tad bit, as to balance it out. I also feel they need to buff all ultimate's damage by abit to make them more worthwhile and get rid of this notion that all Ults should have low damage, because the current ones do.

Considering like Rank 3 Ebon Rift doing ~ the Same as Planer Fracter for a tenth of it's cooldown, needs to be considered bumping up the damage for Ultimates for it's cooldown. (UR is fine as it is)

pantagruel01 · November 2015

xcelsior41 said:
It's an Ultimate, it's supposed to do a ton of damage, or why call it an ultimate?

Ultimates are supposed to do something impressive, but that something doesn't have to be damage. The problem is that the mind control effect... isn't very impressive.

riverocean · November 2015

roughbearmattach wrote: »

I'm pleased to see these patch notes, and yes.

When will this power (only chosen at level 35+) actually be useful, Ravenforce? A few missions on Monster Island where the mobs would die faster without putting them on your side? Against Rampage bosses? Against alerts that are brimming with Enforcers? How about timed alerts where mobs that have become friendly just run the clock?

I guess it could be useful in Skycarrier Defense.

I am not being sarcastic, just pointing out the very limited use of this power. It would be better suited, at this point, to just being a tier 4 power (with a bit smaller area and only 5 targets).

My guess is that the devs are planning for future content. At least according to the recent State of the Game announcement we can expect tougher enemies and challenges. So in the current game that mechanic might not be so awesome -- but if future content has tougher to beat mobs you might be very thankful for some crowd control mechanic.

theravenforce · November 2015

riverocean said:
but if future content has tougher to beat mobs you might be very thankful for some crowd control mechanic.

That is a truly wonderful thought ~

roughbearmattach · November 2015

Hmm...I wonder how it works inside a level 40 lair like Andrith.

Sadly, I would only be doing Andrith to see if Endbringer's Grasp were effective there. Still going to dump it.

Weak damage + interesting CC effect =/= good power

xcelsior41 · November 2015

roughbearmattach said:

Still going to dump it.

Weak damage + interesting CC effect =/= good power

Agreed

raighn · November 2015

I find it really hard to take ya'll seriously when you try to claim that:

roughbearmattach said:
I didn't say that only doing more damage would work.

When you repeatedly state that the power needs to do more damage to be useful or considered an ultimate.

So EG doesn't do tremendous amounts of damage anymore, big whoop. The power is a CC Ult first and foremost, It's the first and byfar best CC improvement we have gotten in years. Could the CC effect use some improvements? Certainly. Does the damage need to be buffed back up? No, not really.

roughbearmattach · November 2015

roughbearmattach said:

A power that can only be taken by level 35+ toons, whose main effect is to control trash mobs, just isn't very useful.

Your proposed changes would be fine--applying a nice debuff to tougher foes would work, and would keep it as a utility power.

I just wish it was useful against foes that actually count in most fights and missions at high level: Enforcers, Supervillains, and Bosses.

@raighn
You may have missed this message.
Ravenforce's suggestion would be good, but my bolded point still stands. It doesn't need to do more damage to be useful in tough fights. It just needs to be useful in tough fights. Otherwise, it's not much of an Ultimate Power (like most of the others).

cubicledexter · November 2015

jonsills said:

cubicledexter said:
Does "seeing through stealth" include the stealth from teleportation travel powers, as well as powers that are supposed to protect me, like Evasive Maneuvers? I assume it does. Those last few GT are going to be painful to get.

I can see how these effects could easily be abused, but as it stands now, you either go at the OSV with a defensive power (or equivalent defenses on an uberbuild) slotted, or you just die. This is fair-ish, as I know I'm trading defense for more damage, but these are players and there's no aggro control. As soon as an OSV learns that any particular character is an easy kill, then that character is going to fall flat every thirty seconds or so.
And presumably they will eventually learn that dropping the same toon over and over nets them precisely zip. When you respawn, it's with a timer that prevents OVs from gaining anything for killing you again while it's running. Meanwhile, all the harder targets are still hitting them...

I did note "every thirty seconds". It's right up there in the last paragraph of the block you quoted.

Also, that debuff seems to be a bit wishy-washy. It doesn't always stick. Either that, or my perception of thirty seconds is really, really off.

I'll also add that, debuff or no debuff, it's just good tactics to take an easy kill when that easy kill is doing lots of damage. If the OSV player recognizes that a high-damage character is beating on them, and the OSV player knows how easy it is to kill that character, it's smart to kill that character. The OSV can take thirty seconds of damage or they can just stomp them outright.

Either way, I'm dead. It sounds like Evasive Maneuvers and Teleport won't save me anymore.

raighn · November 2015

I think your perception of 30s is really, really off... I'm fairly certain that the Defeated debuff lasts atleast 1 minute...

crypticbuxom · November 2015

Really? Snowballs? So its intended to use your permanent device, made for fun stuff, as little as possible? At least reduce the cooldown of Dried Mistletoe to 30 then. Bolstering the "always nerfs never buffs" narrative.

Can we get the Ultimate to do increased damage against targets that are resistant against the Crowd Control effect? Preventing content where CC is most needed from being used at all is another disappointing trend that continues in this game.

hasukurobi · November 2015

crypticbuxom said:

Can we get the Ultimate to do increased damage against targets that are resistant against the Crowd Control effect? Preventing content where CC is most needed from being used at all is another disappointing trend that continues in this game.

^This. In sooooo many games CC is useless because it is never allowed to work on the foes that you NEED it to work on. Same here. At LEAST you could offer some sort of good debuff or extra damage to those immune things so that by nerfing the damage you do not just basically make it worthless.

For anyone who is suggesting that trying to make its CC power stronger at the cost of its damage is some kind of good trade-off you are just simply wrong. Why? Because the CC only effects the weakest enemies. What is better? A dead weak enemy or a weak enemy that will lightly sting stronger enemies briefly? You guessed it... Dead. I would much rather just kill off the trash mobs then have them fight for me for a brief time. There is basically no situation where being able to turn weak trash mobs to your side briefly is really going to help. At the very least if they died afterward guaranteed then that would be sliiightly better.

Annoyingly I do use this on one character and I really liked it for the Fear applications, damage, and its animation. Now I will need to get rid of it and that is not going to be easy because I do not have any retrain tokens and I did not leave it as the very last power. So great. Now I have to work up a load of G's because they made this thing more of a liability than a benefit. Thanks a lot... *Heavy Sarcasm*

roughbearmattach · November 2015

hasukurobi said:

Annoyingly I do use this on one character and I really liked it for the Fear applications, damage, and its animation. Now I will need to get rid of it and that is not going to be easy because I do not have any retrain tokens and I did not leave it as the very last power. So great. Now I have to work up a load of G's because they made this thing more of a liability than a benefit. Thanks a lot... *Heavy Sarcasm*

Sadly, I did this, too. I didn't think the power would be changed so greatly, so it is the first or second power on one of my toons, who lacks a retrain token.

theravenforce · November 2015

Fun fact. Endbringer's Grasp's Faction conversion effect is only keyed to normal enemies. As a result it does not work on Skull Tech enemies.

spinnytop · November 2015

gradii said:

cubicledexter said:

jonsills said:

cubicledexter said:
Does "seeing through stealth" include the stealth from teleportation travel powers, as well as powers that are supposed to protect me, like Evasive Maneuvers? I assume it does. Those last few GT are going to be painful to get.

I can see how these effects could easily be abused, but as it stands now, you either go at the OSV with a defensive power (or equivalent defenses on an uberbuild) slotted, or you just die. This is fair-ish, as I know I'm trading defense for more damage, but these are players and there's no aggro control. As soon as an OSV learns that any particular character is an easy kill, then that character is going to fall flat every thirty seconds or so.
And presumably they will eventually learn that dropping the same toon over and over nets them precisely zip. When you respawn, it's with a timer that prevents OVs from gaining anything for killing you again while it's running. Meanwhile, all the harder targets are still hitting them...
I did note "every thirty seconds". It's right up there in the last paragraph of the block you quoted.

Also, that debuff seems to be a bit wishy-washy. It doesn't always stick. Either that, or my perception of thirty seconds is really, really off.

I'll also add that, debuff or no debuff, it's just good tactics to take an easy kill when that easy kill is doing lots of damage. If the OSV player recognizes that a high-damage character is beating on them, and the OSV player knows how easy it is to kill that character, it's smart to kill that character. The OSV can take thirty seconds of damage or they can just stomp them outright.

Either way, I'm dead. It sounds like Evasive Maneuvers and Teleport won't save me anymore.
These ill conceived changes to OVs have made me decide to take another break from CO. as it stands now STO is a far superior and better looked after game.

I used to have fun fighting, and yes being defeated by OVs. but this is excessive and changes a tough fight into a "why bother" fight. So long Onslaught it had potential but they ruined it as expected.

I on the other hand am going to start playing more, so the population won't change at all. One out, one in

hasukurobi · November 2015

theravenforce said:
Fun fact. Endbringer's Grasp's Faction conversion effect is only keyed to normal enemies. As a result it does not work on Skull Tech enemies.

Actually... It is bugged it seems because I have gotten it to work on Skulls yesterday. Now if that bug extends to higher level enemies then I will shut up immediately and be fine with the change LOL.

pantagruel01 · November 2015

hasukurobi said:

Actually... It is bugged it seems because I have gotten it to work on Skulls yesterday. Now if that bug extends to higher level enemies then I will shut up immediately and be fine with the change LOL.

If it's got a level check (in addition to a rank check), it might be using the real (hidden) level of skull tech enemies.

theravenforce · November 2015

hasukurobi said:

Actually... It is bugged it seems because I have gotten it to work on Skulls yesterday. Now if that bug extends to higher level enemies then I will shut up immediately and be fine with the change LOL.

I'm using mine at level 40 vs Nighthawk Thugs in open world. Doesn't appear to be working on my end. What were the circumstances you used yours in?

EDIT: Just tried it again, post patch and it's now working on Skull Tech enemies.

hasukurobi · December 2015

theravenforce said:
>
I'm using mine at level 40 vs Nighthawk Thugs in open world. Doesn't appear to be working on my end. What were the circumstances you used yours in?

EDIT: Just tried it again, post patch and it's now working on Skull Tech enemies.

Mine was on a lvl 40 character against Nighthawk's goons. It seemed to just work on them decently reliably. So I wonder what the deal is there.

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