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spinnytop
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Post here every time you do a pvp, with a listing of the final score of the match. It can be like a newspaper.
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Am I doing it right?
Okay, Last B.A.S.H I participated In I got 0 Points/Most Defeats, Sorcery Build didn't get anywhere and being spawn killed wasn't fun either, lovely enough for you?
I take this quote from a review that I agree with.
"customisation is so linear; everyone is after the optimal dps:survivability ratio with 0 reliance on other players = autonomous gameplay... Players don't need each other anymore... which in my opinion is a bad thing."
Nobody requested lovely.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
sugoi!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
@Pallih in game
Kawaii desu ne!?!
B-baka!
A Playlist of my CO PvP video's (starting from post nerf PTS team duels)
The thing to keep in Mind if you are new to the Hero Games is that you are probably going to come up against people who:
1. Have been playing the Hero Games a lot longer than you and have experience fighting against a variety of builds.
2. Have built their characters in such a way that they are optimized to achieve a certain purpose.
You may also run into some jerky people along the way, but just remember that even though they may seem "loud" and obnoxious, they are usually the minority.
If someone is trying to continuously spawn kill you, you can always just not recover until they move on or leave the match and come back during another game.
With time and experience, you will learn what tactics to use in different situations against different people/builds. That's what makes the Hero Games fun in my opinion. You can play the same game 100 times and each game be completely different depending on who is there and what they are trying to do.
One last note, you don't have to give up on your own build/theme. Optimize it. Be the best you you can be. lol It might not feel the best when you get defeated, but the points you do get will feel a whole lot better knowing you got them playing your way and not someone else's. :redface:
Scores from BASH Game 1 (unrestricted)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game (unrestricted)
Another Score from BASH Game 2 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 3 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 4 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 5 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 6 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 7 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 8 (unrestricted) (Small match which ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game 2 (unrestricted)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game 3 (unrestricted)
Scores from UTC Cage Match 1 (unrestricted) (Mammon wasn't actually there fighting.)
Scores from UTC Cage Match 2 (unrestricted) (HolyFire and Axel weren't actually there fighting.)
Scores from Stronghold Match 1 (unrestricted)
Scores from King of the Hill Match 1 (unrestricted)
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Scores from BASH Game 9 (unrestricted) (I actually entered this match quite late. When I got there, someone already had 9 points, so I started attacking them. We went 1 on 1 for awhile until I fell into one of those train cars/crates or whatever they are. I glitched and continued to stay in the falling animation unable to use any powers, thus could only watch as I took damage by my opponent until I was defeated which ended the game. Even after the game, I stayed in the falling animation until leaving the map which was weird. I cannot say for certain why one person has so many defeats and few points while two others have many points since I was not there for most of the match, but it just doesn't look good.)
Scores from BASH Game 10 (unrestricted) This match. It is these types of matches that help to give the Hero Games, the people who play them, and PvP in general a bad name. In this match were two perpetrators of bad behavior and bad attitudes.
Person 1 pretty consistently has a bad attitude and displays/instigates bad behavior during gameplay. It is a vast difference from what I have personally experienced and seen from a majority of the people who play the Hero Games. While most tend to be friendly and even considerate during gameplay, this person tends to be malicious and down right vindictive. For example, this person started this match with one character, then in order to try to grief other players, they came in the match with a "troll" build.
We can talk about how it is the game's fault for allowing certain powers/power combinations to be possible, but I think the players can also take some accountability for how they use powers, especially if they like them in their current state. For example, if someone likes the way a power works, they should probably keep it to themselves and avoid abusing it against other players. Otherwise they run the risk of other people complaining about it and the power/combination of powers getting "nerfed". Anyways, I digress.
As for Person 2, I have played Hero Games with them a lot and they can even be seen in quite a few of the screenshots I have posted here before today. They are usually (from what I have seen) neutral in their behaviors and can even be considerate at times. They seem to just be influenced by Person 1's bad behavior to behave likewise for whatever reason.
I have seen these types of people many times before and they really don't bother me personally. The issue is the negative effect on the PvP community as a whole. The whole mood and atmosphere of the match went negative just because of Person 1. Many people's picture of what PvP is and what the Hero Games are was painted by people like Person 1 who's behaviors and attitudes make up a small minority of our community.
I was glad to see that there were other people in the match as well, not using fowl language, or threatening vengeance, or threatening a war, but just there in solidarity. Fighting for what is right. Fighting for our reputations. Fighting for the Hero Games.
I really do hope that we all (even the toxic minority) can come together to make the Hero Games a fun, competitive, and welcoming part of this game. I much rather be inclusive than exclusive. However, if I am around, I will not stand idly by, while certain behaviors are going on that could hurt our reputation as a community and will do what I can to try to help. Will you join me? :redface:
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
I'm a terrible terrible person, right ? But.. i really want the macho belt.
I'll clean my conscience with a terrible "pah ! It's only fair considering the amount of times i've been farmed myself" i guess.. yuck
(°∇° ) #megalodon2015
notice OP didn't mention bash but yet it all becomes about bash..............
Ok. I will explain my posts in further detail since there seems to be some confusion. Let's first take a look at the OP.
What I have been doing is taking a screenshot of each of the final scores of all the Hero Games that I have been in and then posting them here. I also add some notes and/or commentary to some of the matches that I feel could use some explaining or just more information. Kinda like how you can also find sports articles in newspapers and sports commentators on tv etc.
So I am not only doing the assignment, but also extra credit as well.
As for why I have posted so many more BASH matches when compared to other hero game matches, well, the answer is quite simple. I have played more BASH matches.(This has been the tend since on alert launched.)
BASH requires the least amount of people to actually start a game, so it is usually the first one to start and the easiest to start even with it being the Hero Game that arguable has the most vocalized bias against it.
Some days I only play 1 or 2 BASH matches.
What do you mean you "suck" at BASH? Is it that you are inexperienced in BASH matches in general? How many matches have you played? Could it be that whoever you interacted with in BASH just had strengths that correlated to your weaknesses? What about your build and playstyle and how that interacts with other people's builds and playstyles? Does that make a difference to you? What about gear? Have you thought about maybe a difference in gear being an issue?
Scores from BASH Game 11 (unrestricted) (Small match which ended in a draw.)
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lol. Thanks for the support!~ :redface:
Scores from BASH Game 12 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 13 (unrestricted (game ended in a draw)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game 4 (unrestricted)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game 5 (unrestricted)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game 6 (unrestricted) (Survivors Held off Zombies!)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse Game 7 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH Game 14 (unrestricted) This game started out with 3 of us there. One person (will call them A) had an obvious advantage and was targeting a squishier character (will call them
Since they were in the lead and had the obvious advantage, I started attacking A to even out the match. This helped both I and B to gain 2 points while A also still gained a point from defeating B again.
All of a sudden, two more participants (C and D) appeared. I thought they would add more variety, but it seemed like they were only targeting B and I who were barely even, to being at a disadvantage against A alone. At first I was oblivious to what was going on and I was defeat by the 3 (A,C and D).
Noticing them all attacking B, I said in chat "Pay attention to the scores and who is leading".
B then said A is farming a squishy build and an AT.
A responded I knew you would say that after teaming with that AT.
The match continued on in this matter with no more speaking. I could have suggested that B not recover, but B is someone who does the Hero Games often and they were just on a newer build. I wasn't sure if saying that would offend them or worse, make them want to retaliate with negative behavior on another one of their builds. (Hopefully this whole experience won't make them want to do that as well) I also could have talked out more about what my motives were behind my actions, but I was too busy trying to avoid being defeated and trying to stop the 3 from attacking B. Looking back, it probably would have done more good to take another defeat and spend the rest of the match pointing out why they were not justified in what they were doing.
At the end of the match A said That's what you get for teaming.
I responded "Are you serious? You were leading."
There is a a difference between attacking someone because they are in the lead or teaming against someone because they have an obvious advantage over someone else they are attacking and farming vs teaming against someone who is at a disadvantage for the purpose of farming.
When you target the people who are leading, it can help matches to last longer while also allowing the distribution of points to be more spread out, thus everyone gets more acclaim and the overall experience of the game is more competitive and fun without being too vicious and exploitative toward characters at a disadvantage. This can be seen in quite a few of the BASH matches I have posted already, for example BASH Games 5, 6, and 7.
The screenshot of BASH Game 16 looks darker because I also took a screenshot of the chat for... reasons.. Anyway, I did not have enough time to take another shot of the scores alone before being removed from the match, but the scores should still be visible behind the chat screen.
Scores from BASH Game 15 (unrestricted) (I entered this match really late, so didn't see a whole lot of what happened.)
Scores from BASH Game 16 (unrestricted) (The 3, A,C and D were working together again from the start. Seemingly neutral player takes the win.)
Scores from BASH Game 17 (unrestricted) (The 3, A,C, and D were working together again and seemed determined to try to farm someone. Seemingly neutral player who won BASH 16 however did take up a lot of A's attention though. Seemingly neutral player takes the win again.)
Scores from BASH Game 18 (unrestricted) (One person seemed to be targeted and farmed by someone who is usually against this behavior. I do not know any backstory behind this or if there is any. What I do know is farming someone is not ok. (Even if they are a clone or whatever) I tried to help the person who was getting farmed, but this person routinely has a higher number of defeats anyway. I think they are still gearing and working with their build.)
Scores from BASH Game 19 (unrestricted) (I came into this match after it started. The same person seemed to be getting farmed again and they were upset about it. The person being farmed said that they were leaving and "just wait", probably eluding to them not being optimized yet. I then said, that farming someone is not ok and that people should treat each other the way they want to be treated. Promptly after saying that, I was attacked quite aggressive by someone. After getting away, I then said "Unless you like the Hero Game queues being empty and people hating the Hero Games. After that, the rest of the match played out very civilly.)
Scores from BASH Game 20 (unrestricted) ( At first glance it may look like someone was farmed here, but someone with a squishier build just kept getting hit with AOE burst damage mostly because they were in very close range of others. Taking that into account, the spread of points in this match was pretty good.)
Also this was the First day of The Hero Games Challenge - AT Edition. There was some confusion about some terms used (for example using the term "tier 4" threw some people off even after telling them that it just meant people lvl 31-40), but I think this was definitely a good start, especially for this to have been only advertised in one forum post, a little before the event and then during the event. With consistency, this will definitely get more ATs queuing for the Hero Games. Now, on with the scores:
Scores from BASH 21 (unrestricted) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 22 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH 1 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 2 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
This was only the second day of having "The Hero Games Challenge- AT Edition" and already more people have expressed interest in participating. Some have said they are leveling their ATs for this purpose, but time will tell if this is the case. I also received a few private messages from people who seemed to have little knowledge of the Hero Games at all and I walked them through how/where to queue for them. Something else noteworthy would be that I have been seeing also some new faces (or at least some faces I haven't seen in quite a while) also in the unrestricted queues of the Hero Games as well. Now, on with the scores:
Scores from BASH 23 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH 24 (unrestricted)
Scors from Zombie Apocalypse 8 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH 3 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 1 (Archetype)
I did not play any Archetype matches today, but I did notice while "The Hero Games Challenge - AT edition was going on and I was advertising it, unrestricted Hero Game matches were popping like BASH and Zombie Apocalypse. Also during The Challenge, I had some conversations in zone chat about The Hero Games and people's feelings towards them. Many people's negative opinions seem to be based off of:
1.Things they have heard about the Hero Games.
2. An experience that they may have had with certain players in the Hero Games, but they are associating it with the Hero Games as a whole and/or the pvp community.
Talking things out and presenting facts can definitely help people to realize that a lot of the negative stereotypes for the Hero Games are actually only done by a minority of players a minority of the time. Anyways, on with the scores:
Scores from BASH 25 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH 26 (unrestricted) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 27 (unrestricted) (Shadow Strike/ it's use in conjunction with a hold power will be nerfed if people like this keep using it against other players in this way. Don't say I didn't warn you. :rolleyes: Also, seemed like another player was there either helping the "hold, then Shadow Strike" user, or they were just not paying attention to the points.)
Scores from BASH 28 (unrestricted) (Another match with the "hold, then Shadow Strike" user.)
Same person perpetuating same negative stereotype with same build.
Scores from BASH 4 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 5 (Archetype) (Though it may look like it, no one was intentionally farmed here. One person was just a lot more squishy than the others and kept running into the Fray.)
Scores from BASH 29 (unrestricted) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 6 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 7 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 30 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH 8 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 9 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 2 (Archetype) (Survivors Held off Zombies!)
Scores from BASH 31 (unrestricted) (One person has a lot more defeats than anyone else because of a "hold, then Shadow Strike" user (not the person who got 10 points first). People use that build in PvP to try to troll others. It's too bad that people like that make nerfs necessary.
Scores from BASH 10 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 32 (unrestricted) (Matched ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 9 (unrestricted) (I lagged out of this match several times. When I finally came back stable, the match was over.)
Scores from Stronghold Prison 2 (unrestricted) (Everyone Wins! ^_^ )
Scores from BASH 33 (unrestricted)
Scores from BASH 11 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 3 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 34 (unrestricted) (May look like someone was farmed, but they weren't. Just had a level 31 person who wasn't avoiding close range AOE and would not back away when they were low on health. I told them they should try to get away when they are low on health, but they wouldn't listen... Or maybe they just didn't understand me.)
Scores from BASH 12 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 13 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 4 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 14 (Archetype) (One person had very high damage, but was also very squishy. When others were distracted, they were getting points pretty easily/quickly. After a few times of this happening however, when they would appear, everyone else would turn their attention to them because they were the bigger threat. No intentional farming nor teaming for the purpose of farming here, though just a glance at the scores may make some think otherwise.)
Scores from BASH 15 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 5 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 35 (unrestricted) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 16 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 17 (Archetype) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 6 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 18 (Archetype)
Ironically that was my toon is Match 20. Impulsionaria. That was probably me getting hit with the AoEs. PFF with 7k hp is a no no. Lol but idc I just played it for fun really.
Hello!~
Glad you didn't take that match personally and also glad you were playing the Hero Games for fun.
I have seen quite a few people take it personally when they have a higher number of defeats even when there was no "negative behavior" during the match. Sometimes it's just about people getting used to the map and learning their strengths and weaknesses in interacting with other characters.
The hero games can be a lot of fun when you come into them with an open mind and not just looking for an arbitrary reason to dislike them.
Hope to see you back in the Hero Games again!~ :redface:
Scores from BASH 36 (unrestricted) (Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 19 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 20 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 7 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 8 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 9 (Archetype) (This game was going really well for the survivors because they were working together, but I started to get a lot of lag and then disconnected. By the time I was able to log back in stably, the zombies had overrun the cabin.)
Scores from BASH 21 (Archetype) (One person was definitely identified as a easier defeat than the others and was targeted a lot more. Rather than also targeting the squishy person and literally hunting them (like someone else appeared to be), I targeted anyone I saw targeting them which helped to spread out the distribution of points a bit.
Scores from BASH 22 (Archetype) (My my, how the tables have turned. The squishy hunter, has become the squishy hunted. The person from the previous match who was mainly hunting a squishy person was also squishy themselves. This match they were the squishiest and was up against a build that they had the disadvantage against. Rather than targeting the person at the disadvantage, I helped them. Match ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 10 (Archetype) (We only had one player zombie throughout this match and they were squishy. This player zombie however kept up the pressure through the whole match and did not complain at all. Great Sport. Survivors Held off Zombies!)
Scores from BASH 23 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 24 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 11 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 12 (Archetype)
Was this question for the original poster? :redface:
Jah the one that said said that Impulsionaria was one of my toons.
Umm. still a little unsure if you are asking me the question, and also a little unsure about what you are asking specifically. Anyways, I will go ahead and try to answer.
All of the scores I have posted are all the Hero Games I have played in starting 4-16-2015. They are specifically dated except for the first two days where I identify them as the matches I played in "yesterday". Taking that into consideration and looking at the dates the posts were made, we see that they both are referring to the dates of 4-16-2015 and 4-17-2015. So I have been playing the Hero Games daily or at least making an effort to do so.
It should also be pointed out that these matches do not represent all the matches that occurred on the corresponding day. Just the ones I was in. There have been quite a few matches that have gone on while I was online, but I was just doing something else other than the hero games and also I have no data on Hero Games that have gone on while I was offline.
The main time of day that all of these matches have taken place is 4pm PST/7pm EST - 5pm PST/8pm EST. This is also game server time 4pm-5pm. On 4-24-2015, I started soliciting Archetypes specifically to join the exclusively Archetype Hero Games during this time and called the event "The Hero Games Challenge - AT edition". More information on that can be found Here.
If this time does not work for you and you always see the Hero Games queues at 0, I do have a few suggestions.
1. Join the queue yourself. A lot of people (maybe even yourself) are discouraged to join the queue when they don't see anyone else queued. Take the first step and join the queue without being prompted to do so.
2.Advertise that you need more people for a certain Hero Game. Many of the people discouraged to join the Hero Game queues think of them as "dead" so though they may like a certain Hero Game(for ex. Zombie Apocalypse), they do not queue for it because they don't think anyone else will. It's a vicious cycle of people liking the game, but not queuing for it because they don't see anyone else queued. Advertising can help with this. Generally in the advertisement, it is important to state how many more people are needed for the game, the lvl requirement for the people in the game, and the name of the game itself. If you want people to join the Archetype queue, that needs to be specified, otherwise the unrestricted queue is presumed. Here are a few templates that can be used. Try not to spam, but just convey information, for example if someone joins the queue, update your message with the modified number of people needed.
3. Be patient and don't get discouraged if people don't join right away. Just keep it up and more people might start joining, especially if you have specific times you want to play. You can even post the times here on the forums.Consistency and persistence is needed since their are people who have it hard wired in their brains that the Hero Games are dead, even when there is evidence otherwise.
I would also say be prepared for people pming you asking how/where to queue. Through this experience, I have run into people with lvl 40 characters who not only have negative perceptions about the Hero Games/ the Hero Games queues that may not be true, but also people with lvl 40 characters who generally just don't know what the Hero Games are.
No matter how you choose to move forward, I hope to see you in the Hero Games again!~ :redface:
Scores from BASH 37 (unrestricted) (Small match which ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 25 (Archetype) (Small match which ended in a draw.)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 13 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 26 (Archetype) (Small match which ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 27 (Archetype) (I had to go afk from the middle to the end of this match, so I didn't see a lot of what happened.)
Scores from BASH 28 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 14 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 29 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 30 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 15 (Archetype) (We only had one tanky player zombie throughout this match. This player zombie however kept up the pressure through the whole match and did not complain at all. Great Sport. Survivors Held off Zombies!)
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Let's take a look at the current Hero Games available, and how many people queued it takes for them to pop.
UTC, King of the Hill,and Stronghold games are the Hero games that put people on teams automatically if they didn't queue up with a team. These games require the most people to pop, thus can be more difficult than the other Hero Games to pop. These are also the games that people experience the "kick bug" with. Once these matches pop, some are randomly removed from the match which discourages them from wanting to queue for these because they feel that they won't get a chance to play them anyway.
That leaves B.A.S.H. and Zombie Apocalypse. B.A.S.H. requires less people to pop than Zombie Apocalypse so if people are queuing for them both, the minimum requirement for B.A.S.H. will be reached first, so it will pop first.
B.A.S.H. is usually not my first choice, but it becomes an easy alternative when not enough people queue for other things.
It would help if people actually queued for the Hero Games that they would like to play, then there would be less people needed for that queue to pop.
The Status quo of the Hero Games can change if people put a little effort into changing it. :redface:
Scores from BASH 38 (unrestricted) (Small match which ended in a draw.)
Scores from BASH 31 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 32 (Archetype)
Scores from BASH 33 (Archetype)
Scores from Zombie Apocalypse 16 (Archetype)
I knew all that already. That's why my enthusiasm is low.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.