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Kicked & Ignored, just for being a conqueror

aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
edited September 2014 in The Militia Barracks
If this is what's happening when you do LoL, then... !@#$%^&*() this thing and the protectors and the shoved "turtle" style. I refuse to respec. I am forced (by the people) to play turtle and now the want debuff too... :/ what do you think?
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Im going to assume you joined a non legit run? I dont ask, dont care what people run,, nor do I care about your gear score. If you know you can run it, good enough by me.

    Lots of people in this game , demand certain builds, for the sole purpose of speed running, alot of those same people will use whatever newest exploit comes down the pike, they also have little room for the central aspect of most games.. that is "fun".

    Join legit, have a good attitude.. and people dont care.

    You can run any DD, with any class composition , with any builds you want. End of story.
  • lvl99looterlvl99looter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 682 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    aiulian wrote: »
    If this is what's happening when you do LoL, then... !@#$%^&*() this thing and the protectors and the shoved "turtle" style. I refuse to respec. I am forced (by the people) to play turtle and now the want debuff too... :/ what do you think?

    Sounds like you just ran into some nubs. You can still tank while Conq'ing.
  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Yes I agree with you but... I just hope this doesn't becomes a habit for most of the people out there...
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    silverkelt wrote: »
    Im going to assume you joined a non legit run? I dont ask, dont care what people run,, nor do I care about your gear score. If you know you can run it, good enough by me.

    Lots of people in this game , demand certain builds, for the sole purpose of speed running, alot of those same people will use whatever newest exploit comes down the pike, they also have little room for the central aspect of most games.. that is "fun".

    Join legit, have a good attitude.. and people dont care.

    You can run any DD, with any class composition , with any builds you want. End of story.

    Honestly first 4 people to join up with you and go is more fun anyways.
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Put 10 points into Protector and a Conqueror is hardly any softer than a Protector and equal to a Tactician. You can still quite easily run KV and that makes up for the Protector capstone.

    And yeah, join Legit. Composition means jack. 3 HRs in VT. No CWs in VT. TRs in CN. Does not matter.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • lewel555lewel555 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    aiulian wrote: »
    I refuse to respec. I am forced (by the people) to play turtle

    They rule only if you do what they say. Now as for NW_Legit_community people, well it already happened that one guy of this channel asked the group about their powers, rotations, and started criticizing everything in the builds. Yunno, the kind of guy very assertive. So, I would not rate them any higher than the average random PUG. The only guaranteed thing is the party won't exploit the glitches of the said dungeon.
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    lewel555 wrote: »
    They rule only if you do what they say. Now as for NW_Legit_community people, well it already happened that one guy of this channel asked the group about their powers, rotations, and started criticizing everything in the builds. Yunno, the kind of guy very assertive. So, I would not rate them any higher than the average random PUG. The only guaranteed thing is the party won't exploit the glitches of the said dungeon.

    There may be one or two numpties on Legit, but for the most part they are good folks.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Nobody tells you what to or how to play your character. A Conq has the tools to tank and buff
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  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    1. I run KV and everything else just because people are like where is my KV?

    2. I have 10 points in protector

    3. I ll think about Legit
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I use IF and my party doesn't even acknowledge it most the time, its still a race to finish so I will change my encounters accordingly to what our party strengths are.

    If we got rockem sockem robot DPS, Ill buff them more. If we have really poor DPS, that stand in red areas and die.... I'll go DPS survival as I will be partially soloing stuff. Sometimes I'll try to save them with KV, but if they are bad they are killing you faster....
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  • xd108xxd108x Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    That sux :( I think you can be a tank in a party ok enough with conquerer spec, I certainly wouldn't judge so fast anyway. On a side note that is potentially worse than people who insist we use Knights Valour and Into the Fray, I mean I have had one or two people tell me something along the lines of "Do you job tank...knights valour" etc. To those people I say screw you, we do not play GF to follow you around while you mindlessly pull things just so to satisfy you being getting the "best damage"...and just cos we use Knights Valour it does not mean it is ok for you to do so...in fact I usually turn it off just before people charge in when they do that and watch them die :O
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    aiulian wrote: »
    1. I run KV and everything else just because people are like where is my KV?

    2. I have 10 points in protector

    3. I ll think about Legit

    Then I'd quite frankly tell them to eff off because they clearly know nothing about a GF.

    With that build plus KV and ITF (i'd assume) you were already providing them with some sweet buffs.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ITF was a must in my build since M3. with 41% AP gain + ITF :))
  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    ripyourlipsoff wrote: »
    I use IF and my party doesn't even acknowledge it most the time, its still a race to finish so I will change my encounters accordingly to what our party strengths are.

    If we got rockem sockem robot DPS, Ill buff them more. If we have really poor DPS, that stand in red areas and die.... I'll go DPS survival as I will be partially soloing stuff. Sometimes I'll try to save them with KV, but if they are bad they are killing you faster....

    I agree most of the time people just run like hell... and your ITF barely hits 1 of them. BTW wait until the next patch where the KV will respect LoS and have a limit of 150 ft... And especially GWFs are just nuts... add bath for everyone and bang one shot through KV for the GF...
  • schweifer1982schweifer1982 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,662 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    aiulian wrote: »
    If this is what's happening when you do LoL, then... !@#$%^&*() this thing and the protectors and the shoved "turtle" style. I refuse to respec. I am forced (by the people) to play turtle and now the want debuff too... :/ what do you think?

    Mybe you have done 1/4 dmg of the CW and they noticed it and say man GF cant have such big dmg i am sure he is not a Protector lets kik him :)

    Any way Protector have no advantage ower conq.

    Both can have 60k hp and take the half dmg from bad player how stay in red.

    Both can buff they pt members DPS both can hold agro aganst a powerfull agro generator "so called CW".

    So i dont see why ?
    100 % sure they are idiots!
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  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    I didn t even entered in LoL they asked before they qued...
  • loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    At this point it's really only a matter of playstyle what path you choose, because ITF and KV are that good and the difference in effectivity is marginal. Conq will get you a bit more personal damage, Tactitian more APs + ITF buff, Protector more DR%, KV buff.

    You can even do that cheesy perma-block, KV, ITF, Enforced Thread rotation with a Conq, no biggie. I currently run a Conq spec, because it gets the PVP campaign completed faster and have little trouble. I would even choose Tactitian before Protector.

    The general problem with KV is: People are getting lazy and don't adjust to the fact you suck up 50% damage for them. They think they can rush into mobs without downside, but if I'm under 25% health because the group can't stay out of the red I'll drop KV and suddenly the CW standing in the middle of everything dies a gruesome death and asks himself why.
    I'm not willing to spend extra injury kits because of other peoples stupidity.
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Yeah, OP, try Legit.

    Case in point, last night, people were asking for a GF for last boss CN to queue. Queued my Conq- they were happy to see me, and I got a nice welcome. Went in, turned on KV and spammed Into The Fray, spammed my mark and whacked away with Anvil. Win. No muss, no fuss, boss dead, everyone happy.

    /lfg PUGs can erode the soul.
  • tantivetyrelltantivetyrell Member Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Sorry Op, you just queued with idiots. In fact some times a conqueror spec is preferable because it can bring meaningful damage to the group...and some mobs need to be killed.

    Ofcourse using knights valor as a conqueror is very dangerous at times, it requires smart shield management and positioning...so you don't get knocked away and suddenly one shotted by a red circle that hit everyone at the same time. Villian's menace CC immunity is blessing a times.
  • demiurge1313demiurge1313 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Hi guys, I was thinking of starting a GF and since I am new to the class can someone explain the difference to me between the conqueror, protector, tactician builds you guys are talking about?

    Also what build is best for someone that wants to do both pve and pvp well.

    Lastly, any guides for a new GF?

    Thanks
  • aiulianaiulian Member Posts: 248 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    demiurge1313 wrote: »
    Hi guys, I was thinking of starting a GF and since I am new to the class can someone explain the difference to me between the conqueror, protector, tactician builds you guys are talking about?

    Also what build is best for someone that wants to do both pve and pvp well.

    Lastly, any guides for a new GF?

    Thanks

    Post a new thread, this way you will get more answers.
  • demiurge1313demiurge1313 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    aiulian wrote: »
    Post a new thread, this way you will get more answers.

    I can't start a new thread, only reply to an existing one. So I will repeat:
    Hi guys, I was thinking of starting a GF and since I am new to the class can someone explain the difference to me between the conqueror, protector, tactician builds you guys are talking about?

    Also what build is best for someone that wants to do both pve and pvp well.

    Lastly, any guides for a new GF?

    Thanks
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    demiurge1313 wrote: »
    I can't start a new thread, only reply to an existing one. So I will repeat:
    Hi guys, I was thinking of starting a GF and since I am new to the class can someone explain the difference to me between the conqueror, protector, tactician builds you guys are talking about?

    Also what build is best for someone that wants to do both pve and pvp well.

    Lastly, any guides for a new GF?

    Thanks

    conqueror is just that, more damage, less tanking/utility.

    Protector and Tactician play similarly, but Tact is more kite like a headless chicken and allowing you and party to churn out more Daily powers.

    Honestly, all work fairly well in pvp.
  • epclipseingmoonepclipseingmoon Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    well lots of people want pet turtles when they seek us out... So they probally saw you were a conqueror and got scared and ran off because you werent a harmless protector or tactition. lol seriously people that kick you for that are not worth your time :)
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