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  • ortzhyortzhy Member Posts: 1,103 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    mh0ram wrote: »
    Learn to adapt, they are constantly changing and tweaking classes. Either learn to adapt and survive, or go play another game.

    no dude, mostly they are destroying perfectly good builds and we need crappy op skills to be able to play our class. Take GWF SM a perfectly viable choice 1 year ago, now all skills are buggy as hell or doing nothing. Stuns are not working, immunity only from time to time gap closers that are getting stuck in maps, dailies that cant hit anything, no gap closers and no resistances... without intimidation that class is 0.
    In my book that kind of thing is a poorly done job and a scam for grabbing money, cause you see you need with every patch a new set of items/enchantments...
  • hypervoreianhypervoreian Member Posts: 1,036 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    Yes but lashing blade is a daily. As a Gwf you also have dailies which deliver 61015 damage.

    Lashing blade is an encounter!!!!!!!
  • humorisbenefithumorisbenefit Member Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Lashing blade is an encounter!!!!!!!
    Call it what ever you want, Im CW and before mod5 changes I got fun PvP -matches had fun wins and losses... but now something CC you, then stun and DPS down or one hit from 36K hitpoints and same again.

    Well, CW was OP and nerfed, GWF was OP nerfed, HR is still outoffline, but its OK because TR got all nerfed powers to himself.

    Happy days for TR, but sad day for .... you can add here your feelings about "blashink plates, what is an encounter", :confused: .
  • barq3tbarq3t Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 165 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    fedur wrote: »
    24.5k GWF with Perfect Barkshield

    get Soulforged
  • fedurfedur Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    barq3t wrote: »
    get Soulforged

    Without perfect barkshield this hit will be much harder. Still 1 shot.
    25.2k GWF Sentinel Half-Orc Fedur.@fedur
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  • zxornzxorn Member Posts: 160 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    I just refuse to play my GWF right now. Stripped him of his enchants. Problem solved.
  • grommelingrommelin Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    zxorn wrote: »
    I just refuse to play my GWF right now. Stripped him of his enchants. Problem solved.

    Well, I quit allready. No meaning join broken PvP TR´s can enjoy alone.

    After they fix some TR powers maybe players come back...maybe it is better leave stinky areas and get freash air.
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  • grommelingrommelin Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ortzhy wrote: »
    ha.. well the TRs defending this issue said: Install a surround sound audio system so you can hear a tr walk :)) Another thing: it seems that on high end systems the stealth leaks a small amount of shadow that can be traced. Ohh and last thing: you would better have the latency advantage.

    So if you dont have any of those is clear that you lack the "skills" to understand how amazing they are :p

    huhuuu, moderators clean up this very quickly.

    TR issue seems to be VERY bad for players. Well I dont need play game any more because [Author REMOVED]
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Lashing Blade is not the problem...

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  • dante126pldante126pl Banned Users Posts: 257 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    zvieris wrote: »
    Lashing Blade is not the problem...

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    32k from dazing strike oO
  • mafoi1515mafoi1515 Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dante126pl wrote: »
    32k from dazing strike oO
    IM TR and its still unfair that I must run near you DAZE and use 1 -3 mouse click to slay and you still have two seconds time to hit me.(OFC you are dazed stunned smoked all te time but run away when you see me!!!)

    I want more ranged encounters so I can use powers from greater range like CW´s what are OP in PvP, they can even hit few time before I slay them and its not fair.

    Give some extra range for TR, we are soo quishy now with two seconds visibility.
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dante126pl wrote: »
    32k from dazing strike oO

    I had GWF mark on me but that's still insane. The reason is first strike + guaranteed crit + huge crit severity. Those need to be properly adjusted. 33k CC encounters post mitigation do not belong in this game.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    zvieris wrote: »
    I had GWF mark on me but that's still insane. The reason is first strike + guaranteed crit + huge crit severity. Those need to be properly adjusted. 33k CC encounters post mitigation do not belong in this game.

    At 20k GS, 6k power and a full-blown Executioner build a First Strike buffed DS hits for around 20~22k in PvP, 25~26k in PvE.

    If you're gonna bash something, at least have the decency to test it out with someone else in a 1vs1 without a 3rd party involved.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    At 20k GS, 6k power and a full-blown Executioner build a First Strike buffed DS hits for around 20~22k in PvP, 25~26k in PvE.

    If you're gonna bash something, at least have the decency to test it out with someone else in a 1vs1 without a 3rd party involved.

    Does it change the fact that it hits for 55!! bloody k in pvp.. no it doesent(even if per see you are right in the testing part).
    Tr might be ok to some Trs but we can easely see that majority is kinda tired of them atm.

    The major problem is that they are so OP that people actually stop pvping all together.
    I am reluctant to enter a domination myself and when i see 3 tr 2 dc on the other team (yea its getting more and more the the trolling partys at least 2 tr 2 dc is seen very often by myself) I dont even leave the rezz unless I am in a very good party myself.

    Soon pvp domination will be wasteland with only tr and dc and some struggling nabs that needs the dailys done.
    I have no wish for Trs to become non valid in PVE but if they dont do something very soon this game will suffer from players leaving (allready have to some extent)...

    One other thing that I feel is very bothersome is that you get destroyed by far far less geared Trs that is obviously not very skilled but thanks to extreamly easy overpowered abilitys you are either one shotted or just cced until death.
    I dont have any problems with a 22k Tr killing my 20+ characters but i really find it annoying when i inspect the little ******* that killed me so easy and find that he is 14-16 gs and still took me out in seconds....
  • zvieriszvieris Member Posts: 1,261 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    At 20k GS, 6k power and a full-blown Executioner build a First Strike buffed DS hits for around 20~22k in PvP, 25~26k in PvE.

    If you're gonna bash something, at least have the decency to test it out with someone else in a 1vs1 without a 3rd party involved.

    Because +8% damage from GWF mark is such a HUGE difference, right? The TR had 24k GS, mind you.
  • dragoness10dragoness10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    marnival wrote: »
    I dont have any problems with a 22k Tr killing my 20+ characters but i really find it annoying when i inspect the little ******* that killed me so easy and find that he is 14-16 gs and still took me out in seconds....

    If that was me - sorry. I hit Shift a lot. I hit TAB when I can since I do not believe Smoke Bomb is " a cure all for PvP and PvE". I've worked hard to ensure it's not just my GS that "carries me to be effective". I've taken boons that compliment the type of build I am trying to do, and that compliment the weapon/ armor enchants I use. I practiced doing more than button mashing so that I can hit effective combinations.

    Yeah, I was one of those people out there memorizing X Y X left button right button X for the "FINISH HIM!!!" in Mortal Kombat. It's the same effectiveness here.

    So I am not 20K GS TR. Whoop a doo. GS doesn't matter as much as being able to effectively play the type of class that suits your play style best. That takes practice, not $$$.
    " I tried to figure out the enigma that was you, and then I realized mastering Wild Magic was easier." - Old Wizard in Waterdeep

    "Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."

    "Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    If that was me - sorry. I hit Shift a lot. I hit TAB when I can since I do not believe Smoke Bomb is " a cure all for PvP and PvE". I've worked hard to ensure it's not just my GS that "carries me to be effective". I've taken boons that compliment the type of build I am trying to do, and that compliment the weapon/ armor enchants I use. I practiced doing more than button mashing so that I can hit effective combinations.

    Yeah, I was one of those people out there memorizing X Y X left button right button X for the "FINISH HIM!!!" in Mortal Kombat. It's the same effectiveness here.

    So I am not 20K GS TR. Whoop a doo. GS doesn't matter as much as being able to effectively play the type of class that suits your play style best. That takes practice, not $$$.

    If written with Irony its perfectly fine if not its a joke more or less.

    Most peeps if not all with gs 20+ that has 1000+ pvp matches and played other pvp games knows what boons gear to pick for their build/class and not being a complete moron you know what encounters/powers to use as this is a very basic simple combat system where very little skill is involved compared to many other games out there.

    I myself come from Age of Conan where you with some classes has 50+ hot buttons to keep track of in combat + a moving hit system where you die if you stand still for more then 1 sec.

    If you try to explain how 14kgs kills other classes with 20kgs + with ease with your game *knowladge* I can not take you very seriously....
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