My main point is: they (devs) had to conceive it, discuss it, insert it. Still not saying it was intentionally put in for pvp, but what could they have been thinking that it was helpful for?
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I would like to know how much beneficial the NO MERCY is for Single Blade TANKS against Cosmics
So far it looks promising
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My main point is: they (devs) had to conceive it, discuss it, insert it. Still not saying it was intentionally put in for pvp, but what could they have been thinking that it was helpful for?
Um... wasn't the undodgebalness of it a bug that someone discovered? Logically that means they couldn't fix it and simply adjusted the power around it, i.e. splitting the damage apart so it wasn't just a "LR Instakiller" thing. Hence they didn't "add it because they had some usefullness for it in mind", it was a part of it and they modified it to try to mitigate some issues with that.
So the answer to your question is: You're asking the wrong question, and so your question has no answer. Other than "They had no specific usefulness in mind as far as pvp, however they did identify a possible issue for PvP and altered the power to make it less useful for a specific instance of pvp activity where it would be demonstrably overpowered".
On the other hand, in high end PvE content squishy burst damage toons rely on their burst actually hitting, and your biggest spike randomly being dodged can lead to a bad situation, so in a way this is useful in PvE by ensuring that won't happen.
Bug: it seems like Scything Blade's Swallowtail debuff + Bleed on high-ranking targets is storing extra bleed ticks and releasing them at the end of its Bleed's duration.
Its a bit weird, but I'm seeing a clump of extra bleed ticks go off if I naturally let the debuffs expire.
And, of course, you still have to reply in a way that demeans me even asking or suggesting what I did. Aren't you ever going to stop doing that?
Eh? That's all in your head bud. Depending on the voice you read something in, anything can seem rude.
No. Plenty of others point this out to you but you disregard it as "it's them, not me." When it really is you. Perhaps you should look over what you intend to post a few times. Read it as if it were directed at you.
It's at this point that I'd stop, usually, but I feel you will still reply with another "you, not me" post.
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And, of course, you still have to reply in a way that demeans me even asking or suggesting what I did. Aren't you ever going to stop doing that?
Eh? That's all in your head bud. Depending on the voice you read something in, anything can seem rude.
Sorry Spinny, but a lot of your writing does come off as a bit condescending, and I say that as someone with no opinion whatsoever on your current discussion with warcanch. And until a dev comes out and actually explains what is going on, neither of your theories on the subject are going to be proven correct.
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Actually.. i fight the best of the best (the ones others would rather not duel) and i am quite humble, always nice and polite, i never abuse bugs, etc. Why would i fight newbies, i don't get any satisfaction out of it. I seem to have struck a pve lord's nerve, eh ^^ so you're now making bs stories up in order to ridicule me. Sorry pal, the attempt failed.
Have a nice day, though.
p.s. I'm betting my left testie on, me being twice your age.
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And until a dev comes out and actually explains what is going on, neither of your theories on the subject are going to be proven correct.
I'm fine with that. I just remember the undodgabalness being reported as a bug, then in the next patch it was changed to be as it is now. Seems like more than a coincidence to me.
Actually.. i fight the best of the best (the ones others would rather not duel) and i am quite humble, always nice and polite, i never abuse bugs, etc. Why would i fight newbies, i don't get any satisfaction out of it. I seem to have struck a pve lord's nerve, eh ^^ so you're now making bs stories up in order to ridicule me. Sorry pal, the attempt failed.
Have a nice day, though.
p.s. I'm betting my left testie on, me being twice your age.
Humble yet here you are bragging.
but yeah I can't take seriously someone who says an attack that bypasses dodge is only useful versus LR.
You clearly don't know how pvp works.
Are you the person who told me you lose damage if you mod for dodge?
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No one is saying otherwise. The point is that it's very unlikely to be intentional given COs history with pvp.
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"Okay, you're DEAD, what do you do NEXT?"
So far it looks promising
Um... wasn't the undodgebalness of it a bug that someone discovered? Logically that means they couldn't fix it and simply adjusted the power around it, i.e. splitting the damage apart so it wasn't just a "LR Instakiller" thing. Hence they didn't "add it because they had some usefullness for it in mind", it was a part of it and they modified it to try to mitigate some issues with that.
So the answer to your question is: You're asking the wrong question, and so your question has no answer. Other than "They had no specific usefulness in mind as far as pvp, however they did identify a possible issue for PvP and altered the power to make it less useful for a specific instance of pvp activity where it would be demonstrably overpowered".
On the other hand, in high end PvE content squishy burst damage toons rely on their burst actually hitting, and your biggest spike randomly being dodged can lead to a bad situation, so in a way this is useful in PvE by ensuring that won't happen.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
And, of course, you still have to reply in a way that demeans me even asking or suggesting what I did. Aren't you ever going to stop doing that?
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"Okay, you're DEAD, what do you do NEXT?"
Eh? That's all in your head bud. Depending on the voice you read something in, anything can seem rude.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Its a bit weird, but I'm seeing a clump of extra bleed ticks go off if I naturally let the debuffs expire.
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No. Plenty of others point this out to you but you disregard it as "it's them, not me." When it really is you. Perhaps you should look over what you intend to post a few times. Read it as if it were directed at you.
It's at this point that I'd stop, usually, but I feel you will still reply with another "you, not me" post.
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"Okay, you're DEAD, what do you do NEXT?"
I did that and I wouldn't be offended. It's you bud, stop starting drama over nothing please.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Sorry Spinny, but a lot of your writing does come off as a bit condescending, and I say that as someone with no opinion whatsoever on your current discussion with warcanch. And until a dev comes out and actually explains what is going on, neither of your theories on the subject are going to be proven correct.
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Actually.. i fight the best of the best (the ones others would rather not duel) and i am quite humble, always nice and polite, i never abuse bugs, etc. Why would i fight newbies, i don't get any satisfaction out of it. I seem to have struck a pve lord's nerve, eh ^^ so you're now making bs stories up in order to ridicule me. Sorry pal, the attempt failed.
Have a nice day, though.
p.s. I'm betting my left testie on, me being twice your age.
Wait, I thought you were being condescending on purpose because it's funny. Like, you were doing it ironically or sarcastically.
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I'm fine with that. I just remember the undodgabalness being reported as a bug, then in the next patch it was changed to be as it is now. Seems like more than a coincidence to me.
My super cool CC build and how to use it.
Humble yet here you are bragging.
but yeah I can't take seriously someone who says an attack that bypasses dodge is only useful versus LR.
You clearly don't know how pvp works.
Are you the person who told me you lose damage if you mod for dodge?