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Stop crapping on Clerics and HEAL yourself already
blackmonalisa
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It's one thing that you run off half-prepared into situations, throwing everyone in the party into the midst of mob madness...not just once, not twice but every single time. Then you have the audacity to scream and throw a fit that you died because the cleric didn't heal you? Are you for real?
Just because there is a Cleric in your party, does not mean you suddenly get to become immortally stupid. If mobs are on you, chances are they are on the cleric too. Allow the cleric the chance to keep themselves alive so they can actually get to you and heal you. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and take a dayum potion. It's not that hard of a concept to understand!
And if you are still complaining ask yourself the following questions
1. what would I have done if the cleric wasn't there?
2. Do I realize that the cleric is not the messiah?
3. Am I aware that clerics do other sorta amazing things aside from healing?
Just because there is a Cleric in your party, does not mean you suddenly get to become immortally stupid. If mobs are on you, chances are they are on the cleric too. Allow the cleric the chance to keep themselves alive so they can actually get to you and heal you. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and take a dayum potion. It's not that hard of a concept to understand!
And if you are still complaining ask yourself the following questions
1. what would I have done if the cleric wasn't there?
2. Do I realize that the cleric is not the messiah?
3. Am I aware that clerics do other sorta amazing things aside from healing?
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1) Solo everything, needs no healing
2) Thinks he can solo everything, needs healing
If someone runs off, it's his business, end of story.
If someone behaves badly, put him on ignore, end of story. Out of sight, out of mind.
Amen. totally agreee with wimpazoid. But in this case , judging by the wordage. Id say this guy needs to practice his heals more and stop trying to dps the monsters and focus on the healing. you know, the main purpose of a claric.
this !!!! i even pulled mobs with split shot, if i am ahead of others. sometimes soulforged saves me when they jump all at me, but who cares i immediately become invsible with forest ghost a then others already damaging.
if someone insult you that you dont healing him, dont play with him. there are droves of players that dont need healing and you can play your cleric as you want. dps, buff, debuff or healing, no matter
Now that is hilarious.
If you need a cleric's healing in current endgame, then it's YOU who has made mistakes building your character.
I am a Righteous DO, so yes I do dps and buffs/debuffs. And I do it really well. When I do my job correctly there isn't a need to throw heals. I can and do hold my own and support others quite well, thank you very much. What I won't do is chase after that one player who just can not wait for the rest of the party and tries to solo it themselves. I've been seeing this with more frequency lately. Am I going to chase after someone and doesn't care about the rest the party, or am I staying with the rest of the party increasing all of our chances of living? Not that hard to figure out really.
And for the love of whatever you pray to, STOP telling people how to play their class/game. I play several classes and know their mechanics...and yet you don't see me telling people how to play them.
Sorry, I guess I assumed the staple healy-thingy class was supposed to heal all the things.
Since, y'know, if I wanted a DPS I'd invite a CW.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
I've seen good dps clerics destroy CW's since the DC changes. Blew my mind when I first came back. DC's can do a lot of dps while buffing and debuffing now. And they still provide some healing.
Why would you want a worse DPS?
You were wrong. If they wanted DCs to heal everyone, targeting and finding your group members would be much easier. They wouldn't have taken the heals out of Astral Shield and Hallowed Ground. If you want healed, stay in melee range.
Might as well ask why I want good class design and balance.
Need debuffs? DC.
Need DPS? DC.
Need an immortal tank? DC.
Need heals? DC.
Need coffee? DC.
Car broke down? DC.
Obviously you're all begging Cryptic to rebalance DC.
I didn't realize DCs have a 2m leash on heals.
I'm obviously doing something wrong with my DC.
Go Cryptic!
PS - I quit.
When I play my Scoundrel TR in PVP, I get yelled at for not being Permastealth and tanking nodes.
When I play my GF, I get yelled at for not using KV in groups, where everyone keeps standing in Garakas' red circles.
When I play my MoF CW, I get yelled at for not doing as much damage, as the Spellstorm Mage, ignoring my smolder/feat buffs for the whole team.
Your best solution is to look for a good guild, and keep doing things only with them. And in situations where this is not possible, like Tiamat, put them on ignore and do your thing.
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I only slot healing spells (divine glow heals, but is slotted for the buff/debuff), when I run with newbies or bad PuGs.
A good dmg/buff/debuff DC can be paingiver, buff group dps for up to 100% and heal some. ATM DC is the strongest class for PvE imo.
My CW has 22k GS and my DC 19,5k. The CW does solid dmg, CC and debuffs. Guess who is requested, if there is not allready a DC in the group, the DC.
BTW DC cant outheal onehits, everything else, your lifesteal should take care of.
One of the most refreshing things about this game is the way that any class can self-heal in most circumstances. It would be a real shame if we are pushed towards that old skool holy trinity thing.
Mr Dweeb is a clueless DPSer, he thinks tagging every mob in the entire dungeon is a cool thing to do, hey it means one big fight and the dungeon is done quicker right. The party has a tank, so it isn't as if he should get attacked, if he does then 'obviously' the tank isn't doing his job right.... so it is fine to throw a teenage hissyfit at the tank and try and get him kicked from the party
He thinks he doesn't have to move out of those red areas, they only do damage and healing any damage is what the party took a cleric along for. If his health even gets low then 'obviously' the cleric isn't doing their job right.... so it is fine to throw a teenage hissyfit at the cleric and try and get him kicked from the party
Thankfully you tend only to find Mr Dweeb in PUG's (And again, from my experience there are less in neverwinter than I've found elsewhere). Join a guild, where possible run with your guild... if you have a decent guild, then you may never meet Mr Dweeb
Personally..... those that act like an idiot, I'll just let them die and focus on helping those who are helping get through the content rather than those making the content harder than it needs to be.... I just ignore the QQing
But as said above, this isn't a trinity game, so there IS much less of it here.
if you wanted dps you'd rather take a rogue or a fury sw
cw and dps DC are about the same dps wise currently. You are just tradeing control (which most cw's dont use) vs heals and debuffs. I'll take the DC 10/10 times.
I agree with you on everything except this. My DC is totally the messiah, sent to Toril to spread Corellon Larethian's love to all. ;P
1) i personally feel obligated to heal GF if he uses Knight's Valor (especially in Epic LoL or SoT)
2) i don't use all 3 encounter slots so I keep Bastion of H. or Healing word for non-divinity use only (the both give high amount of AP too)
3) Divine glow heals pretty well if you are Righteous path with high damage (best for PVE IMO)
4) Astral Seal works pretty well on bosses and elites
5) Sunburst divinity is a great way to heal,DoT and build empowered stacks
No.
Never.
Not within the length and strength of my arm will the world be this way.
I make changes with my DC main when running dungeons or the Herald-go-round...but for the most part, those changes emphasize buff/debuff over direct damage. Only if I see someone in direct peril will I bother with healing, and even then, most times the problem solves itself. I can't count how many times I see some **** DC drop the big yellow daily only to have the fight end two seconds later because everyone else's dps is buffed. Maybe in the bossest of boss fights...but nowhere else are such sacrifices for the party necessary. If you can't play your toon and survive, maybe it's YOUR problem, and not the clerics'. If your GF is that dependent on the DC for support, I'm thinking you need to reconsider your options.
Oh, and *respec.