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Level 70 Temptation Warlock & Lifesteal Gear

lordmorin42lordmorin42 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 189 Arc User
edited April 2015 in The Nine Hells
So, there is no L70 Life steal gear at all for a Temptation Warlock. I've looked at all the gear drops I could find in the game; the blues, the epics, etc. I could not find a single suit of armor, head piece, gloves, or boots that had life steal.

Weapon, offhand, rings, neck, yes; but nothing else. All Defense, Power or Critical, Recovery, Armor Pen, but no Life Steal.

Are they trying to absolutely destroy the Temptation SW healer tree???
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    PVP armor has some lifesteal ca. 900 (two parts) + blue rings+ neck/belt+ feats + boons i come at 4,2k easily, not slotting any stone with lifesteal, so take some stone in defence slots take the right fead+ the right boon and you come >6k + temp lifesteal in fight on top + weapon enchant gives lifesteal too, correct?
    ah lets say in fight you end up at 8k+ what do you need more?
  • khryniakittykhryniakitty Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Exactly, what do you need more? All you have to do is walk around in a partial pvp set, the rest in blues and greens. Then stick your feats in some of the biggest waste of points like the chance for an extra 10*level (oh boy 700 life steal instead of a feat that's actually worth having). Toss on top that every enchant that can be life steal must be life steal. Oh and I forgot maxing out all the artifacts and arti weapons, then you get to a bare minimum of a stat that defines the entire build. Maybe after you go through the months of effort it takes to reach that part you can start doing the low end dungeons because no team is going to let you stay in T2 with the junk ilevel from being forced to wear greens, not to mention how even if you do have the hp needed to survive hits you sure won't have the defense because not only are you missing the extra stats that epics offer but you're missing out in any better enchants because those are all life steal.

    The lack of life steal on actual armor is a very real issue, and having someone come and halfass theory craft by suggesting that the answer is to just wear pvp armor and blues doesn't help the issue. Because like I said, even if you do make it to that magical 8k+ number that you just pulled out of who knows where, no one will even WANT you in their group because your iLevel will be several hundred, if not thousand, behind everyone else.
  • bajornorbertbajornorbert Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    8WKXa4g.png

    There you go. 11.5k LS w/o feats. Feats will give you an additional 1855 LS and you can get an additional 5% LS from ToD boons, 5% from Aura (temptation), and another 5% (iirc) from T. Lifedrinker and you can also go Soulbinder for the soulpark LS increase which i can't remember how much it is exactly. That's 48.5% LS w/o counting the soulsparks. I'm definitely going temptation this mod.

    Edit: Forgot to select Toughness rank 3 before doing the screenshot. With that you also have 98.6k HP.

    Edit 2: 20%+ LS is easily achievable as a temp sw.

    10x rank 5s = 1400 LS
    Soul Reaping (feat) = 16.5 LS/lvl = 1155 LS @ lvl70
    Aura of Cruelty (feat) = 5%
    2nd DR boon = 400 LS
    4th ToD boon = 400 LS
    5th ToD boon = 3% LS
    Blue artifact MH = 471 LS
    Blue artifact OH = 286 LS
    Artifact set bonus = 394 LS
    4x Major LS kit = 800 LS
    Lesser Lifedrinker = 1%

    Total LS: 5306 LS + 9% = 13.265% + 9% = 22.265%
    Total Investment: < 1m AD

    If you skip the Major LS kits and the lifedrinker you'll still be at 19.265% and you total investment will be ~200k AD (84k RP).
  • crystal892fcrystal892f Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    20%+ LS is easily achievable as a temp sw.

    10x rank 5s = 1400 LS
    Soul Reaping (feat) = 16.5 LS/lvl = 1155 LS @ lvl70
    Aura of Cruelty (feat) = 5%
    2nd DR boon = 400 LS
    4th ToD boon = 400 LS
    5th ToD boon = 3% LS
    Blue artifact MH = 471 LS
    Blue artifact OH = 286 LS
    Artifact set bonus = 394 LS
    4x Major LS kit = 800 LS
    Lesser Lifedrinker = 1%

    Total LS: 5306 LS + 9% = 13.265% + 9% = 22.265%.
    Where are the second 9% coming from?
  • bajornorbertbajornorbert Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Where are the second 9% coming from?

    It's there. Aura + 5th ToD boon + L.Lifedrinker
  • candinho2candinho2 Member Posts: 550 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    8WKXa4g.png

    There you go. 11.5k LS w/o feats. Feats will give you an additional 1855 LS and you can get an additional 5% LS from ToD boons, 5% from Aura (temptation), and another 5% (iirc) from T. Lifedrinker and you can also go Soulbinder for the soulpark LS increase which i can't remember how much it is exactly. That's 48.5% LS w/o counting the soulsparks. I'm definitely going temptation this mod.

    Edit: Forgot to select Toughness rank 3 before doing the screenshot. With that you also have 98.6k HP.

    Edit 2: 20%+ LS is easily achievable as a temp sw.

    10x rank 5s = 1400 LS
    Soul Reaping (feat) = 16.5 LS/lvl = 1155 LS @ lvl70
    Aura of Cruelty (feat) = 5%
    2nd DR boon = 400 LS
    4th ToD boon = 400 LS
    5th ToD boon = 3% LS
    Blue artifact MH = 471 LS
    Blue artifact OH = 286 LS
    Artifact set bonus = 394 LS
    4x Major LS kit = 800 LS
    Lesser Lifedrinker = 1%

    Total LS: 5306 LS + 9% = 13.265% + 9% = 22.265%
    Total Investment: < 1m AD

    If you skip the Major LS kits and the lifedrinker you'll still be at 19.265% and you total investment will be ~200k AD (84k RP).

    Can you pls post the link to that site? i realy like that calc
  • crystal892fcrystal892f Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    It's there. Aura + 5th ToD boon + L.Lifedrinker
    Yes, Aura + 5th ToD boon + L.Lifedrinker are 9%. But in the equasion there are 2x 9%. So where are the second 9% coming from?
  • bajornorbertbajornorbert Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Yes, Aura + 5th ToD boon + L.Lifedrinker are 9%. But in the equasion there are 2x 9%. So where are the second 9% coming from?

    I've just carried over the first one. The 5306 LS is only 13.265%.
    candinho2 wrote: »
    Can you pls post the link to that site? i realy like that calc

    http://www.nwo-uncensored.com/mod6max.php
  • crystal892fcrystal892f Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I've just carried over the first one. The 5306 LS is only 13.265%.
    So 5306 LS = 13.265%? Okay, I was confused by the double mentioning of the 9%, then. Thanks for clarifying.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Exactly, what do you need more? All you have to do is walk around in a partial pvp set, the rest in blues and greens. Then stick your feats in some of the biggest waste of points like the chance for an extra 10*level (oh boy 700 life steal instead of a feat that's actually worth having). Toss on top that every enchant that can be life steal must be life steal. Oh and I forgot maxing out all the artifacts and arti weapons, then you get to a bare minimum of a stat that defines the entire build. Maybe after you go through the months of effort it takes to reach that part you can start doing the low end dungeons because no team is going to let you stay in T2 with the junk ilevel from being forced to wear greens, not to mention how even if you do have the hp needed to survive hits you sure won't have the defense because not only are you missing the extra stats that epics offer but you're missing out in any better enchants because those are all life steal.

    The lack of life steal on actual armor is a very real issue, and having someone come and halfass theory craft by suggesting that the answer is to just wear pvp armor and blues doesn't help the issue. Because like I said, even if you do make it to that magical 8k+ number that you just pulled out of who knows where, no one will even WANT you in their group because your iLevel will be several hundred, if not thousand, behind everyone else.

    thats a comment of someone without any idea or capability to inform himself or just try things out or to lazy to think --> Mr. "I crya river to get answers" from player who actually give you nub the "helping hand"
    forum is full of cryingpost from clueless PVE player, all classes, some even can´t do the "misk and boo quest" on their own, just crying and complaining, thats all, sry but this has to be said
    go PVP thats real pain for some classes atm, and these tears are easy to understand
    the rest will improve slowly as it is obviously intended, no one wants you to run endgamecontent without gear, setbonus and green weapons, so grind level up like allways
    btw. blue gear is even better than the best PVP gear you can buy in the store for honour and seals !
    did you think someone comes and gives you purple BIS-gear as a present?

    SB vamire sparks +0,05% LS per spark = 1,5%

    but all in all temp warlock will never ever be as effective as a DC, its a supporter maxing the chance to be successfull in these hard PVE dungeons and will be a good choice in my opinion in combination with DC.
    I specced from temp to fury in mod 5 because there was no need of heal at all, now things change a bit, i guess temp warlock is a good choice to have success in dungeon, in case of not having too much trouble with aggro from mobs and be onehittet all time?
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    You do realize how expensive the Greater BI set is, right?
    Not sure if 500k BI is worth the investment, all things considered.
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • denvalddenvald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    mjytresz wrote: »
    You do realize how expensive the Greater BI set is, right?
    Not sure if 500k BI is worth the investment, all things considered.

    I thought i dropped from kessels retreat as well, and that 250k BI was simply for those with horrible RNG...
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  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    denvald wrote: »
    I thought i dropped from kessels retreat as well, and that 250k BI was simply for those with horrible RNG...

    If it's anything like the drop rate for Black Ice Beholders, it might be faster to just farm up the Ice...
    Broken mechanics, broken class designs, lack of actual content, and over zealous, bronze-age moderation?

    Go Cryptic!
    PS - I quit.
  • thesageakpthesageakp Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    8wkxa4g.png

    there you go. 11.5k ls w/o feats. Feats will give you an additional 1855 ls and you can get an additional 5% ls from tod boons, 5% from aura (temptation), and another 5% (iirc) from t. Lifedrinker and you can also go soulbinder for the soulpark ls increase which i can't remember how much it is exactly. That's 48.5% ls w/o counting the soulsparks. I'm definitely going temptation this mod.

    Edit: Forgot to select toughness rank 3 before doing the screenshot. With that you also have 98.6k hp.

    Edit 2: 20%+ ls is easily achievable as a temp sw.

    10x rank 5s = 1400 ls
    soul reaping (feat) = 16.5 ls/lvl = 1155 ls @ lvl70
    aura of cruelty (feat) = 5%
    2nd dr boon = 400 ls
    4th tod boon = 400 ls
    5th tod boon = 3% ls
    blue artifact mh = 471 ls
    blue artifact oh = 286 ls
    artifact set bonus = 394 ls
    4x major ls kit = 800 ls
    lesser lifedrinker = 1%

    total ls: 5306 ls + 9% = 13.265% + 9% = 22.265%
    total investment: < 1m ad

    if you skip the major ls kits and the lifedrinker you'll still be at 19.265% and you total investment will be ~200k ad (84k rp).

    tch meanwhile templocks that were already at low gs were grade a screwed,with the change you can hardly survive mount hotenow if you cant proc alot of lifesteal. Nethermage armor has become a bane to my sw. I have shelfed it for mod 7, i cant buy different armor or survive level 61 content because of the f-ing lifesteal change... If you had 12k gs you were kicked in the nuts. My temp lock was neutered into oblivion and is unplayable at the moment.
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