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Iron vanguard need love in pve:) follows video vanguard tank both scorpions.

mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
edited April 2015 in PvE Discussion
The last days i read something about swordmaster daily immunity because the steel defence feat is the only option to stay alive +tank in a dungeon.Lets take a look on this iron vanguard guardian fighter.Here goes:


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ncp68

quality sucks to full screen i know:)
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  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    (edit) dbl post
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    Honestly speaking mam, I don't think you can expect a full tank role from GWFs now, IV or not.

    The way things are GWFs should not be expected to take on a tank role -- but rather play tank/dps/bodyguard-ish hybrid support role. I know quite a few GF players who are for the first time more or less happy to see that they play an unshakable central role as tanks in PvE -- as opposed to how they were generally obsolete in that the GWF would deal more DPS and still be able to tank the things the same.

    I don't imagine the devs rolling back on this change and enabling GWFs to play a full central tank role any time soon.

    (ps) (or are you referencing purely GFs here??)
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    my video is a response to guardian fighter swordmaster .
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  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    mamalion1234 wrote: »
    my video is a response to guardian fighter swordmaster .

    Er, still a bit confused here. So are you saying the GF/SM paragon needs a bit of love, or the IV/GF paragon does?
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    mirrorballs wrote: »
    Er, still a bit confused here. So are you saying the GF/SM paragon needs a bit of love, or the IV/GF paragon does?

    I think he means the IV GF needs love as it is supposedly the tanking paragon yet the SM GF, supposedly the DPS paragon, is the superior tank thanks to a class feature.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    thestaggy wrote: »
    I think he means the IV GF needs love as it is supposedly the tanking paragon yet the SM GF, supposedly the DPS paragon, is the superior tank thanks to a class feature.

    Ah, that makes sense, then.
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    My bad my message is confusing i will explain clear what i mean.I have seen many people changed to swordmaster just to have that feat to tank in dungeons.If you love to play iron vanguard you dont need to change to swordmaster to tank my video proves (scorpions is one of the hardests fights for gf ) that you can tank and as vanguard yea steel defence is good but if you love vanguard dont change it can tank too.
    I also believe sm not even need the steel defence ( even in tier 2 dungeon).Videos from tier 2 dungeon after this lag-bugs will get fix.
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Scorps dont have to be tanked friend, tell the peeps to take care of themselves. How did you do at lostmouth? I have seen many GFS die even standing in the middle of HG (rank 4 mitigation) + ashield (rank 4 mitigation) + foresight (rank 4 mitigation) and additional 5% mitigation on hot healing, with shield up and still go down.

    Even though elol is still the easiest to me anyways DD, the damage scaling can be insane sometimes.
  • ravenanravenan Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    mehh i soloed lostmouth from 28% hp with my conq SM. Its not rocket science, just dont get chain proned, get AP gain on block and FR sloted. Kinda easy repetitive fight.
    Main : GF - Lord Kruk
    Steel and Magic
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Scorps dont have to be tanked friend, tell the peeps to take care of themselves. How did you do at lostmouth? I have seen many GFS die even standing in the middle of HG (rank 4 mitigation) + ashield (rank 4 mitigation) + foresight (rank 4 mitigation) and additional 5% mitigation on hot healing, with shield up and still go down.

    Even though elol is still the easiest to me anyways DD, the damage scaling can be insane sometimes.

    lostmauth is even easier his attacks are slow like turtle;p

    edit: sometimes at 50% centre phase it bugs and centre is full fire.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    tbh all I see in this video,paying attention at GF hole time, is a tank that holds aggro from both scorps, performing very good in avoiding the deadly hit and deadly aoe, good performance since he just avoids every hit, can´t see him facetanking one of the scorps, so what is prooved by this?
  • drakcertdrakcert Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    mirrorballs wrote: »
    Honestly speaking mam, I don't think you can expect a full tank role from GWFs now, IV or not.

    The way things are GWFs should not be expected to take on a tank role -- but rather play tank/dps/bodyguard-ish hybrid support role. I know quite a few GF players who are for the first time more or less happy to see that they play an unshakable central role as tanks in PvE -- as opposed to how they were generally obsolete in that the GWF would deal more DPS and still be able to tank the things the same.

    I don't imagine the devs rolling back on this change and enabling GWFs to play a full central tank role any time soon.

    (ps) (or are you referencing purely GFs here??)



    Sorry to say this but the Gwf never had a role in this game is a class that can do everything but never better than the classes focused
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