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venjendorzvenjendorz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
edited April 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
Not everyone has lag issues. Not everyone is complaining about every single detail.

There is a ton of us in-game having an absolute blast playing. Getting new gear. Attempting new dungeons.

In my opinion, and thankfully I am not a moderator, a lot of posts are being overly whiny. There is quite the sense of entitlement going around. However, I am starting to see more and more people that are simply enjoying playing the game speak up to silence the abundance of nay-sayers.

Just yesterday, a few people in the legit channel were going around saying how this game is ruined and no one should play anymore, and for the first time in a while, quite a few people stood in defense. It was really nice to see.

To the people complaining, or have a complaint... if it is bug-related, submit a detailed bug-report. When referring to the bug, link back to this detailed bug report. Saying "the bug about X has been reported on about a dozen times" is not useful... if it has... link to it.

If you're unhappy with a portion of the game, explain using some sort of rationale. I'm sincerely tired of hearing the whole "I could kill these guys a month ago... why can't I kill them now?" or "This game is ****, can not even do dungeons now you die so fast" (meanwhile they are in full level 60 gear).

So to the newcomers and the current players, this game is a lot of fun. It has its quirks, but so does literally every other game out there. If you are looking for an "easy" game, I would recommend Sims 3.

Otherwise, Happy Hunting! Slay on!
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  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    When the house is on fire, there's always a few who enjoy it.
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • umcjdkingumcjdking Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    venjendorz wrote: »
    Not everyone has lag issues. Not everyone is complaining about every single detail.

    There is a ton of us in-game having an absolute blast playing. Getting new gear. Attempting new dungeons.

    In my opinion, and thankfully I am not a moderator, a lot of posts are being overly whiny. There is quite the sense of entitlement going around. However, I am starting to see more and more people that are simply enjoying playing the game speak up to silence the abundance of nay-sayers.

    Just yesterday, a few people in the legit channel were going around saying how this game is ruined and no one should play anymore, and for the first time in a while, quite a few people stood in defense. It was really nice to see.

    To the people complaining, or have a complaint... if it is bug-related, submit a detailed bug-report. When referring to the bug, link back to this detailed bug report. Saying "the bug about X has been reported on about a dozen times" is not useful... if it has... link to it.

    If you're unhappy with a portion of the game, explain using some sort of rationale. I'm sincerely tired of hearing the whole "I could kill these guys a month ago... why can't I kill them now?" or "This game is ****, can not even do dungeons now you die so fast" (meanwhile they are in full level 60 gear).

    So to the newcomers and the current players, this game is a lot of fun. It has its quirks, but so does literally every other game out there. If you are looking for an "easy" game, I would recommend Sims 3.

    Otherwise, Happy Hunting! Slay on!

    The game is currently broken. You can twist it however you like, but in order for me to spend my moey & time on something is needs to be delivered professionally.
  • kabinoleskabinoles Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    are you familiar with the term ,titanic
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  • skandranon68skandranon68 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I guess if you head is stuck in the sand, it is difficult to notice what is going on.
    And since a lot of players are complaying, maybe, just maybe, there is some fire and not only smoke
  • yokki1yokki1 Member Posts: 451 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    some people like to live in denial
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    ihaveahies wrote: »
    The thing is, if you ask everyone if they like a kick in the nuts, there's gonna be someone who will say yes. If you like the content, great but generally the most I see in social groups is people unsatisfied. Personally I managed to level up my paladin for 2x xp. I find it slow and boring for the campaign stuff (which wasn't exciting in the first place, just something you wanted to blaze through). I had to change contracts for IWD though since the raiders were too tough.

    Some people are too entitled, but when people have put money into the game, they rightly have the right to voice their opinion.

    paladin is slow, but in t1 gear i have no problems with 5man hes, i usually run a few when i have time so more ppl can finish the quest, the dungeon damage is a bit weird, with mobs sometimes dealing like 5x their normal damage, but at least daily quests are more fun when you have to dodge stuff, not facetank everything, some ppl have fun soloing the hard content like 5 and 10man HEs, there is finally a reason to run dungeons, had almost frogotten how much fun is running hard content with guild, since the last somewhat challenging content was VT near its launch, brings back memories of fun we had running old t2 in mod1, after that ppl mostly did daily quests, ran that dumb tiamat, with no way to enter in a party and too many ppl for guild runs

    ofc there are bunch of bugs and stuff, but that happens with every game(though it does happen with neverwinter much more often than with other games)
    Paladin Master Race
  • venjendorzvenjendorz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Lmfao, nay-sayers are out in full force today apparently.

    The game is not "broken". I can run any dungeon with any group. I can solo any area, including heroics in IWD (havn't tried WoD heroics yet). I get random lag once in a while, but nothing debilitating.

    So what is broken? Why is the game ruined? You guys draw metaphors as if they actually mean something. This game is not the titanic, this game is not a burning building. PvE content is challenging, PvP is actually fun without the rampant 1-shoting. So many changes helped the game immensely. Many more changes will continue to improve this game.

    General despair and entitlement isn't going to serve anyone any good. So please, keep it to yourself. If you find the game boring, why are you still playing? If you don't enjoy playing, why are you still playing? If you think the game is broken, why are you still playing?

    Because you KNOW this game is friggen fun. That's why. I never expected sweeping support, considering most people staring at the forums right now are people who want to voice their "upsetness" because they "deserve" something.

    Mod 6 has brought some of the most fun with friends and guildies I've had in a long time.
  • lowenduslowendus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Can you shed some light on how, and which areas and parts of the game u enjoy and have tons of fun playing now save for ELOL ?

    Lagward Rise ?

    Dailies in wod ?
    Mobs hit so hard you need a **** full party to go through...and you know what ? There's a considerable number of lone-wolves, you know...people who like having solo fun playing games, then team up with friends and randoms whenever they wanna do something different...now it's kinda forced..dungeons I understand...and hell...I like the idea of complete team compositions with support and dps classes...but feeling I need 2-3 people to do a DR or WoD lair...jesus no...

    ESOT ?
    Boss's Aoe can kill a 80K HP CW with his shield on frikkin tab.

    CC ? or other T2's ?
    ****...if a mob sneezes on you it one shots you

    Or the other ?
    ...oh wait....no more dungeons!

    Post mod 6 leveling I find myself logging in every day by force of habit then realizing that apart from ELOL I have nothing left to do in this game...and it's killing me.
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  • lowenduslowendus Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    venjendorz wrote: »
    are you still playing? If you don't enjoy playing, why are you still playing? If you think the game is broken, why are you still playing?

    Because you KNOW this game is friggen fun. That's why. I never expected sweeping support, considering most people staring at the forums right now are people who want to voice their "upsetness" because they "deserve" something.

    Mod 6 has brought some of the most fun with friends and guildies I've had in a long time.

    a) Because hope dies last
    b) Because mobs in T2's have absurd damage no matter what you say.
    c) Because apart from doing stuff with friends and guildies some people enjoy the casual solo PVE play.
    e) Because others (luckily not me, I've chipped in my share but not much) have invested a heck-ton of money in the game and now they feel they lost their money's worth ? they're somewhat entitled to an oppinion since they are a customer for a now somewhat broken end product.

    Specifically on "General Despair" and "Entitlement" I have to say that anyone who has put his good buck in this game has been granted General Despair by the current state of the game and is Entitled to voice his oppinion as a contributing customer.
  • umcjdkingumcjdking Member Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    venjendorz wrote: »
    Lmfao, nay-sayers are out in full force today apparently.

    The game is not "broken". I can run any dungeon with any group. I can solo any area, including heroics in IWD (havn't tried WoD heroics yet). I get random lag once in a while, but nothing debilitating.

    So what is broken? Why is the game ruined? You guys draw metaphors as if they actually mean something. This game is not the titanic, this game is not a burning building. PvE content is challenging, PvP is actually fun without the rampant 1-shoting. So many changes helped the game immensely. Many more changes will continue to improve this game.

    General despair and entitlement isn't going to serve anyone any good. So please, keep it to yourself. If you find the game boring, why are you still playing? If you don't enjoy playing, why are you still playing? If you think the game is broken, why are you still playing?

    Because you KNOW this game is friggen fun. That's why. I never expected sweeping support, considering most people staring at the forums right now are people who want to voice their "upsetness" because they "deserve" something.

    Mod 6 has brought some of the most fun with friends and guildies I've had in a long time.

    I'm not playing.

    I'm waiting for them to fix quite a few things, most notably the 60-70 leveling & gearing process, mob difficulty - some hit for 100k+ THROUGH shield. How about Dread Ring and Sharandar equipment? Game instability, which you can attempt to deflect all you want by your experience, but the majority of players it simply lags to hell and back.

    Or how about more than HALF of the end game content has utterly disappeared?
  • herpnderp2herpnderp2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    OP definitely isn't a veteran/elitist with above average gear :rolleyes:
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Yeah, and a epically <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> ton of players quietly raging about this.

    You must mean 5% of players are having a blast. Who the hell would enjoy gutted frustrating content..?

    You earn less, have to grind more. NO ONE ENJOYS THAT!
  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    There is definitely enough issues, that Im unsure how you can turn a blind eye.

    This thread wouldnt exist if there wasnt, http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?904061-A-Message-Regarding-Neverwinter-Elemental-Evil.

    I agree sometimes the players go overboard; for example when the server dies; the company jumps on it right away and tries to get it back up., but still people post craziness.

    But for a Mod/Expansion release, too many issues to be apathetic towards them. Sure give cryptic some time to fix what they can, but the players have every right to voice their opinion.

    Edit: BTW I do agree ingame actually more about the doomsayers. Anytime Im in PE, half the chat is about how bad people think it is, I usually just ignore it, but its pretty constant. I usually keep most things in-game light hearted and positive, but post concerns on the fourm, cause well this is where you post them....
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  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    venjendorz wrote: »
    Lmfao, nay-sayers are out in full force today apparently.

    The game is not "broken". I can run any dungeon with any group. I can solo any area, including heroics in IWD (havn't tried WoD heroics yet). I get random lag once in a while, but nothing debilitating.

    So what is broken? Why is the game ruined? You guys draw metaphors as if they actually mean something. This game is not the titanic, this game is not a burning building. PvE content is challenging, PvP is actually fun without the rampant 1-shoting. So many changes helped the game immensely. Many more changes will continue to improve this game.

    General despair and entitlement isn't going to serve anyone any good. So please, keep it to yourself. If you find the game boring, why are you still playing? If you don't enjoy playing, why are you still playing? If you think the game is broken, why are you still playing?

    Because you KNOW this game is friggen fun. That's why. I never expected sweeping support, considering most people staring at the forums right now are people who want to voice their "upsetness" because they "deserve" something.

    Mod 6 has brought some of the most fun with friends and guildies I've had in a long time.

    No one's saying you can't enjoy your assortment of bugs, however, you're empirically wrong with half of what you're saying.

    Multiple classes have broken, bugged, or unusable Encounters, Feats, Class Features, or Dailies.
    Multiple classes have broken, bugged, or unusable Paragon Paths.
    There is no semblance of class balance in PvP or PvE.
    The new elemental zones have a memory leak problem.
    Some of the old areas (MC, eSoT, etc) have varying arrays of lag problems.

    Also, no, you're not clearing any dungeon with any party. The day I see you clear eGWD with 5 DPS, without bug abusing, is the day I hand my account over to you.
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • venjendorzvenjendorz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lowendus wrote: »
    Can you shed some light on how, and which areas and parts of the game u enjoy and have tons of fun playing now save for ELOL ?

    Lagward Rise ?

    Dailies in wod ?
    Mobs hit so hard you need a **** full party to go through...and you know what ? There's a considerable number of lone-wolves, you know...people who like having solo fun playing games, then team up with friends and randoms whenever they wanna do something different...now it's kinda forced..dungeons I understand...and hell...I like the idea of complete team compositions with support and dps classes...but feeling I need 2-3 people to do a DR or WoD lair...jesus no...

    ESOT ?
    Boss's Aoe can kill a 80K HP CW with his shield on frikkin tab.

    CC ? or other T2's ?
    ****...if a mob sneezes on you it one shots you

    Or the other ?
    ...oh wait....no more dungeons!

    Post mod 6 leveling I find myself logging in every day by force of habit then realizing that apart from ELOL I have nothing left to do in this game...and it's killing me.


    Lag in spinward was a little annoying. But it wasn't unbearable when i went through it. I actually thoroughly enjoyed spinward, I hope to go back soon to just kill stuff.

    I can solo almost all of WoD, I did cult prison solo on my SW.

    eSoT... i had a feeling someone was going to bring that up. CC the drakes (DC and CW are good with this for long-CC), and focus the boss. Killing drakes gives the boss a buff. Stop being a scrub and learn mechanics.

    Did ToS the other night... i could take ~3 hits from a mob. I'm not a tank, and shouldn't be tanking, and therefore shouldn't worry about dying if the tank is doing their job.

    I am having a lot of fun running VT, eLoL, ToS, kessel's, eSoT, IWD dailies, heralds, domination, GG. Farming areas for certain drops to AH.
  • venjendorzvenjendorz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lowendus wrote: »
    a) Because hope dies last
    b) Because mobs in T2's have absurd damage no matter what you say.
    c) Because apart from doing stuff with friends and guildies some people enjoy the casual solo PVE play.
    e) Because others (luckily not me, I've chipped in my share but not much) have invested a heck-ton of money in the game and now they feel they lost their money's worth ? they're somewhat entitled to an oppinion since they are a customer for a now somewhat broken end product.

    Specifically on "General Despair" and "Entitlement" I have to say that anyone who has put his good buck in this game has been granted General Despair by the current state of the game and is Entitled to voice his oppinion as a contributing customer.

    Having "invested" (although this is a terrible use of the word) money in to this game does not ENTITLE you to an opinion any more than any other player.
  • venjendorzvenjendorz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    herpnderp2 wrote: »
    OP definitely isn't a veteran/elitist with above average gear :rolleyes:

    I've never owned a legendary anything. I have been slowly working my way. I am close though :)

    Although my profile says I joined ARC in 2011, I've only been playing since mod3 or 4.

    I am in full blue alliance gear, with JC rings.
  • venjendorzvenjendorz Member Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    mjytresz wrote: »
    No one's saying you can't enjoy your assortment of bugs, however, you're empirically wrong with half of what you're saying.

    Multiple classes have broken, bugged, or unusable Encounters, Feats, Class Features, or Dailies.
    Multiple classes have broken, bugged, or unusable Paragon Paths.
    There is no semblance of class balance in PvP or PvE.
    The new elemental zones have a memory leak problem.
    Some of the old areas (MC, eSoT, etc) have varying arrays of lag problems.

    Also, no, you're not clearing any dungeon with any party. The day I see you clear eGWD with 5 DPS, without bug abusing, is the day I hand my account over to you.


    Sorry for ignoring the rest of your post, because I think I've answered most of your comments when responding to other people...

    No class balance? Everyone constantly says how SW is the most underpowered class in the game for PvP and PvE... yet I come on top for every single dungeon and nearly every single PvP. People need to still learn how to play the new mod, figure out stat allocation, stop using augment companions, learn to CC, learn to dodge CC, learn to predict encounters for PvP, learn to know WHEN to go in and when NOT to.

    In regards to clearing a T2 dungeon with 5 dps... that's an idiotic request. Dungeons are not SUPPOSED to be doable with 5 dps.
  • setimoselosetimoselo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Some people are content with anything. Those people are good because they are the population on every dying game out there that you still want to try. Some people arnt content with anything. Those people are good because the points of improvement that those critical people have are usually accurate. Most of us are in the middle and this thread is a bashing thread no matter how passive aggressive it is. Surprised it wasn't locked.
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  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hey OP, just wanted to chime in support of you... :)

    Is Mod 6 perfect? Nope, and there is a lot to fix. However I think it's better then it was, and I'm enjoying playing a great deal more.

    :cool:
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  • alisi1alisi1 Member Posts: 366 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    setimoselo wrote: »
    Some people are content with anything. Those people are good because they are the population on every dying game out there that you still want to try. Some people arnt content with anything. Those people are good because the points of improvement that those critical people have are usually accurate. Most of us are in the middle and this thread is a bashing thread no matter how passive aggressive it is. Surprised it wasn't locked.
    Yep and it should be locked.
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    This thread can only devolve into a back and forth argument. There are those that enjoy mod 6 and those that despise it, and many in between. All are allowed their opinions and feedback within the boundaries of the Rules of Conduct.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL

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