Before I make my rebuttal, because a few people called me out, I'd like to point out why the wolf heads look rule 34ey. It's not inherent to the furness, it's the look they have on their face. It's really a bit "bite the pillow, this is going to hurt a bit".
Ok, I think the reason I started this thread might be a bit misconstrued, and some people might be taking it too seriously. I was fishing for what people are annoyed by, so I could personally improve my costume skills, as well as maybe having someone stumble across it and take a few clues. I picked up a few good ideas in the noise, and I'm personally responsible for a bunch of the things people mentioned as peeves. But, you know what? That's taste, and taste is subjective. You can't be upset by someone saying "I dislike this specific thing" because for all you know, they run around in game like some random button monstrosity. I think to be offended by a thread like this, an in good faith "let's just discuss costuming" thread without any malicious intent, involves a certain amount of oversensitivity. Hell, we've had people saying from 2 different directions on a few different issues, that it's their preference. An example of this is that I legitimately hate heavy tech. It always wins, and I find it clunky. I prefer light power armor. Does that make it not a valid category for a costume contest? No. I even have one, even if I totally suck at costuming for him because I dislike heavy tech. I also pick heavy tech as tech winners for my ccs, because I can tell in an unbiased way what other people would consider to be a good heavy tech, even if it's not in my tastes. Does this offend anyone? I'm sure no more than I'd be offended by someone who has the opposite mindset. Some cc judges legitimately don't seem to like or appreciate light tech. That's fine, I still wear it there, because *I* enjoy it.
I hesitate to say it, but some people might need to relax a bit and take this into perspective. We're a bunch of faceless goons on a message board, our opinion really shouldn't matter. And nobody means any of it with malice. Except the eyebrow thing. Seriously, guys, color your damn eyebrows. It's really distracting. :biggrin:
Yeah but I think someone mentioend here, there is a difference between saying "I dont like X." and saying "I dont like X and anyone that does it is a noob."
While it might be oversensitivity, but it's easy to see what causes it sometimes. Like in your first post, probably made in pure jest with nothing meant by it,
"What screams "costuming noob" to you?"- See that suggest that it's not the liking of costume or certain costume pieces but the person is a noob at costuming. That kind of sets it up the replies and your own peeve to be "My peeve is this and that and thus the person that do is it a costuming noob."
And probably not many like to be called anything out of their name. Like I'm sure if someone came in here and called you a noob for making such a "Stupid" thread, ya probably wont look at them in a more favorable manner. Compared it they simpled said, I dont like judging people's costume." Both are opinions, both basically say the same thing that they dont like judging others costumes, but one is basically calling one out in a negative manner for choosing to do such, while the other simply states that they personally dont like it. Most people in this thread got it. A few, could go either way. But I dont thik anything was blatant, but a few of those posts could be taken as such dependin on point of view but that doesnt necessarily mean they are over sensative.
Like some dont see what the big deal about things like programs and dont care if they are funded or not because they dotn use them they have no stake in it and thus, people that fret over it looks like they are fretting over something small but in reality it may actually affect them more than on the surface that people can see. And we all have different thresholds. Think some people would flip if their phone stopped working while some would look at ya like ya lost ya blasted mind fretting over a phone. XD
Ok, I think the reason I started this thread might be a bit misconstrued, and some people might be taking it too seriously. I was fishing for what people are annoyed by, so I could personally improve my costume skills, as well as maybe having someone stumble across it and take a few clues. I picked up a few good ideas in the noise, and I'm personally responsible for a bunch of the things people mentioned as peeves. But, you know what? That's taste, and taste is subjective. You can't be upset by someone saying "I dislike this specific thing" because for all you know, they run around in game like some random button monstrosity. I think to be offended by a thread like this, an in good faith "let's just discuss costuming" thread without any malicious intent, involves a certain amount of oversensitivity.
Right, it wasn't your intention to offend anyone. Oh by the way, what was that you said in your thread starter post?
I don't know about you, but implying that someone is a "noob" has a good potential to be offensive. Maybe address that before telling others that they should chill out and trying to pass the blame to others.
Yeah but I think someone mentioend here, there is a difference between saying "I dont like X." and saying "I dont like X and anyone that does it is a noob."
While it might be oversensitivity, but it's easy to see what causes it sometimes. Like in your first post, probably made in pure jest with nothing meant by it,
"What screams "costuming noob" to you?"- See that suggest that it's not the liking of costume or certain costume pieces but the person is a noob at costuming. That kind of sets it up the replies and your own peeve to be "My peeve is this and that and thus the person that do is it a costuming noob."
And probably not many like to be called anything out of their name. Like I'm sure if someone came in here and called you a noob for making such a "Stupid" thread, ya probably wont look at them in a more favorable manner. Compared it they simpled said, I dont like judging people's costume." Both are opinions, both basically say the same thing that they dont like judging others costumes, but one is basically calling one out in a negative manner for choosing to do such, while the other simply states that they personally dont like it. Most people in this thread got it. A few, could go either way. But I dont thik anything was blatant, but a few of those posts could be taken as such dependin on point of view but that doesnt necessarily mean they are over sensative.
Like some dont see what the big deal about things like programs and dont care if they are funded or not because they dotn use them they have no stake in it and thus, people that fret over it looks like they are fretting over something small but in reality it may actually affect them more than on the surface that people can see. And we all have different thresholds. Think some people would flip if their phone stopped working while some would look at ya like ya lost ya blasted mind fretting over a phone. XD
Right, it wasn't your intention to offend anyone. Oh by the way, what was that you said in your thread starter post?
I don't know about you, but implying that someone is a "noob" has a good potential to be offensive. Maybe address that before telling others that they should chill out and trying to pass the blame to others.
This is why good discussions are so rare around here. Everyone has to walk on eggshells trying to pick the right combination of words that won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles.
A lot of my costumes make use of one or more of the peeves that have been listed here so far but you don't find me getting bent out of shape because someone thinks I made bad choices. A lot of this thread could have been worded better but opinions are opinions and these opinions just don't bother me. It would be one thing to be specifically called out by name and told my/your costumes are terrible but that's not taking place here.
This is why good discussions are so rare around here. Everyone has to walk on eggshells trying to pick the right combination of words that won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles.
A lot of my costumes make use of one or more of the peeves that have been listed here so far but you don't find me getting bent out of shape because someone thinks I made bad choices. A lot of this thread could have been worded better but opinions are opinions and these opinions just don't bother me. It would be one thing to be specifically called out by name and told my/your costumes are terrible but that's not taking place here.
yeah.
opinions are opinions, and really if no one was bothered by opinions, then 90% of these threads wouldnt even exist, even this one. Where certain things and people's opinion that is shown what is a good costume peeves them, and seems like there were enough peeve for them to say so.
Pet Peeve-minor annoyance that an individual identifies as particularly annoying to them, to a greater degree than others may find it.
Thus if opinions are opinions and no one should be bothered, then why the existing of a thread titled, Your costuming pet peeves,( refer to the meaning to pet peeve, a minor annoyance that a particular person find particularly annoying to them to a degree greater than others may find it), from the result of other's opinion on what they like to wear and dress in.
Because this peron implies that putting a wolf head on something (and thereby making it a "furry") makes it automatically something pornographic. And since I get this stuff a lot being a furry myself (because most people think furries=porn) I guess I overreacted.
Not to mention "Werewolf 01 Monstrous"/"Werewolf 02 Monstrous"/"Werewolf 03 Monstrous".
Note the difference.
It's the eyes coupled with the slight smile.
I was attempting to say that in a humorous-enough way to not offend people that like those heads, but I don't think that worked. So I'm sorry for that.
opinions are opinions, and really if no one was bothered by opinions, then 90% of these threads wouldnt even exist, even this one. Where certain things and people's opinion that is shown what is a good costume peeves them, and seems like there were enough peeve for them to say so.
Pet Peeve-minor annoyance that an individual identifies as particularly annoying to them, to a greater degree than others may find it.
Thus if opinions are opinions and no one should be bothered, then why the existing of a thread titled, Your costuming pet peeves,( refer to the meaning to pet peeve, a minor annoyance that a particular person find particularly annoying to them to a degree greater than others may find it), from the result of other's opinion on what they like to wear and dress in.
The OP already said earlier why this thread exists.
It's one thing to list what bothers you. It's quite another to be bothered by someone's list of what bothers them.
This is why good discussions are so rare around here. Everyone has to walk on eggshells trying to pick the right combination of words that won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles.
Yes, I'm being oversensitive for seeing a problem with labelling someone whom is perceived to be using bad costume choices as a "costuming noob". I should be so guilty of trying to ruin a "good discussion", the type that involves slamming others for their costume choices.
opinions are opinions, and really if no one was bothered by opinions, then 90% of these threads wouldnt even exist, even this one. Where certain things and people's opinion that is shown what is a good costume peeves them, and seems like there were enough peeve for them to say so.
Pet Peeve-minor annoyance that an individual identifies as particularly annoying to them, to a greater degree than others may find it.
Thus if opinions are opinions and no one should be bothered, then why the existing of a thread titled, Your costuming pet peeves,( refer to the meaning to pet peeve, a minor annoyance that a particular person find particularly annoying to them to a degree greater than others may find it), from the result of other's opinion on what they like to wear and dress in.
The OP already said earlier why this thread exists.
It's one thing to list what bothers you. It's quite another to be bothered by someone's list of what bothers them.
before this goes any further, I ever said I was personally bothered by it. I'm saying I can see HOW some could be bothered by it.
hmmm isnt you kind of doing the same thing. Under the premise you thought i was bothered by it and or thought others might be bothered by it, their peeve, and yet in you wrods said it people have to walk on egg shells so it "won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles."
You are the on on their case about being peeved about a peeve but peeved at the fact that they are peeved?
Explain why is your peeve is justified and the others since they are not your peeve must be because they have delicate sensibilities? Is your peeve more important or better than there's because it's what you choose to be peeved at and since you choose not to be peeved at the same thing as they are peeved it means that they have delicate sensibilities? That logic is the true reason why good discussions are rare. Some thinking their peeve is righteous and just in stating and those of the opposite or those that dont peeve them is being delicate over sensitve and the likes.
But I was addressing more of your point where you said that opinions are noting to be bothered over but if that is truely the case then there would be no one peeved or rather should not be anyone peeved at other's opinions of what constitute good costume.
I think it's ok to be peeved at costumes if it it peeves them but at the same token, it should be expected that some may be peeved at being or feel that they are being targeted and of course some may be peeved at that. Understandable, but it's strange to me to dismiss one peeve as being over sensitive or due to delicate sensiblilities but the other peeve is ok and just happen to not be due to delicate sensibilities which someone pointed out and stated it can be viewed as petty aka, the ones peeved at what others choose to wear as the ones actually the ones with delicate sensibilities.
before this goes any further, I ever said I was personally bothered by it. I'm saying I can see HOW some could be bothered by it.
hmmm isnt you kind of doing the same thing. Under the premise you thought i was bothered by it and or thought others might be bothered by it, their peeve, and yet in you wrods said it people have to walk on egg shells so it "won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles."
You are the on on their case about being peeved about a peeve but peeved at the fact that they are peeved?
Explain why is your peeve is justified and the others since they are not your peeve must be because they have delicate sensibilities? Is your peeve more important or better than there's because it's what you choose to be peeved at and since you choose not to be peeved at the same thing as they are peeved it means that they have delicate sensibilities? That logic is the true reason why good discussions are rare. Some thinking their peeve is righteous and just in stating and those of the opposite or those that dont peeve them is being delicate over sensitve and the likes.
But I was addressing more of your point where you said that opinions are noting to be bothered over but if that is truely the case then there would be no one peeved or rather should not be anyone peeved at other's opinions of what constitute good costume.
I think it's ok to be peeved at costumes if it it peeves them but at the same token, it should be expected that some may be peeved at being or feel that they are being targeted and of course some may be peeved at that. Understandable, but it's strange to me to dismiss one peeve but the other peeve is ok.
If opinions of costumes are irrelevant, costume contests shouldn't be a thing.
But then again, I've seen at least two tantrums after some costume contests, so... yeah.
We shouldn't be slamming other people deliberately, but I don't think there's a problem with us saying we don't like a particular style or combination.
Besides, if you lash out and get butthurt because people don't like something you like... well, that's not how well-adjusted adults behave.
I hate Twilight with a passion. I think Harry Potter is lame. I think Star Trek is overrated. I dislike Navy Blue. I think True Blood is one of the worst shows to grace late night television. I think Superman is a worthless character on his own. People who like this? Well, I don't know. It has nothing to do with the people who like it or I'd say flat-out it was the people.
If saying that gets people in a fury, then perhaps those people need to evaluate themselves. When you create something and display it you have to be adult enough to know that not all criticism will be to make you feel good and tell you how awesome it is. That's not how things work. If you like your thing? Stick with it.
But don't think everyone owes you positive reinforcement because they are entitled to their preference even if it is contrary to yours.
That being said, there's no reason to run people down and tell them they look like an idiot.
Yes, I'm being oversensitive for seeing a problem with labelling someone whom is perceived to be using bad costume choices as a "costuming noob". I should be so guilty of trying to ruin a "good discussion", the type that involves slamming others for their costume choices.
You really are being overly sensitive. This thread isn't about labeling people. Those that decided it was and went that route in their post(s) missed the point and started the chain reaction that caused this thread to go to pot.
before this goes any further, I ever said I was personally bothered by it. I'm saying I can see HOW some could be bothered by it.
hmmm isnt you kind of doing the same thing. Under the premise you thought i was bothered by it and or thought others might be bothered by it, their peeve, and yet in you wrods said it people have to walk on egg shells so it "won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles."
You are the on on their case about being peeved about a peeve but peeved at the fact that they are peeved?
Explain why is your peeve is justified and the others since they are not your peeve must be because they have delicate sensibilities? Is your peeve more important or better than there's because it's what you choose to be peeved at and since you choose not to be peeved at the same thing as they are peeved it means that they have delicate sensibilities? That logic is the true reason why good discussions are rare. Some thinking their peeve is righteous and just in stating and those of the opposite or those that dont peeve them is being delicate over sensitve and the likes.
But I was addressing more of your point where you said that opinions are noting to be bothered over but if that is truely the case then there would be no one peeved or rather should not be anyone peeved at other's opinions of what constitute good costume.
Absolutely not, I'm trying to inject some perspective into a malignant debate. Apparently I might be wasting my time.
What? I listed what peeves me and it had absolutely NOTHING to do with other people.
It might be the time of day coming into play here but I'm having a hard time making out the rest of the post.
You really are being overly sensitive. This thread isn't about labeling people. Those that decided it was and went that route in their post(s) missed the point and started the chain reaction that caused this thread to go to pot.
Absolutely not, I'm trying to inject some perspective into a malignant debate. Apparently I might be wasting my time.
What? I listed what peeves me and it had absolutely NOTHING to do with other people.
I'm not talking about your actual list of peeves. I'm talking about your statement and last few posts that those that are "peeved at the costume peeves" have "delicate sensiblities", and that to me sounds like it very much have something to do with other people.
And again even in this reply you again say the other person is being overly sensative. Which lead me to my question of why are they labeled over sensative but being peeved at costumes that others wear is not considered over sensative? Shouldnt if anything, what someone wear shouldnt even be an issue to even be peeved about? How is it that if one express they are offended how ever trivial it may seem to outsiders just as they may think that being peeved at other's costumes and starting a thread about it is trivial, is being over sensative but worrying about what other's wear inside a video game is not over sensative? Especially when they do expressed they are peeved or bothered or what ever term about it, they are labeled, by you, as being over sensative or as in the previous post, having delicate sensibilities. When you say the reason they are feel is because they have delicate sensibilities that do make it kind of personal and dismissive of them being peeved at something while turning around and saying that the cause of them being upset, which is another person's peeve is just and right.
OK, we have Costumes and Concepts thread. Maybe we can get something stickied there and a couple of us can throw something in our sig.
Basically, since one of the main peeves seems to be proportions, we ought to make 'mannequins' for people to grab up and use with better proportions than the default. Maybe even then expand on this a little with a few extra ideas.
OK, we have Costumes and Concepts thread. Maybe we can get something stickied there and a couple of us can throw something in our sig.
Basically, since one of the main peeves seems to be proportions, we ought to make 'mannequins' for people to grab up and use with better proportions than the default. Maybe even then expand on this a little with a few extra ideas.
You really are being overly sensitive. This thread isn't about labeling people. Those that decided it was and went that route in their post(s) missed the point and started the chain reaction that caused this thread to go to pot.
No? Let's go back to the starting post:
Anyone else? What screams "costuming noob" to you?
At the very beginning of the thread, that question was being asked to invite people to come forth with their feedback to support that label, since I didn't see any objections toward using such a negative label.
If you have any bright ideas on what sort of positive or non-insulting way I should interpret a term such as "costuming noob", go ahead and tell me, because if that was the intention of the OP, I ain't seeing it.
I hate Twilight with a passion. I think Harry Potter is lame. I think Star Trek is overrated. I dislike Navy Blue. I think True Blood is one of the worst shows to grace late night television. I think Superman is a worthless character on his own.
You dislike navy blue????HERETIC!! NONBELIEVER!!!!
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Concerning the costume creator, it's the fact that WE CAN'T ****ING WEAR WRISTWATCHES WITH FULL SHIRTS OR JACKETS. That's right, the two types of clothing the watch would fit MOST with. Also, you can't have a long glove on one hand and a short glove/bracer on the other. That would be incredible if we could really do that.
However, my main peeve is, as some other people mentioned, ****ing height sliders turned up to max. Not only does it piss me off because it looks pretty stupid to begin with depending on their character design, but it pisses me off when I'm RPing in Caprice because I see these guys all the time, and they're almost always some guy with the mass slider also turned up to max, using broken english with a name like "the dark killer" or something else like that.
"Hey man, you're a regular-**** human, why are you 17 feet tall?"
At the very beginning of the thread, that question was being asked to invite people to come forth with their feedback to support that label, since I didn't see any objections toward using such a negative label.
If you have any bright ideas on what sort of positive or non-insulting way I should interpret a term such as "costuming noob", go ahead and tell me, because if that was the intention of the OP, I ain't seeing it.
If this thread offends you, go away. I've already clarified my position, but if all you have to continue to attack me for trying to start a constructive and (in my case, as well) informative discussion, is a single sentence? [removed]. It's petty and I'm tired of it. You've been on me for like half of this thread over one offhand sentence that I already explained wasn't meant to be mean. Who seems more malicious, here?
Way to derail a thread that was giving me really good ideas on how to step up my costuming game, because you don't like a single word. Kudos. I'll be sure to get you back whenever you start a thread.
If this thread offends you, go away. I've already clarified my position, but if all you have to continue to attack me for trying to start a constructive and (in my case, as well) informative discussion, is a single sentence? [removed]. It's petty and I'm tired of it. You've been on me for like half of this thread over one offhand sentence that I already explained wasn't meant to be mean. Who seems more malicious, here?
Oh, so I'm malicious now? Let's look at what you've said later on:
I'll be sure to get you back whenever you start a thread.
And you have the audacity to call me malicious?
If I'm being malicious for seeing someone make using deragotary labels to describe others for having an inferior taste for costuming, then call me malicious all day long. I won't mind.
You want to take "revenge" on me in that manner? Go right ahead, if you think it shows how much better a person you are.
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Yeah but I think someone mentioend here, there is a difference between saying "I dont like X." and saying "I dont like X and anyone that does it is a noob."
While it might be oversensitivity, but it's easy to see what causes it sometimes. Like in your first post, probably made in pure jest with nothing meant by it,
"What screams "costuming noob" to you?"- See that suggest that it's not the liking of costume or certain costume pieces but the person is a noob at costuming. That kind of sets it up the replies and your own peeve to be "My peeve is this and that and thus the person that do is it a costuming noob."
And probably not many like to be called anything out of their name. Like I'm sure if someone came in here and called you a noob for making such a "Stupid" thread, ya probably wont look at them in a more favorable manner. Compared it they simpled said, I dont like judging people's costume." Both are opinions, both basically say the same thing that they dont like judging others costumes, but one is basically calling one out in a negative manner for choosing to do such, while the other simply states that they personally dont like it. Most people in this thread got it. A few, could go either way. But I dont thik anything was blatant, but a few of those posts could be taken as such dependin on point of view but that doesnt necessarily mean they are over sensative.
Like some dont see what the big deal about things like programs and dont care if they are funded or not because they dotn use them they have no stake in it and thus, people that fret over it looks like they are fretting over something small but in reality it may actually affect them more than on the surface that people can see. And we all have different thresholds. Think some people would flip if their phone stopped working while some would look at ya like ya lost ya blasted mind fretting over a phone. XD
Right, it wasn't your intention to offend anyone. Oh by the way, what was that you said in your thread starter post?
I don't know about you, but implying that someone is a "noob" has a good potential to be offensive. Maybe address that before telling others that they should chill out and trying to pass the blame to others.
This is why good discussions are so rare around here. Everyone has to walk on eggshells trying to pick the right combination of words that won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles.
A lot of my costumes make use of one or more of the peeves that have been listed here so far but you don't find me getting bent out of shape because someone thinks I made bad choices. A lot of this thread could have been worded better but opinions are opinions and these opinions just don't bother me. It would be one thing to be specifically called out by name and told my/your costumes are terrible but that's not taking place here.
yeah.
opinions are opinions, and really if no one was bothered by opinions, then 90% of these threads wouldnt even exist, even this one. Where certain things and people's opinion that is shown what is a good costume peeves them, and seems like there were enough peeve for them to say so.
Pet Peeve-minor annoyance that an individual identifies as particularly annoying to them, to a greater degree than others may find it.
Thus if opinions are opinions and no one should be bothered, then why the existing of a thread titled, Your costuming pet peeves,( refer to the meaning to pet peeve, a minor annoyance that a particular person find particularly annoying to them to a degree greater than others may find it), from the result of other's opinion on what they like to wear and dress in.
Not all wolf heads. Nor all animal heads.
Compare "Wolf 2" to "Werewolf"
Not to mention "Werewolf 01 Monstrous"/"Werewolf 02 Monstrous"/"Werewolf 03 Monstrous".
Note the difference.
It's the eyes coupled with the slight smile.
I was attempting to say that in a humorous-enough way to not offend people that like those heads, but I don't think that worked. So I'm sorry for that.
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The OP already said earlier why this thread exists.
It's one thing to list what bothers you. It's quite another to be bothered by someone's list of what bothers them.
Yes, I'm being oversensitive for seeing a problem with labelling someone whom is perceived to be using bad costume choices as a "costuming noob". I should be so guilty of trying to ruin a "good discussion", the type that involves slamming others for their costume choices.
Too many "opinions" in your post. ;-P
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before this goes any further, I ever said I was personally bothered by it. I'm saying I can see HOW some could be bothered by it.
hmmm isnt you kind of doing the same thing. Under the premise you thought i was bothered by it and or thought others might be bothered by it, their peeve, and yet in you wrods said it people have to walk on egg shells so it "won't offend the delicate sensibilities of the people who don't know how to pick their battles."
You are the on on their case about being peeved about a peeve but peeved at the fact that they are peeved?
Explain why is your peeve is justified and the others since they are not your peeve must be because they have delicate sensibilities? Is your peeve more important or better than there's because it's what you choose to be peeved at and since you choose not to be peeved at the same thing as they are peeved it means that they have delicate sensibilities? That logic is the true reason why good discussions are rare. Some thinking their peeve is righteous and just in stating and those of the opposite or those that dont peeve them is being delicate over sensitve and the likes.
But I was addressing more of your point where you said that opinions are noting to be bothered over but if that is truely the case then there would be no one peeved or rather should not be anyone peeved at other's opinions of what constitute good costume.
I think it's ok to be peeved at costumes if it it peeves them but at the same token, it should be expected that some may be peeved at being or feel that they are being targeted and of course some may be peeved at that. Understandable, but it's strange to me to dismiss one peeve as being over sensitive or due to delicate sensiblilities but the other peeve is ok and just happen to not be due to delicate sensibilities which someone pointed out and stated it can be viewed as petty aka, the ones peeved at what others choose to wear as the ones actually the ones with delicate sensibilities.
O.o....seems someone is a bit peeved:eek:
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But then again, I've seen at least two tantrums after some costume contests, so... yeah.
We shouldn't be slamming other people deliberately, but I don't think there's a problem with us saying we don't like a particular style or combination.
Besides, if you lash out and get butthurt because people don't like something you like... well, that's not how well-adjusted adults behave.
I hate Twilight with a passion. I think Harry Potter is lame. I think Star Trek is overrated. I dislike Navy Blue. I think True Blood is one of the worst shows to grace late night television. I think Superman is a worthless character on his own. People who like this? Well, I don't know. It has nothing to do with the people who like it or I'd say flat-out it was the people.
If saying that gets people in a fury, then perhaps those people need to evaluate themselves. When you create something and display it you have to be adult enough to know that not all criticism will be to make you feel good and tell you how awesome it is. That's not how things work. If you like your thing? Stick with it.
But don't think everyone owes you positive reinforcement because they are entitled to their preference even if it is contrary to yours.
That being said, there's no reason to run people down and tell them they look like an idiot.
You really are being overly sensitive. This thread isn't about labeling people. Those that decided it was and went that route in their post(s) missed the point and started the chain reaction that caused this thread to go to pot.
Absolutely not, I'm trying to inject some perspective into a malignant debate. Apparently I might be wasting my time.
What? I listed what peeves me and it had absolutely NOTHING to do with other people.
It might be the time of day coming into play here but I'm having a hard time making out the rest of the post.
basically.
I'm not talking about your actual list of peeves. I'm talking about your statement and last few posts that those that are "peeved at the costume peeves" have "delicate sensiblities", and that to me sounds like it very much have something to do with other people.
And again even in this reply you again say the other person is being overly sensative. Which lead me to my question of why are they labeled over sensative but being peeved at costumes that others wear is not considered over sensative? Shouldnt if anything, what someone wear shouldnt even be an issue to even be peeved about? How is it that if one express they are offended how ever trivial it may seem to outsiders just as they may think that being peeved at other's costumes and starting a thread about it is trivial, is being over sensative but worrying about what other's wear inside a video game is not over sensative? Especially when they do expressed they are peeved or bothered or what ever term about it, they are labeled, by you, as being over sensative or as in the previous post, having delicate sensibilities. When you say the reason they are feel is because they have delicate sensibilities that do make it kind of personal and dismissive of them being peeved at something while turning around and saying that the cause of them being upset, which is another person's peeve is just and right.
OK, we have Costumes and Concepts thread. Maybe we can get something stickied there and a couple of us can throw something in our sig.
Basically, since one of the main peeves seems to be proportions, we ought to make 'mannequins' for people to grab up and use with better proportions than the default. Maybe even then expand on this a little with a few extra ideas.
Seriously, CO- why your proportions so bad?
Sounds like a good idea.
No? Let's go back to the starting post:
At the very beginning of the thread, that question was being asked to invite people to come forth with their feedback to support that label, since I didn't see any objections toward using such a negative label.
If you have any bright ideas on what sort of positive or non-insulting way I should interpret a term such as "costuming noob", go ahead and tell me, because if that was the intention of the OP, I ain't seeing it.
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I think that most characters are worthless on their own, even if he is particularly so. John from "Garfield", however, is better on his own.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
I'm not sure how many people here are old enough to know who John Garfield is.
Part of the problem since December, 2012.
Gentleman's Agreement, good movie. Although he bought the farm before I was even thought of being brought into this world.
(and, btw, I am *that* old)
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
Actor, usually known to play rebellious, working class characters that usually have morbid and or depressing background.
Also considered the predessecor of the type of Method acting employed by the likes of Marlon Brando.
Acting career considered to come to an end during the Communism withc hunt. He been called forward for alledged communist ties and also refused to name others in front of the U.S. Congressional House Committee on Un-American Activities . Died not long after at the age of 39. Some say the stress during that incident help bring upon his premature heart attack.
And as all my pet peeves it's more because of costume limitations, than choices made by other players.
Lack of this stance for female toons:
http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=186311
All other stances are more or less awkward, this one is fine and already exists. But is unavailable outside of the tailor UI.
Whoever you are, be that person one hundred percent. Don't compromise on your identity.
Tis the mark of the froob.
Nepht and Dr Deflecto on primus
They all thought I was out of the game....But I'm holding all the lockboxes now..
I'll......FOAM FINGER YOUR BACK!
However, my main peeve is, as some other people mentioned, ****ing height sliders turned up to max. Not only does it piss me off because it looks pretty stupid to begin with depending on their character design, but it pisses me off when I'm RPing in Caprice because I see these guys all the time, and they're almost always some guy with the mass slider also turned up to max, using broken english with a name like "the dark killer" or something else like that.
"Hey man, you're a regular-**** human, why are you 17 feet tall?"
"i wuz just born super tall bro"
If this thread offends you, go away. I've already clarified my position, but if all you have to continue to attack me for trying to start a constructive and (in my case, as well) informative discussion, is a single sentence? [removed]. It's petty and I'm tired of it. You've been on me for like half of this thread over one offhand sentence that I already explained wasn't meant to be mean. Who seems more malicious, here?
Way to derail a thread that was giving me really good ideas on how to step up my costuming game, because you don't like a single word. Kudos. I'll be sure to get you back whenever you start a thread.
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RIP Caine
Oh, so I'm malicious now? Let's look at what you've said later on:
And you have the audacity to call me malicious?
If I'm being malicious for seeing someone make using deragotary labels to describe others for having an inferior taste for costuming, then call me malicious all day long. I won't mind.
You want to take "revenge" on me in that manner? Go right ahead, if you think it shows how much better a person you are.
If in the future anyone wants to start a similar thread, let's make a note of keeping things positive and without harsh remarks.