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GF broke again, happy days didn't last long
matthiasthehun76
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Hi my fellow GF players!
Was grinding my gear in Dwarven Valley today, still miss some parts, RNG kills me.
Beholder was up and we rushed to it, looked around and saw quiet a small group of fellow GFs, my heart always beats faster, my own kind!
Now we were fighting it and bang i was one shot by the Beholder with my GF, having 5,2k defense and the max Con of 26. Ok i thought this might be a glitch or a lag somewhere, went back again, replay, the same thing, only it took the beast now 2 shots. LOL, third time again, 1 shot, i was down.
I said to myself what the heck is going on here, i do Valindra and Malabog and other stuff, i am not a beginner, my char has 17,5k GS and with my shield up, i lie in the dirt after 1 shot.
After it i asked many of my fellow GFs, what did they see, nothing, they were also down many times, except the ones, who saw it and only thought with the mobs.
Was grinding my gear in Dwarven Valley today, still miss some parts, RNG kills me.
Beholder was up and we rushed to it, looked around and saw quiet a small group of fellow GFs, my heart always beats faster, my own kind!
Now we were fighting it and bang i was one shot by the Beholder with my GF, having 5,2k defense and the max Con of 26. Ok i thought this might be a glitch or a lag somewhere, went back again, replay, the same thing, only it took the beast now 2 shots. LOL, third time again, 1 shot, i was down.
I said to myself what the heck is going on here, i do Valindra and Malabog and other stuff, i am not a beginner, my char has 17,5k GS and with my shield up, i lie in the dirt after 1 shot.
After it i asked many of my fellow GFs, what did they see, nothing, they were also down many times, except the ones, who saw it and only thought with the mobs.
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Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
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Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
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While we're complaining about Block not working, how about we complain about Ray of Frost in PvP, too? The frozen status is completely unblockable, and when frozen you can't block, so you get chain CC'd every time. Makes me rage when I see CW on the enemy team.
Those are, however, the only thing's I've run into that are consistently unblockable.
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http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?737641-Trying-to-tank-Black-Ice-Beholder
+ If someone does 200k dmg 90% (that s only if they fix the guard from the preview to add up our DR to the guard DR, if not 80% is the base.) of that means 180k dmg that means that through your guard goes 20k dmg... so do some math about it and u ll see how bosses hit like !@#$%^&*()
Are you wearing full Black Ice gear when eating his AOE? With 41k HP and only two-piece Black Ice gear (thanks to horrible RNG and what ever bogus scoring systems they use) I cannot take it.
Except, wait, I almost forgot that he can also, for some reason, damage me when I'm invulnerable for 5 seconds after using a Daily (a bug I've never run into before IWD).
Maybe, and here's my thinking: maybe IWD enemies deal a different sort of damage (Black Ice damage, I guess) which is only reduced by the Black Ice Resistance stat. The devs just forgot to give block 80% Black Ice Resistance, too, and that's why us unfortunate people stuck without full Black Ice armor are having such a bad time of it. That just seems like the most reasonable explanation to me, because 40k damage spears just doesn't sound right, I'd be seeing everyone dropping left and right if that were so.
Whats up with GFs these days? They recieve more buffs than the other classes combined and still they fall into old habbits of beeing a cry baby.
Ur not a GF master, OP, are you?
I am no GF, but the concerns are valid, being a guardian that can get one shot killed, regardless of how high a gs they have, does not conform to what a tank should in general be able to do.
I disagree, many GFs I see HP stacking and they die faster then I do. High HP is necessary but 2k-5k extra hp against players is 1 hit, against mobs is 1/2 a hit! I say Deflection is key the higher it is the more effective block is and mitigating damage.
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
If you think, that the OP failed, then you just suck.
The black ice damage was a huge fail from the start. Do you think the weak/OS classes like CW/TR/SW get penalized with it? NO!
Assuming 20k BID:
No ressistance against it:
20k to EVERY class. So a tank get 20k like a nondefense having TR/CW/SW?!
20% BID ressistance:
Again a joke!
16k to the wearer. As this matter for a tank... A tank have 50%+! DR and he take 80% of this fufu?
Please enlighten me why this damage type, which create/abuse 3 bugs, was introduced to this game? As I intercepted a 40k+ from the boss in Spellplague Caverns, that was a high value(with 56%+ DR!).
This fufu damage only bring tanks effecience down and force to use new, most useless, gear to have a little bit protection. Yeah...
But Block blocked at PTS correct 80% of BID(have screenshots from it). But as I said: Useless feature ever.
@below: Imagine for GWF it's impossible to go into unstoppable from each CC.(that's like we are most of the time - especially against CW)
We did receive a lot of buffs, however some of them were reverted before live, and many are bugged still! Yes we have much better utility then before which speaks volumes about how bad we were...
Our block is all we have, thats it we cannot dodge, or run away, of stealth or teleport, we can't even unstoppable! All we have is armor that means almost nothing, and a shield atm is only useful 70% of the time! So yeah we are complaining a little, I bet if your class mechanic was broken 30% of the time you would be upset too?
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
You mean how wicked strike rubberbands you 100% of the time making sprint and running way impossible? I'll take your 30%.
I played my GF in endgame pve/pvp along time. Sometimes even as a tank you have to run out of situations. Tank doesnt mean u can just stand dumb in red zones holding one key, sorry. Actually knowing how to use mobility was and will always be the key to be a good tank.
Also tanks were great before mod4 but only few people knew that because 1. many players are class and dps <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and 2. many GF lack the understanding what the role of the GF is. Even now in mod4.
The OP just shows this attitude of unreasonable whining with his post and assumption that the GF days are over just because he got one shotted by a black ice beholder, instead he could have moved his as.s out of the red.
That is true but doesn't negate what I said as facts. Our block is bugged, and no matter how great of a GF you may be will not change it.
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
We should have limits to the damage we can take and an occasional AOE blast from a pretty tough ''boss'' is fine by me.
I think GF in PVE should be Crit immune!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
I'm kind of surprised they didn't put this in either epic GF sets as heavy fortification or somewhere in the protection path. Many mmo's use this as a way to differentiate tanks from melee dps, and give boss mobs high crit on their auto attacks so that if you aren't a tank you go splat.
With bosses/encounters in IWD it's partly down to them doin insane damage with their red/strong attacks and that a lot of them do this damage as black ice damage, which is only reduced by black ice resistance.
My opinion on bosses in this game is that the majority rely too much on dodgeable red attacks, which is why you get people who arent a GF or even a GWF claiming they can tank them. I expect if like charon said that bosses and other enemies relied more on stronger, faster standard melee attacks that arent so dodgeable then these ppl would learn fast not to try and do our job
I couldn't agree more. but I think then we will be CC toys (like we are in PK, SP, LoL, every dungeon that has CC stacked in it) and we ll die cause we can t do anything... I think they should add in game for every class in PVE only you cannot be CC when u are already in a CC... like the traps in the new dungeon (LoL) that CC you like hell and the guard is just there for the fun of having a guard...
How i love polite people! LOL How dare you talk negatively about players, calling them dumb, you don't even know or have seen in action, get yourself decent manners! I chose this title for the thread, because i got taught at my schools to use big words like this LOL, if i have written for instance: "GF bug", nobody would have responded, this is called PR knowledge.;)
Secondly, i did move, but not always i admit it, was trying to test it, since i didn't do much Icewind since Mod4, as my GF completed it way back, just wanted to grind the gear further and since it, this was my first time against the Beholder and before Mod 4 i could avoid being one shot!
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke