A force build

blockwave

I'm thinking about making a forcer build for my next toon, any ideas ?

flowcyto

Here's one:

(Unnamed Build) - Freeform

Super Stats
Level 6: Intelligence (Primary)
Level 10: Constitution (Secondary)
Level 15: Endurance (Secondary)

Talents
Level 1: The Glacier (Con: 10, End: 10, Dex: 8, Int: 10)
Level 6: Healthy Mind (Con: 5, Int: 5)
Level 9: Boundless Reserves (Con: 5, End: 5)
Level 12: Investigator (Int: 5, End: 5)
Level 15: Quick Recovery (Con: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 18: Negotiator (Int: 5, Rec: 5)
Level 21: Amazing Stamina (Rec: 5, End: 5)

Powers
Level 1: Force Bolts
Level 1: Force Blast (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 6: Force Shield (Rank 2, Force Sheathe)
Level 8: Quarry (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 11: Concentration
Level 14: Conviction (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 17: Molecular Self-Assembly
Level 20: Force Cascade (Rank 2, Rank 3)
Level 23: Force Geyser (Rank 2)
Level 26: Resurgence (Rank 2)
Level 29: Crushing Wave (Rank 2, Rank 3, Disruptive Force)
Level 32: Ego Surge (Nimble Mind)
Level 35:
Level 38:
Adv. Points: 30/36

Travel Powers
Level 6:
Level 35:

Specializations
Intelligence: Preparation (2/2)
Intelligence: Enlightened (3/3)
Intelligence: Detect Vulnerability (3/3)
Intelligence: Expertise (2/2)
Avenger: Ruthless (2/2)
Avenger: Round 'em Up (3/3)
Avenger: Offensive Expertise (2/2)
Avenger: Preemptive Strike (3/3)
Guardian: Fortified Gear (3/3)
Guardian: Ruthless (2/2)
Guardian: Find the Mark (2/3)
Guardian: The Best Defense (3/3)
Mastery: Intelligence Mastery (1/1)

Uses Force Blast and Geyser to build up energy, and uses FC when energy is plentiful. The blast can buff FC via Preemptive Strike, though if you want a more defensive setup, you can always use Guardicator for specs. Crushing Wave isn't great, but its a cheap AoE alternative to FC. Could always use an AoE from a diff powerset, if theme permits. Last 2 powers can be w/e. Gears mostly for Int and Con here.

blockwave

Force Cascade turn off your passive ? So Quarry ? If I understand it correctly, or does it turn off the energy you gain ?

blockwave

Oh and sorry for double post, but anyway to do force whitout molecular self-assembly ? I really hate that energy unlock.

jaazaniah1

Until they come around to giving Force its own EU (based on knocks?) MSA + Force Geyser is your best bet for building energy. Of course, Int as PSS helps build energy through MSA and Concentration and helps lower the cost of FC.

hemslord

blockwave said:

Force Cascade turn off your passive ? So Quarry ? If I understand it correctly, or does it turn off the energy you gain ?

Force Cascade disables your Energy Form. All of the elemental offensive passives (Electric, Fire, Ice, Wind and even Force) count as energy forms so if you were to use Force Cascade you would be without any passive for a while. Quarry on the other hand is not an Energy Form but still buffs physical damage and scales nicely with Intelligence, making it perfect for a Force Cascade build.

Also worth bearing in mind that Ego Surge is an energy form so you won't be able to use it like a typical AO if you decide to spam Force Cascade. I'm wondering if something like Lock'n'Load would be better for the build, but I've not personally had any experience with the Force powerset.

flowcyto

Ego Surge itself is an energy form, but Nimble Mind is a separate buff that isn't classed as an EF. So, although LnL is fine for its cost reduction, smaller crit boost, and not counting as an EF, I'd prob still recommend ES/NM just cause you can get one cheap FC by consuming the baseline buff, but retain the buff that matters more (NM).

hemslord

Ah, I assumed that both parts were considered an Energy Form. In that case I'd definitely go ahead with Ego Surge.