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what the hell gives on power points
northernlights60
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ok it says get 70 power points and be 70 lvl and you open the 4th tier yet I have past that for power points and lvl 70 HR and it wont open. Let me guess it's not working.
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It seems to hit some people and not others.
The devs have stated that using the free full respec you were provided with mod 6 will solve it, so I am not sure hey will ever fix it.
Based on OP's description, I don't think this bug applies to him. He did not mention he could not spend any points at all (which is the bug). He said he could not get the rank 4 power (as "it won't open"). The bug allows you to apply rank 4 power but you cannot save it.
Did you maybe hear anything about Cleric powers?
I have all of the healing powers on rank 4, + Geas and something felt off but i could not point what it was...
I also don't know the rank 4 problem of another class.
GWF 'punishing charge' rank 4 does not work. It goes back to rank one.
probably this.
It's the safe way.
On a different pitch, extending the topic:
A lot of the bugged ones have been described in the Bugs and Mod-6-Feedback hierarchy and in the class forums. But in dozens of threads and posts and splattered all over the place. I looked for this some time last week and couldn't seem to find anything like a blacklist of currently known Rank-4-skill-upgrades. And the thread where one should and could expect this, http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?878521-M6-Known-Issues, is plainly defunct.
So it seems to me that it might be a cool idea to compile a whitelist of powers where the 4th rank is known to work - will probably anyway be a lot shorter than the blacklist approach... :^/
That apparently could mean we get it for Xmas...
...also, if we start that thee's hope it'd become a pile of shame so quickly that they would a) get incentive to really, actually fix stuff, and b) hopefully take over or/and fill in gaps we leave.
Well, you can run ACT, and/or look at the combat log on your own. And see - at least for our old and trusted tools - whether the damage or time increases after ticking that fourth box. It's a bit more difficult for the two new tier skills, but even there one can see if the effect increases or doesn't increase.
The plan would be to make a (separate) thread where we compile positives ("Rank 4 works") and bugged ones ("Rank 4 broken") in a master list which then would allow people to reference before picking.
Of course this can't be done by any single person, but I'm really missing such a thing, currently. I'd even volunteer to launch the thread and edit together a complete-ish list and maintain that for a while, but neither do I really get to pick that many skill rank 4 picks - as alt-o-holic I'm happily nudging all my chars through SpinRise at a leisurely pace - nor am I really up to all the classes, so this would have to be a community effort.
That's the "can't spend more points"-bug - a different, but easy to mix-up bug. There's also the point that some skills do not, as one would expect, get the +5% or +10% more damage or time, but instead they go back to their base configuration, or even all but cease to function. Which is what this thread here is about.
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Yes.
If you did that (and many, including myself, did) you will be bugged and unable to allocate any further points. They started enforcing the rules but did not take the very basic step of fixing the database first. They still haven't fixed the database an they expect you to use your free respec to fix their error. If you do not have your respec you are stuck.
Maybe.
Some characters un-bug themselves at level 70, and some don't. Until you know whether you're bugged (spend an unspent power point if you have one, spend a newly earned boon point, or spend a newly earned power point from an overflow experience gift), don't respec with AD since it won't reset power points. Using a free re-spec or a re-training or race change token is fine since all of those re-do power points, too.
Add to TR: The skills that increase run speed stops working completely if you rank it to 4.
Eg. Rogue Class Feature "Skillful Infiltrator" No longer Works if rank 4; Rogue Class Feature "Sneak Attack" No longer Works if ranked to 4.
I know those two from personal experience. Don't rank them to 4 unless you like moving at zero run speed bonus stealthed and unstealthed.
I'm reading that if I get a "support ticket" that I can get a free respec for "bugged characters." Kind of sucks for me because I have no idea whether I'm bugged or not. Guess I'll have to break my toon in order to get it fixed.
There are at least 2 problems.
Problem 1: some people cannot put points to feat at all. The "fix" is recommended to do re-spec.
Problem 2: Rank 4 power can be messed up and that can make it worse than rank 1. This one has no solution yet but they have to fix it.
These problems started from spending a power point to upgrade power to rank 4. It does not tell if you have or do not have problem.
If and when you spend a power point on a fourth pick before you reach Lvl 70, and before you've spent 70 power points, your character might bug. This bug leads to you being unable to spend further power points or feat points on this char. From what I hear, if this happens to you (unable to spend PP or FP) a (free) respec fixes that and can be obtained, free of charge but with a long-ish wait (days not hours), via the cusstomer support pipeline.
There are other, skill specific bugs where that fourth pick breaks the skill's effectivity, but not the character's general functionality. Those latter ones can often go unnoticed, as this often means that the damage bonus for picks 2&3 (and the promised one for #4) disappear, or certain side functions don't work, or, in extreme cases, buffs studdenly buf the monsters, and not the player, or debuffs affect both, or...
...in those cases support will probably go all "thank you for contacting customer support. Please stand by while dev team will fix the game." - though I'd be pleasantly surprised to hear differently.
And IMHO a list of all those skills where this is known to happen - and/or one of skills where everything's WAI - is something I'd been looking for, but didn't yet find.
If you successfully spent a power point after the April 23 patch, then your character is not bugged.
As others have noted, there are some bugged rank 4 powers, but that isn't what this thread was about back when it started, and in those cases, it is the same for everybody playing.