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Refining party !

anatas07anatas07 Member Posts: 164 Bounty Hunter
edited September 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
Have anyone else noticed a slightly increase chance of failing when upgrading enchants ?
I surely did ... preservation wards are going down the drain like never before. I mean consuming 10-20 preservation wards to get a rank 6 to rank 7 is not a way to go ...
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  • theskymovestheskymoves Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Yes, I noticed the same thing! I went through 35 preservation wards upgrading five rank 6 Radiants to R7. (It was so frustrating, I gave up on the whole double refinement thing and sold all my hoarded refining stuff on the AH... made almost 4 million AD, so I guess RNG!fail has a silver lining.)
  • dreamhuntressxdreamhuntressx Member Posts: 453 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Reading the title, I thought it was an event to gather ppl, so they could click the same boring window together, over and over and over, just for a change...
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  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    People have always had issues with the crit chance, event on or not.
  • namelesshero347namelesshero347 Member Posts: 2,109 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I think its just the RNG. It has always been streaky. There I've hit two R7/R8 in a row from the start without losing a Pward, and I've lost entire stacks of Pwards failing to do an R6. Go figure
  • pandapaulpandapaul Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 424 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    it seems abit sus to be honest.. when I was upgrading my belt to legendary it took 42 Preservation Wards.. that's at a 10% chance.. I mean I think its very doubtful that's RNG bad luck..
  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It's just RNG, usually I fail anything between 30-45 pwards for every r10/artifact or whatever I'm upgrading, during this event I didn't spend more than 3 pward for the items that I upgraded (2 legendary artifacts more for the collection, another legendary belt, 1 legendary weapon and some minor stuff).
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  • t8xt8x Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    When the refining weekend started I refined 3 Rank 6 black ice enchantments into ranks 7. I didn't have to use any preservation wards.
  • mehguy138mehguy138 Member Posts: 1,803 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Works fine for me, was upgrading lots of R6s, hadn't failed more then 5 times in a row. It took me 1-3 tries to upgrade them mostly, a lot less then usual. I think this is just RNG, I used to fail 27 times in a row upgrading R5 half a year ago.
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  • clericalistclericalist Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Ran out of coalescents, so I decided to try my luck in upgrading my weapon enchantment with a preservation ward and I got it with the first try :o
  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    clericalist wrote: »
    Ran out of coalescents, so I decided to try my luck in upgrading my weapon enchantment with a preservation ward and I got it with the first try :o

    Nice story :)


    Of course coals are 480K on AH to 6K for pres wards so selling the pres and buying the coal would work too....
  • lycragirllycragirl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 53
    edited September 2014
    mehguy138 wrote: »
    Works fine for me, was upgrading lots of R6s, hadn't failed more then 5 times in a row. It took me 1-3 tries to upgrade them mostly, a lot less then usual. I think this is just RNG, I used to fail 27 times in a row upgrading R5 half a year ago.

    Same here. The dice usually hate me, but I've actually succeeded on the first try this weekend and only had 3 or 4 fails in a row at any one time.
  • urkmockingjayurkmockingjay Member Posts: 47
    edited September 2014
    All I did was refine my waters and my lantern from rank one to 30, then upgrade them

    Used preservation wards as a just in case.

    Both upgraded to blue on 1st try.

    Much happiness ensued on my part.

    I'm still a starting CW, and haven't amassed a lot of refining stuff, but to get up to two blue artifacts has me pleased. To top it off the lantern dropped for me way back when i was running orc assault, and I forgot I had put it into the bank until this morning.

    All in all I'm ok. I think I have enough stuff to try to turn one of may arp from rank 6 to rank 7.

    Not even near ready to afford upgrading my lesser to a normal wep or armor enchant.
  • healaryhealary Member Posts: 600 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    OP, it is definitely not only you. I just used 23 bound green wards I got from daily invocation to do the SAME rank 6 to rank 7 upgrade you mentioned and all failed. Seeing I ran out of bound wards, I had to use my unbound ones and guess what? The RNG came back to normal. I did the upgrade successfully in 4 attempts.

    Given the 25% success rate, it is unrealistically bad luck to fail 23 consecutive times, I came to the forum and prepared to post my question about free (bound) wards vs zen shop wards but only to find OP has already beaten me to it first.

    Correction: It was a rank 7 to rank 8 upgrade, not rank 6 to rank 7.
  • nurmoodnurmood Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I suceeded nearly evry time upgrading my Artifacts except for 3 times. Upgraded 7 to epic and like 12 to rare. Guess im just lucky and you havent been
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Just took 26 Preservation wards to upgrade a Lesser Dragon horde enchantment at 20% , that is the first time I have ever used that many for one upgrade so it seems that either I have been lucky so far or the failure rate has been increased somewhat despite still showing 20% , no way I'm buying that 20% chance to pass fails 26 times in a row.
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  • mconosrepmconosrep Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    Just took 26 Preservation wards to upgrade a Lesser Dragon horde enchantment at 20% , that is the first time I have ever used that many for one upgrade so it seems that either I have been lucky so far or the failure rate has been increased somewhat despite still showing 20% , no way I'm buying that 20% chance to pass fails 26 times in a row.

    That is not totally out there there actually: (1/5)*(4/5)^26 ~ 0.06% or once for every 1600 people trying this.
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