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stratluverstratluver Posts: 287 Arc User
edited January 2015 in Power Discussion
My goal is to build a 100% dodge tank.

I've read all that I could find. I'm ok with the understanding of powers. The best I can achieve is 83% dodge. And that's with a lot of maintenance.

Heres my basic breakdown-

DEX PSS
quick reflexes (3)=+34 dodge
evasion (2)=+24 avoidance

Dex-228
Con-202

Dodge-60.1%-83%
Avoidance-82.1%-83%

Elusive Monk

Crushing Wave Kick (subtlety of the tides)
Thundering Kicks
Dragon Kick (lashing dragon tail)

Lightning Reflexes-rank 3

I thought I covered all the bases...and more. What am I missing?

Any helps appreciated
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  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 11,775 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Dazee covered most of the basics of it. If ya want more reading on 100% dodge builds, ya can always just do a search for them on these subforums- Monsterdaddy and Selphea have threads on them.

    Else, I'll reiterate the point not to seek out extra Avoidance rating if ur using R3 LR. Avoidance's DR (for both what's labeled as rating and as '%'- the latter is not actually a flat percent cause it shares the DR) is very harsh, and getting avoidance well past ~78-80% isn't really worthwhile for the stat investment it'd take.
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  • jimhsuajimhsua Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    There are a few dodge guides available.

    In general though:
    - CON PSS / deflection
    - R3 Thundering Kicks and Crashing Wave Kick w/ adv
    - Legion's BP of Elusiveness + R7 Gambler's or above
    - As much DEX as you can afford.
  • aiqaaiqa Posts: 2,621 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    DEX primary / LR / thundering kicks / crashing wave kick / parry can work, but not easily.
    I have a build that does uses those to get to 100% dodge chance, but that requires about 750 DEX.
  • stratluverstratluver Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Thanks everyone. I rebuilt and so far so good.

    It's definitely not the easiest thing to maintain the dodge.

  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,028 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Note that you can also just build around less than 100% dodge, and being tough enough that the occasional missed dodge doesn't matter. A Str/Con Warden/Vindicator build using Laser Knight can still maintain upper 80s dodge on top of 15k hp, and will take 7-8k from a failed dodge against Frosticus.
  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    80% dodge is already exceptionally good. On my Dex-based build I already find myself performing pretty well in survivability with R3 LR with 70% dodge with R5 - 6 Dex mods on a mix of 2 Heroic and 1 Legion gear. The only other thing I rely on to boost my dodge is a 42 second recharge timed MD that cycles pretty often during combat (thanks to the Heroic helm).

    Be prepared to invest in a full set of Legion's gear and as mentioned, R9 Dex mods to get your Dex as high as possible to overcome the heavy diminishing returns if you insist on a perfect 100%.
  • jennymachxjennymachx Posts: 3,000 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    gradii wrote: »
    This is true. I have tanked gravitar on one occasion with a Specialist AT with a 68% base dodge chance, and 5.5k HP.

    I had to pay attention and try hard not to die, but I survived, and kept her aggro till the end, even as people gave up thinking it was a lost cause, by the time she went down, we had only 3 people in the rampage.

    Yeah, similarly the LR build I mentioned in my previous post is one of only two "tanky" builds that I have to confidently go toe-to-toe with Gravitar.

    Consistent 100% dodge was never necessary, apart from 15s of MDs in-between 20+s intervals and some personal healing backup like BCR+RR.
  • itzjust2ez4meitzjust2ez4me Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I'm already hitting 100% dodge with that silver champion recognition dodge gear :cool:, hoping the RNG is nice to me so I can get them shiny Justice gears.
  • pantagruel01pantagruel01 Posts: 7,028 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Incidentally, Swinging with Flipping will also get you a few percent dodge rating (I believe it runs into the same DR as dodge rating from gear, it's not a flat add, but the tooltip isn't very specific).
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 11,775 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Incidentally, Swinging with Flipping will also get you a few percent dodge rating (I believe it runs into the same DR as dodge rating from gear, it's not a flat add, but the tooltip isn't very specific).
    Yeah its not flat- Swinging's adv is on the DR too. The tooltip is indeed misleading for it.
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