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brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
I'm trying to assemble a decent endgame content DPS build, with a ninja theme. So far, I have this:

Gaijin - Freeform
v2.3.2-28

Super Stats
Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Specialist (Dex: 10, Con: 10, Int: 8, Rec: 10)
Level 6: Agile (Dex: 8)
Level 9: Enduring (Con: 8)
Level 12: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Survival Training (Dex: 3, Con: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)

Powers
Level 1: Rain of Steel
Level 1: Way of the Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Steadfast
Level 8: Fluidity (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Form of the Tempest
Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Smoke Bomb Lunge (Nailed to the Ground)
Level 20: Dragon's Wrath (Rank 2, Tiger\'s Courage)
Level 23: Throwing Blades (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 26: Intensity (Rank 2)
Level 29: Lock N Load (Rank 2)
Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 35: Masterful Dodge
Level 38: Vorpal Blade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Adv. Points: 36/36

Travel Powers
Level 6: Acrobatics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 35: Ninja Vanish (Rank 2, Rank 3)

Specializations
Dexterity: Combat Training (3/3)
Dexterity: Brush It Off (2/2)
Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
Warden: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Warden: Ruthless (2/2)
Warden: Elusive (2/2)
Warden: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)

My main doubt is:
1) Night Warrior vs. Way of the Warrior: I feel NW would fit more my ninja theme, but WotW looks better overall (DPS + survivability).

If there's something else I can improve, like choosing other SS/passive/powers, please give me a feedback.

Thanks in advance :)

Comments

  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User
    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.2-28

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Strength (Primary)
    Level 10: Dexterity (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: One of Mind and Body (Str: 12, Dex: 12)
    Level 6: Agile (Dex: 8)
    Level 9: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 12: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 15: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 18: Covert Ops Training (Str: 3, Dex: 3, Con: 3, Int: 3)
    Level 21: Survival Training (Dex: 3, Con: 3, Pre: 3, Rec: 2, End: 2)

    Powers
    Level 1: Rain of Steel
    Level 1: Night Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Steadfast
    Level 8: Parry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Form of the Tempest
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Smoke Bomb Lunge
    Level 20: Dragon's Wrath (Rank 2, Tiger\'s Courage)
    Level 23: Blade Tempest (Crashing Crescendo)
    Level 26: Imbue (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 29: Eye of the Storm (Blade Beyond the Veil, Cut To Shreds)
    Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Masterful Dodge
    Level 38: Vorpal Blade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 36/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Acrobatics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Ninja Vanish (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Specializations
    Strength: Physical Peak (3/3)
    Strength: Aggression (2/2)
    Strength: Brutality (2/2)
    Strength: Overpower (3/3)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
    Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
    Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
    Brawler: Setup (2/2)
    Brawler: Flanking (3/3)
    Mastery: Strength Mastery (1/1)
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User
    Gear for mainly Dex and use Str in secondaries (if needed)
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 11,929 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    Yea, getting Blade Tempest for Shredded is nice, and I'd second dithcing Fluidity for a normal ranked block enhancer. Sub-100% dodge is too RNG for a dps to depend on. Str PSS w/ Brutality and a Dex focus is also good.
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  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    Thanks shadowolf505 and flowcyto.

    Constitution is not needed for survivability? Any tips on how to play this build on solo content/alerts?
  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    Following shadowolf505 build, with Mercenary Gear and rank 5 DEX mods for all slots:


    With Shredded debuff, my Dragon Wrath critted between 8.5k - 10.2k, with a spike of 12k.

    That's expected given my current gear, or am I still underperforming?

    Also: 6.2k HP is enough for eventual solo content/alerts?
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 11,929 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    "Constitution is not needed for survivability? Any tips on how to play this build on solo content/alerts? "
    If you want to min-max dps, then usually you forgo Con SS and Con gearing for more in dps-related stats (and some energy stats to stay afloat on energy). Ofc, this is assuming you can still survive okay and rely on Growth mods for maxHP (ranked non-Fluidity block helps too). Eye of the Storm's dmg shield and ur Active Defenses + self-heals can also hep you stay alive.

    For Merc gear and r5s (pretty low bar), ur doing okay. Crit severity is a bit lower than I'd expect for Brutality + severity specs; maybe due to the lack of a severity rating bonus on gear? That much Dex should put you pretty high into crit%'s DR, such that trading crit rating for one severity rating bonus could work.
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  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User

    Following shadowolf505 build, with Mercenary Gear and rank 5 DEX mods for all slots:


    With Shredded debuff, my Dragon Wrath critted between 8.5k - 10.2k, with a spike of 12k.

    That's expected given my current gear, or am I still underperforming?

    Also: 6.2k HP is enough for eventual solo content/alerts?

    That's good imo. You could use Growth Amulets in the Prime Defense and add more Dex in secondaries if you want more crit chance with Gamblers in Prime Offense.
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • blockwaveblockwave Posts: 329 Arc User
    (Unnamed Build) - Freeform
    v2.3.2-28

    Super Stats
    Level 6: Dexterity (Primary)
    Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
    Level 15: Recovery (Secondary)

    Talents
    Level 1: One of Mind and Body (Str: 12, Dex: 12)
    Level 6: Agile (Dex: 8)
    Level 9: Martial Focus (Str: 5, Dex: 5)
    Level 12: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
    Level 15: Acrobat (Dex: 5, Con: 5)
    Level 18: Accurate (Dex: 5, End: 5)
    Level 21: Impresario (Dex: 5, Rec: 5)

    Powers
    Level 1: Rain of Steel
    Level 1: Night Warrior (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 6: Steadfast
    Level 8: Parry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 11: Form of the Tempest
    Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 17: Smoke Bomb Lunge
    Level 20: Dragon's Wrath (Rank 2, Tiger\'s Courage)
    Level 23: Blade Tempest (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 26: Imbue
    Level 29: Eye of the Storm (Blade Beyond the Veil, Cut To Shreds)
    Level 32: Resurgence (Rank 2)
    Level 35: Masterful Dodge
    Level 38: Vorpal Blade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Adv. Points: 34/36

    Travel Powers
    Level 6: Acrobatics (Rank 2, Rank 3)
    Level 35: Ninja Vanish (Rank 2, Rank 3)

    Specializations
    Dexterity: Combat Training (2/3)
    Dexterity: Gear Utilization (3/3)
    Dexterity: Deadly Aim (3/3)
    Dexterity: Expose Weakness (2/2)
    Vindicator: Aggressive Stance (2/2)
    Vindicator: Merciless (3/3)
    Vindicator: Focused Strikes (3/3)
    Vindicator: Mass Destruction (2/3)
    Brawler: The Glory of Battle (1/3)
    Brawler: Penetrating Strikes (2/2)
    Brawler: Ruthless (2/2)
    Brawler: Setup (2/2)
    Brawler: Flanking (3/3)
    Mastery: Dexterity Mastery (1/1)


    Pretty good build of Shadow, I would probably go for Dex Con Rec with blade tempest to r3 instead of crashing creshendo, Resurgence would not be needed and could be replaced by a threat wipe, or with Reaper's Embrace to get an extra burst of dmg.

  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    blockwave said:


    Pretty good build of Shadow, I would probably go for Dex Con Rec with blade tempest to r3 instead of crashing creshendo, Resurgence would not be needed and could be replaced by a threat wipe, or with Reaper's Embrace to get an extra burst of dmg.

    I'll test your build with CON to see how it performs.

    With shadow's build, just cleared all training room enemies types (Hard Opponents, Team Size: 5), 0 deaths. I'm not sure if that's a decent parameter, so just let me know if there's a better test to do.

    Eye of the Storm is a great power, it was the main tool that kept me alive while aggroing those waves when my active defenses were off. :)
  • blockwaveblockwave Posts: 329 Arc User
    Dex Con Rec, gear for full dex, should be fine.

  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User

    blockwave said:


    Pretty good build of Shadow, I would probably go for Dex Con Rec with blade tempest to r3 instead of crashing creshendo, Resurgence would not be needed and could be replaced by a threat wipe, or with Reaper's Embrace to get an extra burst of dmg.

    I'll test your build with CON to see how it performs.

    With shadow's build, just cleared all training room enemies types (Hard Opponents, Team Size: 5), 0 deaths. I'm not sure if that's a decent parameter, so just let me know if there's a better test to do.

    Eye of the Storm is a great power, it was the main tool that kept me alive while aggroing those waves when my active defenses were off. :)
    Heheh, glad you liked it. The Resurgence is good for that moment when you're about to die, no need to use threat wipe since Stealth is basically one from Night Warrior, the adv on Blade Tempest is good for more crit chance.
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User
    And the Eye of Storm advs give the damage shield so yeah. :)
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    Running STR/DEX/CON, got 0 energy problems, the rush bonus replenish all the energy I need for rotations. Now I have around 9.5k HP, and DPS still the same :)

  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User
    I mean Rec is good though but Con is nice for new builds.
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • deadman20deadman20 Posts: 1,528 Arc User
    If you feel like taking a ranged option, here's this.​​
    Steam Guide to Modifications and Equipment (Champions Online) - DZPlayer's Builds (Last updated: 3/26/2018)
    And I will always be @DZPlayer122.

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  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    deadman20 said:

    If you feel like taking a ranged option, here's this.​​

    Thanks, I'll take a look into this too.
  • kamokamikamokami Posts: 1,633 Arc User

    no need to use threat wipe since Stealth is basically one from Night Warrior, the adv on Blade Tempest is good for more crit chance.

    Stealth is not a threat wipe in any way. You retain all of your threat. A threat wipe resets your threat back to 0. And if someone is going for max dps they should take a threat wipe if they'd like to not worry about how good the Tank and that Tank's healers are.

    The reason to not take a threat wipe now is because they're using mercs and r5s. But once they get better gear and decide to go for max dps on a NW build they'll absolutely want one.

    And the Eye of Storm advs give the damage shield so yeah. :)

    No they don't. The shield is part of the base power.
  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 11,929 Arc User
    Technically you limit EotS's dmg shield by taking the special advs, since you forgo normal ranks of EoTS that also boost the shield, but the Blade Veil one can be nice for dps if being attacked constantly.
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  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User
    kamokami said:

    no need to use threat wipe since Stealth is basically one from Night Warrior, the adv on Blade Tempest is good for more crit chance.

    Stealth is not a threat wipe in any way. You retain all of your threat. A threat wipe resets your threat back to 0. And if someone is going for max dps they should take a threat wipe if they'd like to not worry about how good the Tank and that Tank's healers are.

    The reason to not take a threat wipe now is because they're using mercs and r5s. But once they get better gear and decide to go for max dps on a NW build they'll absolutely want one.

    And the Eye of Storm advs give the damage shield so yeah. :)

    No they don't. The shield is part of the base power.
    Well I stand corrected. I didn't know. :(
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    Thanks everybody for the help, I'm running shadow's build, but going STR/DEX/CON instead of STR/DEX/REC. :)
  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User

    Thanks everybody for the help, I'm running shadow's build, but going STR/DEX/CON instead of STR/DEX/REC. :)

    Cool! Glad you liked it! :D
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
  • brfabeirasbrfabeiras Posts: 182 Arc User
    Just finished my first Kiga run, top 5 DPS! Dunno if that's low/average, but I really got surprised lol

  • flowcytoflowcyto Posts: 11,929 Arc User
    Using DW should be pulling good numbers like that (as long as ur not dying ofc), but its still pretty impressive for ur gear level.
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  • shadowolf505shadowolf505 Posts: 663 Arc User

    Just finished my first Kiga run, top 5 DPS! Dunno if that's low/average, but I really got surprised lol

    Nice! :D
    Link to my build thread on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1346940077
    Broken parser test here: https://gyazo.com/25ccc5aaa2f98523d217ffe0c07e1dbb
    @shadowolf505 in game, same on the forums too.
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