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[PvP] DC ridiculously OP

x1101011xx1101011x Member Posts: 87 Arc User
edited December 2014 in PvE Discussion
DCs are *SO* OP right now that a 14k DC with 32k HP can just sit in an empowered astral shield and get one-shot by a TR.
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  • velynnavelynna Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    :)

    Also one-shot by CWs
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yeah i noticed how some stuff now gets through the empowered AS easily at 3 stacks.
    I liked the empowered AS mechanic cause it could make you quite tanky but at the same time could be "countered" CCing the DC in between Empowered AS.

    Ninja nerf? IDK.

    I think DPS DC needs a tone down but tank DCs not that much. I'll test some more.
  • mat44444mat44444 Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Hi

    Well just thank all the people who posted saying how awfully OP DC's were/are - just like you are implying about TR's even though they are mot the only class hitting for that damage in one shot

    How fair you all are
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Sometimes I feel like all those geared DCs in PvP now are like pillows. People prone, stun and throw them away with no effect.
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  • lucifron44lucifron44 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    tarftgm wrote:
    DPS cleric has:

    - More damage than Warlocks and CW's
    - More CC than CW's
    - More survivability than most classes.

    Can someone explain the logic here? I'm truly lost.
    No class beats a DPS cleric in an 1v1, none. (TR loses with the 2-sec visiblity on preview).
    This isn't an attempt at a nerf thread or any flaming, I'm just completely baffled that a CLERIC has become this way...

    Let's call it the second-best class. But yes the mod5 DC has some strong sides that should not be the strong sides of a DC but should belong to other classes. Survivability makes sense, but DPS, cc, that is not what DnD says. It's not balanced.
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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    lucifron44 wrote: »
    Survivability makes sense, but DPS, cc, that is not what DnD says.

    Please cite your sources. I'd accuse you of misinformation but I'm not familiar with 5E rules. However based on rules before 5E you'd be dead wrong.
  • nobodyz91nobodyz91 Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_abhbLbX4&feature=youtu.be

    u can look at this video and see how dc are strong.
  • tsokushintsokushin Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    nobodyz91 wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF_abhbLbX4&feature=youtu.be

    u can look at this video and see how dc are strong.

    As it was discussed in the thread that this video was originally posted in, that Cleric is using an already reported Bug.

    If he were not exploiting the bug, the CW would've killed him easily.
  • generalcolegeneralcole Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    im a 19k+ cw and a never 1shotted anybody,but i easly get 1 shot from a a 13k TR with Lasching Blade....-.- i've left the game utill they don't solve this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>..the game is ridicule atm.
  • fanskapet666fanskapet666 Member Posts: 43
    edited December 2014
    generalcole wrote: »
    im a 19k+ cw and a never 1shotted anybody,but i easly get 1 shot from a a 13k TR with Lasching Blade....-.- i've left the game utill they don't solve this <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>..the game is ridicule atm.

    If u specc for pve and use the same encounters as in pve, this might happen.
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  • casewoodshadowcasewoodshadow Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 25 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I was in GG last night on my DC and got hit with a Shocking Execution for over 42k damage while I was at full health. I know my DC isn't as highly geared compared to some of the top players (mostly rank 8's and 9's) but with 18% tenacity, 38.5% DR, full hit points (30k), no debuffs on me and not in hallowed ground, that amount of burst damage for any class is a bit ridiculous. I have a TR too and remember getting some big hits on SE in the past when people were already low on hit points but then 25k of a 30k hit is irrelevant when your victim only had 5k hit points left anyway.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    casewoodshadow wrote: »
    I was in GG last night on my DC and got hit with a Shocking Execution for over 42k damage while I was at full health. I know my DC isn't as highly geared compared to some of the top players (mostly rank 8's and 9's) but with 18% tenacity, 38.5% DR, full hit points (30k), no debuffs on me and not in hallowed ground, that amount of burst damage for any class is a bit ridiculous. I have a TR too and remember getting some big hits on SE in the past when people were already low on hit points but then 25k of a 30k hit is irrelevant when your victim only had 5k hit points left anyway.

    fun fact: people complained about it too
  • ratattacksratattacks Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    42k shocking , 30k lashing?
    Must be a l2p issue for sure !

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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    ratattacks wrote: »
    42k shocking , 30k lashing?
    Must be a l2p issue for sure !

    i kinda agree but this is what we get
    30k intimidation
    25k ice rays
    40k anvil of doom
    actually 40k ibs is already a thing, i m curious to see after the buffs.

    so to me it's clear that the damage flying around is overall too high.
    is it tr fault? no they just joined the bandwagon.
    is it fun to be hit by that? no, its not fun tr cw gwf gf i do not care.

    and to be back on topic: it's not even fun to not being able to kill them dcs with those damages and being slowed killed (or just being brought to 15% hp by a dot )
  • hefisdohefisdo Member Posts: 709 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    lucifron44 wrote: »
    Survivability makes sense, but DPS, cc, that is not what DnD says.

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    Controllers focus on affecting multiple targets at once, either damaging or debuffing them, or altering the battlefield's terrain. Some classes, such as Wizards and Invokers, are focused towards ranged combat, while Druids can specialize in ranged or melee combat.
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  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Creating a thread that says "this class can do this much damage and heal this much" and saying it's OP and leaving it at that is not what we consider to be a valid balance discussion.

    How much and in what direction should those changes be made? Without that information, the thread boils down to a "baww, my class can't beat this class, NERF THEM!!" thread--something we don't allow.
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