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Why can't I dodge Hunter Ranger roots?
geministrike
Member Posts: 146 Bounty Hunter
Hello everybody,
I want to point out to HR roots. No matter how hard i dodge or dodge constantly, I get rooted anyways. Why can't I dodge HR roots, seriously? Is this intended or a bug? If this is intended, it is ridicilous because I cannot even move without using short immunity skills and dodging it is impossible. There is no defense against this and it is really senseless. The tool tip on the HR skills doesn't even mention something line "undodgeable" so I believe this is not intended. This skill is buggy and needs and urgent fix. Please watch the demonstrations I uploaded.
Here is a long demonstration by me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qre2oYHsyzc
Here is a demonstration video by Obsydian666;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0S76YX7Fqs
DO READ: As you can clearly see this topic is created to share opinions about HR roots not puking blames on other classes or skills. If you have concerns about other matters please do share them on other related topics or create your own as this topic is not the right place to do it. Thank you.
PLEASE USE YOUR READING SKILLS (IF YOU HAVE SOME) BEFORE POSTING OTHER CLASS RELATED MATERIAL.
I want to point out to HR roots. No matter how hard i dodge or dodge constantly, I get rooted anyways. Why can't I dodge HR roots, seriously? Is this intended or a bug? If this is intended, it is ridicilous because I cannot even move without using short immunity skills and dodging it is impossible. There is no defense against this and it is really senseless. The tool tip on the HR skills doesn't even mention something line "undodgeable" so I believe this is not intended. This skill is buggy and needs and urgent fix. Please watch the demonstrations I uploaded.
Here is a long demonstration by me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qre2oYHsyzc
Here is a demonstration video by Obsydian666;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0S76YX7Fqs
DO READ: As you can clearly see this topic is created to share opinions about HR roots not puking blames on other classes or skills. If you have concerns about other matters please do share them on other related topics or create your own as this topic is not the right place to do it. Thank you.
PLEASE USE YOUR READING SKILLS (IF YOU HAVE SOME) BEFORE POSTING OTHER CLASS RELATED MATERIAL.
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its hard indeed.
One possibility is the cc and the power's animation has different activation times. CC's activation time is most likely instant while Power's animation has a travel time. This causes an illusion that makes you think that you dodged it on right time but actually it was already too late. This applies to the daze of TR's shadow strike too. You will see a purple light heading toward the target but actually the target is already dazed right after you use the skill. If you try to proc Concussive strike with Cloud of steel, you will see the target actually gets dazed before the dagger even hits it. Same with CW's frozen/choke effect, there are times that you dodged it but still got frozen/choke at the beginning/ending of your dodge.
Another possibility is these cc effects are bugged or set to totally ignore dodge mechanic. Your best bet is send a bug report and see if they do anything about it.
However, it's funny how TR cries about something being broken.
b) Roots are not undodgeable, because when i use e.g. Constricting Arrow with HR, I don't get auto-root. Might be ITC, might be deflect, might be dodge, reasons might vary, but they are avoidable.
c) HR has a significant target lock-on. So if you dodge sideways, this might just not work. Dodging backwards out of range might, though.
d) in PvP, NW has quite a gratifying ping campensation magic gizmo working in the background - otherwise high pingers like me (180 at best times) would simply hit nothing at all. Still I do... less reliably, but i do. This also might be part of the reason of the discrepancy here...
GF's block can absolutely negate HR's root as long as it is fired from anywhere within 180 degree in front of the GF. If it is fired from behind the GF, GF will be rooted. That applies to all attacks from any other classes.
For me, Shadow strike always dazes target even if they dodged it (with the Dodge status popped up on their head). Of course, it does not work on GWF's unstoppable, TR's ItC or GF's blocking shield facing my TR.
Oh and please don't start pointing at our OP for playing a TR, we know TRs are the most overpowered but there are also some other ridiculous OP things that are just being ignored for now.
WTB Class Reroll please
they do not go throught cc immunity.
so as a trapper i cant CC gf while blocking, gwf while sprinting/unstoppable, tr in itc and then 100% sure i cant cc sw sprinting
I did not say it goes throught CC immunity? It just has delayed control and a very elaborate one since I get IMMUNE message and still get rooted once I stop holding shift button. I just don't like that I have to spend more of my stamina bar than I actually should.
WTB Class Reroll please
Having said that, Trapper is the Anti Tr, so I'm not sad about OP's post, but happy.
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Then there's my SW, against certain types of TR she can kill them also, i got told to stop using Potions Lmao, but i wasn't using any soulbinder with regeneration is OP when u time dots and dodges.
Honestly tr brah/person who posted this, there are counters, a balanced team in pvp will be able to mix and match who u go against and who u can kill and cant kill. Yeah theres the Odd 20-25k character that can kill a entire team. but guess what, he or she can only control 1 node.
unless that's some hidden ability/feat i haven't seen on my HR
seems bugged no?
What's broken is broken. Just as certain aspects of TRs are broken, so are some aspects of other classes and none of these serve in any relevance to each other. GWFs and SWs have problems with TR SE being probably impossible (practically possible in certain, unlikely scenarios, but in all practicality, the probable chance of it happening is slim in real life) to dodge.
I've seen what the forums were like when Shocking Execution was undodgeable to EVERYONE before the changes. I've also seen the forums when all the other, past HR powers such as Constricting Arrow or any powers that applied the old "rubberband" version of Grasping Roots was also undodgeable. I've seen the whines go through the roof from GWFs and TRs complaining how the "rubberband" Grasping Roots ignored CC immunities and just applied itself on any instance, being impossible to dodge in the first place, as well as the same bullcrap argument coming from HR players that it should be excused since it's the only way they have to fight against mod2 GWFs and TRs.
History repeats itself, sirs, and apparently so does the same lame sentiments along with it. Nothing should be unmitigated in PvP, nothing should be undodgeable in PvP, and nothing should be inevitable in PvP. Both the current forum's largest whiner-base, the GWFs and SWs are victims of it, and from their point of view it's actually a just complaint. They shouldn't be bombarded with powers they cannot dodge or evade. The same holds for unmitigated damage -- as both GFs and GWFs are victims of a barrage of hard-hitting attacks from TRs that cut through armor class/defense/DR like butter.
Quit being petty and drop the double standard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0S76YX7Fqs&feature=youtu.be
...and on top of that, they're adding a daze. So now, even CWs won't be able to do anything to fight back when they're rooted.
.Suicide Squad.
Obsydian666, can I have your permission to put the video on the topic?