There's now a timer on post edits?

championshewolf · August 2015

OK, who on the back end thought that was a smart idea? The various bug threads in the bug report forums that I and several other prominent posters require that we be able to edit to remove or update the posts as new bugs are found or old bugs are removed. And that's a for instance. Why was a limited timer put on post editing?

jonsills · August 2015

That's a bad idea for lots of reasons. Sometimes you're trying to keep a current list of bugs, like the Shewolf up there, and need to update because a bug has been fixed (or a new one found, or even more often both). Sometimes you're writing fanfic (there's an active community of writers on the STO forums) and want to go in and edit a story. (Hawku ran into this issue when he realized he'd left out a couple of paragraphs from his latest crackfic, and was unable to edit it.) Sometimes there's just some typo or grammatical error that you didn't notice at first, but then you see it and it starts to really bug you, only if the timer's expired now you can't fix it.

First the new post length limitations, now this. Are y'all trying to drive people to alternative forums?

Edit: And now you've even screwed up the old BBcode. Good job.

aiqa · August 2015

This is a very bad idea, please change it back to how it was.

biffsmackwell · August 2015

I don't see what the problem is. I can still edit posts.

Just kidding, I think it's a pretty bad idea. I'm sure someone had a reason for it, but I'd like to hear what that is.

In the meantime, you could bug the moderators to make changes to your various posts.

kaiserin · August 2015

But yeah, horrible idea. Hopefully this was just an oops.

iamrune · August 2015

How short are we talking, here?

I make edits for typos and such all the time, comes from mild dyslexia.

Edit [1 hour] And fat fingers.

Yep, terrible idea. Please fix it!

championshewolf · August 2015

iamrune said:
How short are we talking, here?

I make edits for typos and such all the time, comes from mild dyslexia.

Edit [1 hour] And fat fingers.

Yep, terrible idea. Please fix it!

Yea. I tend to edit a post over a period of time as I think of things to add to said post, constantly re-read and realize some grammatical error needs to be fixed, or I decide something I said was a bit too harsh (even if the people I was stating it about deserve harsher).

Needless to say, I don't like this, not one bit.

spinnytop · August 2015

kaizerin said:

But yeah, horrible idea. Hopefully this was just an oops.

Also is it just me or did quotes have like... something to differentiate them better from the rest of the post before?

carrionbaggage · August 2015

Even the Edit button got a cooldown reduction nerf.

p0temk1n · August 2015

Yeah, I can't edit the forum CC schedule anymore. This is pretty pants-on-head.

championshewolf · August 2015

I am still trying to imagine what this change was for. Not to mention my custom title is gone, I can't use my tampermonkey script anymore (even updated it) and the backend has even less on it than before. I don't get this anymore.

Not to mention pinging mods to edit my posts I bet will get old fast.

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kaiserin · August 2015

I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults. (omg why does bbcode not work?)

chaelk · August 2015

kaizerin wrote: »

I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults. (omg why does bbcode not work?)

because the forums have been 'fixed'
for those who haven't yet. go to the Forum rules thread at the top, by PWlaughingtrendy and read through all the things you are not allowed to do.
That will give you an idea.

pantagruel01 · August 2015

kaizerin said:
I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults. (omg why does bbcode not work?)

Because they've decided to go with Simple HTML instead. Which, other than being a surprise, is probably an upgrade from bbcode (this is not always a feature, of course).

chaelk · August 2015

so now the forum enhancer has to be swapped to html, so that the line of buttons for text adjusting works.

cynicool · August 2015

I really don't know what their obsession is with making their forums uglier and harder to use is, but this is some Don Quixote level of insanity.

iamrune · August 2015

cynicool said:
I really don't know what

Hey cynicool, I appreciate you man, and I'ma let you finish, but can you do something about that huge-I-normous sig pic you use?

It feels at least twice as big as it should be and the width is breaking the forum at the screen scale I browse at.

meedacthunist · August 2015

jonsills wrote: »

First the new post length limitations, now this.

Wait, there's a limitation now? Oh boy, this is comedy gold.

jonsills · August 2015

meedacthunist said:

jonsills wrote: »

First the new post length limitations, now this.

Wait, there's a limitation now? Oh boy, this is comedy gold.

For a while, we'd gotten the text limit raised to 24k characters, which sounds like a lot until you start reading the latest chapter of, say, the Masterverse saga on the STO forums. Now it's 8k - even the really short stories start to run up against the limit.

pantagruel01 · August 2015

Wow, this is hilarious. Different threads use different concepts of what markup is allowed.

meedacthunist · August 2015

http://champions-online.proboards.com/

But STO has no such forum, so...

cynicool · August 2015

iamrune wrote: »

I really don't know what

Hey cynicool, I appreciate you man, and I'ma let you finish, but can you do something about that huge-I-normous sig pic you use?

It feels at least twice as big as it should be and the width is breaking the forum at the screen scale I browse at.

You know, at first I was going to comply, but then I noticed Chaelk's sigpic above me and the lack of a public callout on that one and I thought to myself "he can disable signatures in his options." Cheers!

themightyzenith · August 2015

Signature/Avatar Rule Violation
The total signature size must be no larger than 650x250 pixels if it contains an image. The text in the signature may be customized in use on the forums.

Maybe you and chaelk could both comply with the above rule.

flyingfinn · August 2015

Our End Game has been ruined!!!
Again!!

circleofpsi · August 2015

kaizerin said:
I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults.

Oh yeah?, well how come they are not doing anything about it?, countless links don't work, the PTS/Live Notes are not updated, countless bugs, and on top of all that, there has been no reposes to some posted topics.

Or do they only care about players, hurting their feelings?

championshewolf · August 2015

cryneting said:

kaizerin said:
I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults.
Oh yeah?, well how come they are not doing anything about it?, countless links don't work, the PTS/Live Notes are not updated, countless bugs, and on top of all that, there has been no reposes to some posted topics.

Or do they only care about players, hurting their feelings?

Because many old links went to the old web addresses and there for don't work anymore.

cynicool · August 2015

themightyzenith wrote: »

Signature/Avatar Rule Violation
The total signature size must be no larger than 650x250 pixels if it contains an image. The text in the signature may be customized in use on the forums.

Maybe you and chaelk could both comply with the above rule.

Okay I cut out the text and made sure my sigpic is no higher than 250 pixels. Better or worse? Also: Congrats on your moderator title!

somebob · August 2015

Remember, everyone - Cryptic had absolutely nothing to do with this. This is all PWE's fault.

It's very very clear they don't have the slightest idea how to properly run a forum (heck - they CLONED the forums with this latest 'upgrade' due to their incompetence) and their constant changing of things on a moment's notice while the forums WERE RUNNING (like going from BBCode to SimpleHTML with a flip of a switch, but ONLY for your sig - everything else is still BBCode) continues to show this.

You know a forum is bad when you have to go get a Greasemonkey script to give back some of the features we used to have and to make the place a tad more readable and usable.

spinnytop · August 2015

cryneting said:

kaizerin said:
I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults.
Oh yeah?, well how come they are not doing anything about it?, countless links don't work, the PTS/Live Notes are not updated, countless bugs, and on top of all that, there has been no reposes to some posted topics.

Or do they only care about players, hurting their feelings?

Are you even sure who "they" are?

themightyzenith · August 2015

cynicool said:

Okay I cut out the text and made sure my sigpic is no higher than 250 pixels. Better or worse? Also: Congrats on your moderator title!

I was quoting pwlaughingtrendy and made a suggestion. I also wasn't the only one to comment on your sigpic size. Also, i believe that you commented on the size of another forum poster's sigpic.....maybe we could share the mod title on a 50/50 basis.

circleofpsi · August 2015

Whoops Dabble Post

circleofpsi · August 2015

championshewolf said:

cryneting said:

kaizerin said:
I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults.
Oh yeah?, well how come they are not doing anything about it?, countless links don't work, the PTS/Live Notes are not updated, countless bugs, and on top of all that, there has been no reposes to some posted topics.

Or do they only care about players, hurting their feelings?
Because many old links went to the old web addresses and there for don't work anymore.

spinnytop said:

cryneting said:

kaizerin said:
I know the forums are a mess, but let's not start throwing crude insults.
Oh yeah?, well how come they are not doing anything about it?, countless links don't work, the PTS/Live Notes are not updated, countless bugs, and on top of all that, there has been no reposes to some posted topics.

Or do they only care about players, hurting their feelings?
Are you even sure who "they" are?

Oh.....Right...

My bad sorry!

Also Does anyone check the Q&A forms now?, like the Fox-bat one or Free To Play?, Cuz..its not been looked at, or has the forms messed it up?

cynicool · August 2015

Mhm. I was using another person's sigpic as an example to figure out why I merited the individual callout. You toss a rule my way to add to the dogpile. How about we share "never directly addressing each other again."

themightyzenith · August 2015

cynicool said:
Mhm. I was using another person's sigpic as an example to figure out why I merited the individual callout. You toss a rule my way to add to the dogpile. How about we share "never directly addressing each other again."

The person who originally commented on your sigpic said why. It was because your sigpic was "..at least twice as big as it should be and the width is breaking the forum at the screen scale..". The person's sigpic that you called out wasn't. But you have changed yours now so that's great.

I'll address who I like, Mr. Mod

But to get back to the original topic, this needs to change. The no time limit edit function was only ever a good thing for these forums. For example to cleanly keep track of bug lists, unlockable costume parts lists, lists of builds, and for those who hate to see spelling mistakes in something they typed over an hour ago.

biffsmackwell · August 2015

cynicool said:
Mhm. I was using another person's sigpic as an example to figure out why I merited the individual callout. You toss a rule my way to add to the dogpile. How about we share "never directly addressing each other again."

On my computer your sig looked fine. On my iPad, it was gigantic, breaking through the right margin of the forum. It was pretty obnoxious, and my guess is that you're probably using a browser that doesn't show you the obnoxious version (as I am) and others might be using a browser that does show the gigantic one.

I didn't look too far into it to try and figure out what the problem was, but I appreciate you switching the image.

chaelk · August 2015

cynicool wrote: »

iamrune wrote: »

I really don't know what

Hey cynicool, I appreciate you man, and I'ma let you finish, but can you do something about that huge-I-normous sig pic you use?

It feels at least twice as big as it should be and the width is breaking the forum at the screen scale I browse at.

You know, at first I was going to comply, but then I noticed Chaelk's sigpic above me and the lack of a public callout on that one and I thought to myself "he can disable signatures in his options." Cheers!

themightyzenith wrote: »

Signature/Avatar Rule Violation
The total signature size must be no larger than 650x250 pixels if it contains an image. The text in the signature may be customized in use on the forums.

Maybe you and chaelk could both comply with the above rule.

I have the worse signatures on hide. Like the flashing baby metal one. Makes it a lot easier.

That is the same picture I had on the old forums, after shrinking it because it shot off the side of the page.
ok checked the image on photobucket and

so its 50 under on length and 5 over on height
signature%202_zpszooqqjf4.png

Now it's 650 x 250 and even bigger, well done. I prefer the smaller one.

nepht · August 2015

themightyzenith said:
Signature/Avatar Rule Violation
The total signature size must be no larger than 650x250 pixels if it contains an image. The text in the signature may be customized in use on the forums.

Maybe you and chaelk could both comply with the above rule.

What in the world...I have seen some anal stuff in my life but this is up there...its just up there.

Its story time kiddos lets read some PWE Forum TOS rules.

I guess I might have broke this one myself by quoting you >_>"

pwlaughingtrendy said:
Report violations, do not quote them or reply to them. Responding to a violation in an inflammatory manner is a violation in itself and will result in appropriate action. It is also important to not abuse the Ticket system by excessively reporting posts, sending false alarms, or nonsensical messages. Abuse of the Ticket system can result in an infraction for spamming.

This ones my fave though

pwlaughingtrendy said:

Impersonating a PWE Employee
You may not create posts and/or private messages that allude to and/or contain language, comments, references, links, symbols, terms and/or imagery that, in any manner whether directly or indirectly, attempt to impersonate a PWE employee.

Blinking heck that edit timer is a right pain in peaches huh ._.

zedbrightlander1 · August 2015

jonsills said:
That's a bad idea for lots of reasons. Sometimes you're trying to keep a current list of bugs, like the Shewolf up there, and need to update because a bug has been fixed (or a new one found, or even more often both). Sometimes you're writing fanfic (there's an active community of writers on the STO forums) and want to go in and edit a story. (Hawku ran into this issue when he realized he'd left out a couple of paragraphs from his latest crackfic, and was unable to edit it.) Sometimes there's just some typo or grammatical error that you didn't notice at first, but then you see it and it starts to really bug you, only if the timer's expired now you can't fix it.

First the new post length limitations, now this. Are y'all trying to drive people to alternative forums?

Edit: And now you've even screwed up the old BBcode. Good job.

It's also important for editing Guides or Builds. It's a change that needs undoing.

themightyzenith · August 2015

nepht said:

I have seen some anal stuff in my life

Too much information.

nepht · August 2015

themightyzenith said:

nepht said:

I have seen some anal stuff in my life

Too much information.

I really do try hard to dislike you. But then you go do something like that. Your like Spongebob

championshewolf · August 2015

nepht said:

themightyzenith said:

nepht said:

I have seen some anal stuff in my life

Too much information.

I really do try hard to dislike you. But then you go do something like that. Your like Spongebob

That should be instant hate. No one should like SpongeBob... like ever.

nepht · August 2015

championshewolf said:

nepht said:

themightyzenith said:

nepht said:

I have seen some anal stuff in my life

Too much information.

I really do try hard to dislike you. But then you go do something like that. Your like Spongebob

That should be instant hate. No one should like SpongeBob... like ever.

Thats Sponge'o'phobic.

spinnytop · August 2015

nepht said:

championshewolf said:

nepht said:

themightyzenith said:

nepht said:

I have seen some anal stuff in my life

Too much information.

I really do try hard to dislike you. But then you go do something like that. Your like Spongebob

That should be instant hate. No one should like SpongeBob... like ever.
Thats Sponge'o'phobic.

But hating Patrick is fine right?

championshewolf · August 2015

Seems the edit button has returned. Yay for collective bitching

pantagruel01 · August 2015

Next thing to fix: some threads use bbcode, some threads use simple html (probably based on thread creation time). Simple Html seems more featured and an upgrade, but it would be nice to do some conversion so all threads use the same markup rules.

chaelk · August 2015

championshewolf wrote: »

Seems the edit button has returned. Yay for collective bitching

close you just have to put the complaint in the right place.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/championsonline/#/discussion/1202903/ladygadfly-you-have-a-few-problems

also just went to edit my altaholic thread and got told it's over character limit. I'm damn sure that isn't 8000 characters. copied to Word and did count.
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There's now a timer on post edits?

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