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Since enemies in mod 6 seem to take forever to kill, I decided to do a survey of their health.
Methodology: The Foundry editor's kill command. (Values marked with ? are projected, the rest were measured directly.)
role6070717273
minionartillery4021311383433336737?39685
minioncontroller44943480238371?4106044353?
minionskirmisher473036633403924322146688
minionbrute567643960484705186556026
standardartillery173306710973993?79176?85527?
standardcontroller193697500482698?88491?95589?
standardskirmisher20388789518705293149100621
standardbrute2446694742104462111778120746
eliteartillery27728107374118390126681?136843?
elitecontroller30990120006132316?141586152944
eliteskirmisher32622126322139283149038?160994
elitebrute39146151587167139178844?193193
soloartillery55456?214749?236777?253363?273686?
solocontroller61981240012264633?283171?305884?
soloskirmisher65243252645278563?298075321987?
solobrute78292303173334278?357690386386
Things to note:
1. Level 73 enemies have roughly five (5) times the health of level 60 enemies.
2. The minion:standard ratio changes from 60 to 70+. However, minions in general are less consistent than other enemies, so this may be sampling error. If it's not sampling error, then level 73 minions have roughly ten (10) times the health of level 60 minions.
3. Enemies in minor heroic encounters seem to have three (3) times as much health as regular enemies, although I only took a couple samples.
4. Level 70 enemies inside the Vault of the Nine quest had 30% more health (50% more for minions) than level 70 enemies elsewhere. Hypothesis: Vault of the Nine was overlooked during a tuning pass.
For reference, here is a table of enemy damage resistance, since it contributes to their tankiness:
(Again, values marked with ? are projected, the rest were measured directly.)
role6070717273
minionartillery12.8%19.2%19.2%25.6%?32.0%
minioncontroller11.2%16.8%16.8%?22.4%28.0%?
minionskirmisher14.4%21.6%21.6%28.8%36.0%
minionbrute16.0%24.0%24.0%32.0%40.0%
standardartillery14.4%21.6%21.6%?28.8%?36.0%?
standardcontroller12.6%18.9%18.9%?25.2%?31.5%?
standardskirmisher16.2%24.3%24.3%32.4%40.5%
standardbrute18.0%27.0%27.0%36.0%45.0%
eliteartillery14.0%21.0%21.0%28.0%?35.0%?
elitecontroller14.0%21.0%21.0%?28.0%35.0%
eliteskirmisher18.0%27.0%27.0%36.0%?45.0%
elitebrute20.0%30.0%30.0%40.0%?50.0%
soloartillery15.4%?23.1%?23.1%?30.8%?38.5%?
solocontroller15.4%23.1%23.1%?30.8%?38.5%?
soloskirmisher19.8%29.7%29.7%?39.6%49.5%?
solobrute22.0%33.0%33.0%?44.0%55.0%
Methodology: The Foundry editor's kill command. (Values marked with ? are projected, the rest were measured directly.)
role6070717273
minionartillery4021311383433336737?39685
minioncontroller44943480238371?4106044353?
minionskirmisher473036633403924322146688
minionbrute567643960484705186556026
standardartillery173306710973993?79176?85527?
standardcontroller193697500482698?88491?95589?
standardskirmisher20388789518705293149100621
standardbrute2446694742104462111778120746
eliteartillery27728107374118390126681?136843?
elitecontroller30990120006132316?141586152944
eliteskirmisher32622126322139283149038?160994
elitebrute39146151587167139178844?193193
soloartillery55456?214749?236777?253363?273686?
solocontroller61981240012264633?283171?305884?
soloskirmisher65243252645278563?298075321987?
solobrute78292303173334278?357690386386
Things to note:
1. Level 73 enemies have roughly five (5) times the health of level 60 enemies.
2. The minion:standard ratio changes from 60 to 70+. However, minions in general are less consistent than other enemies, so this may be sampling error. If it's not sampling error, then level 73 minions have roughly ten (10) times the health of level 60 minions.
3. Enemies in minor heroic encounters seem to have three (3) times as much health as regular enemies, although I only took a couple samples.
4. Level 70 enemies inside the Vault of the Nine quest had 30% more health (50% more for minions) than level 70 enemies elsewhere. Hypothesis: Vault of the Nine was overlooked during a tuning pass.
For reference, here is a table of enemy damage resistance, since it contributes to their tankiness:
(Again, values marked with ? are projected, the rest were measured directly.)
role6070717273
minionartillery12.8%19.2%19.2%25.6%?32.0%
minioncontroller11.2%16.8%16.8%?22.4%28.0%?
minionskirmisher14.4%21.6%21.6%28.8%36.0%
minionbrute16.0%24.0%24.0%32.0%40.0%
standardartillery14.4%21.6%21.6%?28.8%?36.0%?
standardcontroller12.6%18.9%18.9%?25.2%?31.5%?
standardskirmisher16.2%24.3%24.3%32.4%40.5%
standardbrute18.0%27.0%27.0%36.0%45.0%
eliteartillery14.0%21.0%21.0%28.0%?35.0%?
elitecontroller14.0%21.0%21.0%?28.0%35.0%
eliteskirmisher18.0%27.0%27.0%36.0%?45.0%
elitebrute20.0%30.0%30.0%40.0%?50.0%
soloartillery15.4%?23.1%?23.1%?30.8%?38.5%?
solocontroller15.4%23.1%23.1%?30.8%?38.5%?
soloskirmisher19.8%29.7%29.7%?39.6%49.5%?
solobrute22.0%33.0%33.0%?44.0%55.0%
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Comments
What is a solo role?
The "difficulty" roles can be distinguished by counting the segments in the health bar:
minion: 1 segment
standard: 3 segments
elite: 5 segments
solo: 7 segments (or is it 9? I can't remember)
Examples of solo enemies:
solo controller: Fomorian Totemist, Fomorian Witch
solo skirmisher: Fomorian Warrior
solo brute: Ogre Savage, Plaguechanged Maw, Shocktroop Devil, Foulspawn Hulk, Magma Brute, Thoon Hulk
I don't know of any solo artillery, hence my projected values for their HP.
Nice. You should put the table into the Advanced Foundry Topics on the wiki.
From Encounter Matrix: (a few modules old but still useful)
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH][/TH]
[TH]Encounter Name[/TH]
[TH]Racial Class[/TH]
[TH]Attack Type[/TH]
[TH]Role[/TH]
[TH]Difficulty[/TH]
[TH]Weapon Type[/TH]
Plaguechanged Maw
Abolithic Sovereignty
Mixed
Brute
Solo
Punch
Shocktroop Devil
Ashmadai
Melee
Brute
Solo
Sword and Shield
Magma Brute
Fire
Mixed
Brute
Solo
Fire
Fomorian Warrior
Fomorian
Melee
Skirmisher
Solo
One Handed Mace
Fomorian Totemist
Fomorian
Ranged
Controller
Solo
Magical
Fomorian Witch
Fomorian
Ranged
Controller
Solo
Magical
Hulk
Foulspawn
Melee
Brute
Solo
Magical
Thoon Hulk
Mindflayer
Mixed
Brute
Solo
Arm Blades
Ogre Savage
Ogre
Melee
Brute
Solo
Two Handed Club
Encounter Matrix | Advanced Foundry Topics
Now, we can define an enemy's tankiness as: tankiness = health / (1 - damage resistance)
Then the following table shows the tankiness of various enemies divided by the tankiness of the same enemy at level 60:
(Empty spots were projected values in my original tables.)
role6070717273
minionartillery1.08.49.212.7
minioncontroller1.08.310.5
minionskirmisher1.08.59.311.013.2
minionbrute1.08.69.411.313.8
standardartillery1.04.2
standardcontroller1.04.2
standardskirmisher1.04.34.75.77.0
standardbrute1.04.34.85.97.4
eliteartillery1.04.24.6
elitecontroller1.04.25.56.5
eliteskirmisher1.04.34.87.4
elitebrute1.04.44.97.9
soloartillery1.0
solocontroller1.04.3
soloskirmisher1.04.46.1
solobrute1.04.56.48.6
Notes:
1. Minions clearly received the greatest boost in tankiness from module 6, because of the change in how their health is calculated.
2. Because damage resistance is more valuable the more you get, enemies with more damage resistance at level 60 received greater boosts. For example, brutes were boosted more than controllers, and solos were boosted more than elites.
Is there any chance to test the HP/DR of mobs of HEs and/or Dungeons?
PS - Check your PMs!
Damage resistance can be tested by anyone who runs the content.
Exact HP values are trickier, hence using the foundry author kill command. The foundry author character can't queue for dungeons or skirmishes, and has to unlock zones like any other character. So some Heroic Encounters are easy to visit, but others aren't.