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Female Dragonborn

stah01stah01 Member Posts: 540 Arc User
edited August 2014 in The Moonstone Mask (PC)
Anyone else think these are the least female you can get in a model. Im not sure I can tell the difference between males and females. Frankly there is no 'sex appeal' for lack of a better word. Not pretty or even nice to look at.

Just wondering if anyone else is dissapointed in the female models. Gonna try a male again.
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  • valwrynvalwryn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,620 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    They're reptilian....what ya expect. :rolleyes:
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  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    valwryn wrote: »
    They're reptilian....what ya expect. :rolleyes:

    <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>? :p

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  • sexwax45sexwax45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    stah01 wrote: »
    Anyone else think these are the least female you can get in a model. Im not sure I can tell the difference between males and females. Frankly there is no 'sex appeal' for lack of a better word. Not pretty or even nice to look at.

    Just wondering if anyone else is dissapointed in the female models. Gonna try a male again.
    I know and feel the exact same way that's why out of all my chars the dragonborn is the only male.
  • valwrynvalwryn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,620 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Don't recall ever seeing <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> on a crocogator. :confused:
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  • elusiveonen7elusiveonen7 Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    It's true, they shouldn't even have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, but this is a fantasy game made by males, so they could be a lot more attractive.
  • darkstarcrashdarkstarcrash Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    <sarcasm> Can they at least have long fluttering eyelashes and rosy lipstick? </sarcasm>

    I find it refreshing that they are emphasizing the reptilian nature of the dragonborn. I'm pretty happy with the customization of spines and frills, very appropriate for the race.
  • crixus8000crixus8000 Member Posts: 1,205 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    You cant really change that much since they look like turtles but the only ways I could think of making them look more "attractive" is giving them a more feminine face, <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and a less male body lol.
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  • stah01stah01 Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    lol turtles.. perfect.

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  • chaoscourtesanchaoscourtesan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The female is the pretty one...


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  • crixus8000crixus8000 Member Posts: 1,205 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    chaoscourtesan wrote: »
    The female is the pretty one...


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    LOL that actually looks just like the in game dragonborn.
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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well, they turned orcs into barbies, so why not overgrown lizards?
  • hefisdohefisdo Member Posts: 709 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    Honestly? I hate fanservice :U

    So I think it's good as it is.
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  • valwrynvalwryn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,620 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    If global warming is really true than humans will evolve in Sleestaks. Then all the other races will look unsexy. If ya want the female dragonborns to look sexy now, just drink a barrel of dwarven ale. Just be warned that you might wake-up with an Illithid. :eek:
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  • caexarcaexar Member Posts: 355 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    chaoscourtesan wrote: »
    The female is the pretty one...


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    Lol you win the internet! I can understand the basic concept of adding features to them which accentuate their characteristics beyond the basic simian appearance, but was anyone really expecting a reptilian humanoid to have mammary glands?
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  • kiralynkiralyn Member Posts: 1,440 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    caexar wrote: »
    Lol you win the internet! I can understand the basic concept of adding features to them which accentuate their characteristics beyond the basic simian appearance, but was anyone really expecting a reptilian humanoid to have mammary glands?

    If I'd stopped to think about it at all? Yes. Because pretty much every other game in existence with a anthropomorphized-animal race, has visibly female models. /shrug

    May not make sense, but it's always nice to have a clear differentiation between the "male" and "female" characters. Otherwise, why bother even making two? Just make one model ("Dragonborn") and be done with it.
  • ixalmarisixalmaris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    kiralyn wrote: »
    If I'd stopped to think about it at all? Yes. Because pretty much every other game in existence with a anthropomorphized-animal race, has visibly female models. /shrug

    May not make sense, but it's always nice to have a clear differentiation between the "male" and "female" characters. Otherwise, why bother even making two? Just make one model ("Dragonborn") and be done with it.

    See the Iksar in Everquest 2. Two very different models but no <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
  • ysil6969ysil6969 Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Well I guess they could add better <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to them. But unfortunately for everyone who doesn't like the look, that's 4e dragonborn.

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    edited August 2014
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  • ixalmarisixalmaris Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    ysil6969 wrote: »
    Well I guess they could add better <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> to them. But unfortunately for everyone who doesn't like the look, that's 4e dragonborn.

    And among the Pen & Paper players this also caused a huge debate.
  • essentiessenti Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 303 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    caexar wrote: »
    Lol you win the internet! I can understand the basic concept of adding features to them which accentuate their characteristics beyond the basic simian appearance, but was anyone really expecting a reptilian humanoid to have mammary glands?

    Dragonborn are not reptiles. They are warm-blooded draconian humanoids with life-spans equal to humans.

    The 4e ecology of dragonborn states that they are hatched from eggs AND that the mother nurses the young, weening them to solid food as they grow. Neverwinter's dragonborn babies would all starve to death... edit: ...if they didn't have mammalian feeding glands.
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  • shrewguyshrewguy Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The female dragonborn do have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and do have a more curved figure than the males.

    in other words, they look more feminine, you can easily tell the difference between males and females. Fortunately though, they didn't make the famales ooze sex appeal, which seems to be, horrifyingly, what people here are asking for.
  • stah01stah01 Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    shrewguy wrote: »
    The female dragonborn do have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, and do have a more curved figure than the males.

    in other words, they look more feminine, you can easily tell the difference between males and females. Fortunately though, they didn't make the famales ooze sex appeal, which seems to be, horrifyingly, what people here are asking for.

    Why is it horrifying to want to have a character model look pleasing. Yes how shocking and unlike natural human behavior. I feel like such an outcast wanting to look at something attractive... OMG THE SHAME!
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  • shrewguyshrewguy Member Posts: 150 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    stah01 wrote: »
    Why is it horrifying to want to have a character model look pleasing. Yes how shocking and unlike natural human behavior. I feel like such an outcast wanting to look at something attractive... OMG THE SHAME!

    Sexual objectification and 'looking at something pleasing' are not the same thing.

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    Do you think that would look better if we added sex appeal to it? made it curvy and had large <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>?

    Or the Mona Lisa, should we add more sex appeal to that, make her look like a page 3 girl?
  • jorifice1jorifice1 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Yesterday in PE, over by Knox, I saw one of the funniest Bugs I have ever run into in game yet.
    I was playing my new Dragonborn Warlock and returning to Knox to hand in a mission. As is my habit, I was inspecting the other Dragonborn toons around. I like to see what other folks are doing to make unique looking toons, a habit I picked up over in Champs.
    Well there was one Female Dragonborn in a Fashion Set, some kind of dress or other. I headed over. Now, my toon is quite large. I used a combination of hulking upper body and stumpy lower body that actually looks very, very good with the original Warlock stance ( the Huge Beast stance in Champions Online, and one of my favorites, so I have considerable experience making toons that look good using it). This Female was very, very short for a Dragonborn. From a distance she looked quite normal. However, I used the Shift skill to get closer and over did it a bit and ended up almost nose to nose with her. She only came up to my toons chest. That's when I got quite the shock. You see, from every other angle she was a perfectly normal Dragonborn, but looking straight down, as I was now doing, she had a figure that could only be described as "Power Girl-Esqu". I've never seen this before or since and I suspect that it had something to do with the dress item.
    She shifted off before I could apologize for a serious invasion of personal space and some serious, although inadvertent, ogling.
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  • dragoness10dragoness10 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 780 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    As a half dragon (half silver, half elven muttish descent) I have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. Since it's half elven muttish (RP for details) it's "HUGE" <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> at size C.

    Dragonborne being closer to reptiles in body I imagine are more of A-C cup as well due to a more reptilian form. D is right out unless they are six feet tall.

    Large <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> are mostly stuck on tiny female forms by men whom don't buy bras regularly.
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  • chaoscourtesanchaoscourtesan Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    All this sexy reptile talk...

    (Warning, not for everyone. And might want to down your speaker volume a bit. (It's Loud)) LOL

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  • angryspriteangrysprite Member Posts: 4,982 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    The primary difference between the sexes of Dragonborn is in the head. The <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> (I fell) are unnecessary, but as stated previously: they're designed that way for teen boys (at least that's all I can figure). At least they can;t be adjusted to ridiculous sizes (except for "Chest Depth").

    The primary difference is in the head with the Top (think "hair") - such as the wide flared look only on females and there is no chin adornment like you get with the males (such as bone or horns) - also the sideburn area there is a limited choice of fins or bone, where the male has one or two more. The females are also smaller and shorter.

    All mine will be male just because I like the bulkiness of them, but I created a throw-away female for farming skirmishes and that's why I took a close look at the differences in character creation.

    They aren;t supposed to be pretty and thank goodness. The sexification of game character have already gone far enough. Sexifying the female Dragonborn would have been way over-the-top I think. FUGLY = EpicWin.
  • ladymythosladymythos Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 637 Bounty Hunter
    edited August 2014
    stah01 wrote: »
    lol turtles.. perfect.

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    You mean Venus, the female turtle from the tv-series? The one that was so horribly bad that they promised to never bring her back? That female turtle? :p

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    On-topic, don't forget the Argonians in Elder Scrolls. They are definitely female, and yes, they have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. Reptilians lay eggs, but those eggs hatch into babies. Big babies perhaps, but they can still be babies. That is, if the dragonborn even lay eggs in the first place. It's not something I've spent time researching for obvious reasons. I don't care either way.
  • zshikarazshikara Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    I absolutely love the way female dragonborn look. I'd love a "no <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>" option since reptiles and dragons don't have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, but hey, these are anthro, which means human like features right? So I'm ok with <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>. I don't want them to really change anything. My main is going to be a female dragonborn soon.

    Part of the appeal to me is to look good to me without fitting the stereotype of what humans find attractive.
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  • rhoriangelusrhoriangelus Member Posts: 703 Arc User
    edited August 2014
    Dragons are fantasy creatures. They don't exist. They can have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> if the person making the dragon decides to put them there. That said. Dragonborn nurse their young. That means they have <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.

    http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/dragon/365/365_ecologyotdragonborn.pdf

    HOWEVER. I think the way they are is just right. I made a jot of jokes about rolling a dragonborn with huge <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>, but it was mostly out of the fact that if they HAD put a **** slider on the character creation screen, or made them uber feminine, it would've been utterly ridiculous to me.

    I did roll a female dragonborn, and I like her, even with her almost nonexistent <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and unfeminine dragon-face. She looks like a velociraptor. And my male dragonborn looks like Godzilla.
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