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ravenanravenan Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 220 Arc User
edited May 2015 in PvP Discussion
My list:

1: OP & TR
2: CW & DC & GWF
3: HR & GF
4: SW

What do you think guys?
Main : GF - Lord Kruk
Steel and Magic
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  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    From strongest to weakest in my point of view.

    1) TR (Ahead of GWF only because of Shocking Execution and piercing damage. Remove those and the GWF beats him up like a ragdoll)
    2) GWF
    3) CW
    4) GF
    5) OaPa
    6) DC
    7) HR (It can strangely still beat CW though, due to lack of CC breaker of CW's).
    8) SW


    HR REALLY got down the chain lately, it's almost shocking.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Tbh pointles thread that will only lead to silly arguments about - no you are because of this answered by - no you are because of that...

    Nr 1 Tr see link
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu3Mga11yu4
    rest don't matter when you look at this.....
  • mirlegrismirlegris Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    marnival wrote: »
    Nr 1 Tr see link
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu3Mga11yu4
    rest don't matter when you look at this.....

    Just a vid for datas ? Yeah, very efficient.. with actual bugged matchmaking, a vid signify nothing, i can do this against less geared guys and other class can kill me easy too when they are better geared. At same gear, things are much equilbrated.

    The TR in this vid is overgeared and ennemy team was medium geared, no match, no significative data.

    For me :

    1) CW ( the only class who one-shot me even with my 85k pv )
    2) Immortal Paladins / HRs ( perma daze even with immunity control from oghma, what else ?)
    3) TR sabos ( medium damages at same gear level but good luck to find him and kill him..kings of trolls.. ) / Immortal DC / GWF
    4) GF / SW / Others TRs
  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    mirlegris wrote: »

    1) CW ( the only class who one-shot me even with my 85k pv )

    There's no such thing as a "CW 1-shotting" and never was, ever.

    They need a rework but don't exaggerate.
  • mirlegrismirlegris Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    There's no such thing as a "CW 1-shotting" and never was, ever.

    They need a rework but don't exaggerate.


    One-shot me when it's a very more geared cw, others class 2-3 shot me at this gear level. At same gear, no one shot, of course, just a good survivability and damages, most efficient class : cw can control, dps and tank with shield ;)

    "never".. in a lot of matchs in mod 5, i'm one-shoted by same gear level CW.
  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    mirlegris wrote: »
    One-shot me when it's a very more geared cw, others class 2-3 shot me at this gear level. At same gear, no one shot, of course, just a good survivability and damages, most efficient class : cw can control, dps and tank with shield ;)

    Once again, the CW cannot 1-shot. If it 1-shots you, then you seriously need to reconsider your character and gear.

    It can 1-ROTATION (3 encounters), NOT 1-SHOT
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  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    xsayajinx1 wrote: »
    Keep hearing it over and over again and it makes me going crazy.

    "Enemy has 50% HP left ... Ice Knife ... enemy dead ... yeeeah 1-shot" - NO?!?! What the...???

    1shot is from 100,00% to 0,00% HP in ONE single blow!

    Only TR is/was able to, to undergeared PuGs!!!

    Pretty much...

    That guy above is a prime example on why Developpers never read feedback.

    The hyberbole is unreal.
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Until AP bug is fixed:

    1. DC + Paladin cannot be killed
    2. CW (OP shield, high range and strong nukes on low cd)
    3. everything else is more or less on similar lvl.
  • mirlegrismirlegris Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Well guys, next time i'm one-shoted by a big CW, i share screens :). I know the signification of a One-shot, and my hp is from 100% to 0% ( soulforged proc, so, 0% ) in 1v1 against a 4k ilvl cw ( mythics artif., R12, transcendants, and elixirs), for comparaison, i'm a 2k ilvl tr with 3/4 pvp 70 items, green artifact equipment 70, 2 slots rings lvl 60, purple and blue artifacts.

    I think from the point of view of this guy, i'm an undergeared pug ^^.

    The best thing it's that i was in stealth. I was in stealth and the only thing i saw is a big ice knife kill me in 1 instant. Maybe is a bug exploiter, i don't know.

    I don't say that all cw overgeared can OS. I just say he make it, and it's cause of him if I think CW is the better class in this mod. Just my point of view cause of a personal experience.

    The original post say "What do you think guys?". No, "What is the feedback of the community in his globality".
  • ninefingers222ninefingers222 Member Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    PvP perspective

    TR (well played TR are even more broken than last mod, the really good BiS ones from the top pvp guilds can litterally throw 5 daggers (cloud of steel) and kill my BiS 117K HP GWF using trans negation, countless scars and warrior courage)
    OP (well the class name says it all OP, but in all honesty they are more broken than OP, the bugged offhand stun anyone? ffs)
    GF (so many GFs do not know how to play, but the few that do are beasts, heck even a BiS scrub with the right build does well, they can two or three shot anything, their burst damage is insane, I have personally been 2 shot)
    CW (so many CWs do not know how to play, but again the few that do can kite and nuke better and harder than anyone in the game, so far I haven't had to much trouble fighting them because so many just do not know how to move, a good CW will kite and kill you, a bad one will waste it's dodges and die)
    GWF/HR (GWF and HR while not bad vs undergeared low skilled players will suffer and be very underpowered compared to the classes above in the hands of a skilled BiS player)
    SW (same situation as before only the exploiting SWs are a real threat in a 1vs1)

    OP GF and CW are pretty much on par with each other as far as OPness goes .
    Essence of Aggression, OG PvP GWF
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  • k9madrushk9madrush Member Posts: 534 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    The name for thread is "Who among the classes you hated the most and why?" or " Who wants to be a hypocrite?" :rolleyes: amazingly real! some of people here are ogres making a useless thread just to vent the hate and fool themselves in a make believe my favorite class is not imbalace

    cheers people fakes gonna fake and haters gonna hate

    shake it off :cool:
  • lemonchilllemonchill Member Posts: 523 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ravenan wrote: »
    my list:

    1: Op & tr
    2: Cw & dc & gwf
    3: Hr & gf
    4: Sw

    what do you think guys?

    the most op class are the ppl that use bots, exploits to get all p.artifacts runes etc!!!!
  • ravenanravenan Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Wow didnt expect this. I wanted to see your opinion when taking all classes into account. There are few nerf threats now, it its look like "i dont like this specific class because"... Fought few premades and wanted to compare my expiriences. Today's power creep is enormous, thats for sure.
    Main : GF - Lord Kruk
    Steel and Magic
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    Sabo TRs, GWFs and CWs probably.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Paladin (most OP), then TR, then GF and finally CW.
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    According to this thread:

    Unless a TR is utterly incapable of killing anyone else and is delegated to a node doorstopper (Mod 4), TR is OP.
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    morenthar wrote: »
    I think this is an awful thread full of awful opinions.

    And guess what you are? ...

    ...

    .. wait for it..


    .....
    ...

    An awful TR.
  • colonelwingcolonelwing Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    1. TR
    2. OP
    3. DC
    4. GF/GWF
    5. HR/CW
    6. SW

    My unbiased, opinion.

  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    1. TR
    2. OP
    3. DC
    4. GF/GWF
    5. HR
    6. SW

    My unbiased, opinion.

    you left out a class.
  • mirlegrismirlegris Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    mjytresz wrote: »
    According to this thread:

    Unless a TR is utterly incapable of killing anyone else and is delegated to a node doorstopper (Mod 4), TR is OP.

    Exactly. TR should be a human sacrifice class ! He can't kill you, he can just be a troll at a node, but he is invisible, so OP !

    TR will be considered "OP" as long as they have stealth.
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  • crixus8000crixus8000 Member Posts: 1,205 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    From my fights I would say:

    1. TR - OP

    2. DC - CW

    3. GF - GWF

    4. HR

    5. SW
    Crixus - PVP GF
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • joocycuzzzzzzjoocycuzzzzzz Member Posts: 577 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Okay, let's anaylze ranking of classes depending from the point of view of each class. This is my personal opinion.. feel free to comment on it on why you agree and disagree.


    From a CW's point view:

    1) TR
    2) HR (Only because of the constant daze and CW's lack of CC breaker)
    3) GWF
    4) GF
    5) Paladin
    6) DC
    7) SW


    From a TR's point of view

    They beat pretty much everyone currently, so we'll rank the classes from peskiest to easiest to kill.

    1) Paladin
    2) GF
    3) DC
    4) CW
    5) HR
    6) GWF
    7) SW


    From a HR's point of view

    1) TR
    2) GF
    3) GWF
    4) Paladin
    5) DC
    6) CW
    7) SW

    From a DC's point of view (I'm gonna take DPS DC here because faithful can tie with everyone but CW)

    1) CW
    2) TR
    3) GF
    4) GWF
    5) Paladin
    6) HR
    7) SW


    From a GF's point of view

    1) TR
    2) GWF
    3) CW
    4) Paladin
    5) DC
    6) HR
    7) SW


    From a GWF's point of view

    1) TR
    2) GF
    3) Paladin
    4) DC
    5) CW
    6) HR
    7) SW


    From a SW's point of view

    Loses to everyone.. but yeah.

    1) TR
    2) CW
    3) HR
    4) DC
    5) GWF
    6) GF
    7) Paladin




    Paladin's point of view is still unclear right now.. will wait until more BiS Paladins appear.
    Beta player

    One of the many Control Wizards that misses Shard Of The Endless Avalanche. RIP Shard (Beta-Mod3)
  • foxxy#4211 foxxy Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Imo, in order of OPness.

    1. CW: A class that always gets buffed not matter the feedback we give. She cannot certainly 1-shot you, but their new skill "desintegrate" can kill you in less than 10 secs.
    2. HR: Not an op class judged by damage. But trapper path can perma daze and root you, while killing you slowly with low damage.
    3. OP: Majority of kills done by OaPa are done by their broken Daily divine judge. Even being the only "skill" that deals damage, it is not a reason to deal so much. A part of this, you cannot kill them. They have the best tank feats, features and skills.
    4. TR: Shocking execution is not a problem anymore, since now we have better HP. Only class with problems against Rogues is warlocks. In this module if u dont survive more than 1 minute vs a rogue, u either low geared or skilless.
    5. GF: A balanced class, but their damage was a bit overbuffed.
    6. GWF: The only class than can have a fair fight where both parts are equally geared.
    7. DC: are not a problem anymore, start worrying when OaPa get real geared.
    8. SW: RIP.
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I have run into a few paladins whose health bars never move no matter how long I hit them and then they one shot me from full health with a daily. I think that's definately the most OP class, there just are not many geared ones at lvl 70 yet.
  • dodgododgo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 870 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    GF or your doing it wrong derps
  • rotatorkufrotatorkuf Member Posts: 537 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    i think it's honestly too early to tell, since there's so many variations in gear makeups and builds

    but, in my honest opinion, as bad as **** has been, and from a very small sample size, class balance is pretty close to being even

    every class has its advantages and disadvantages (even though some may appear to be tipping more toward OP)
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