I can no longer find the items of the Gond event in the AH.
Looking in the misc. section where these items were to be found until the restart.
I posted a Wondrous Grommet for testing, as there might be no items around any longer.
So, basically the Gond items vanished from the AH! Please fix after dealing with the resonator issue.
They did change where the Doohickeys are found but they didnt move the Doohickeys that were already listed in the AH under Miscellaneous!!!!!!!!!!! They're stuck there and no one can bid on them! I have one in the AH that expires in 3 days for 7 hours for 255k! PLEASE move the existing listings to CONSUMABLES !
Please don't screw all of us who had them up in Misc!!
- Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -
"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour
"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
They did change where the Doohickeys are found but they didnt move the Doohickeys that were already listed in the AH under Miscellaneous!!!!!!!!!!! They're stuck there and no one can bid on them! I have one in the AH that expires in 3 days for 7 hours for 255k! PLEASE move the existing listings to CONSUMABLES !
Please don't screw all of us who had them up in Misc!!
yes, if someone bid on it you, as vendor, can not take it out any more.
if a few bid on it you might hope that they make a small race at the end, as I expect that a potential buyer still can see the item in the "my bid" tab. I wish you luck ...
Guess they did not think of this scenario when they ninja-patched this. A good example of a confidence-building measure!
Well this is a total nightmare for me. I truly hope they're able to move the existing listings into Consumables, I fear they won't but one can always hope. I feel a bit screwed over == rofl I.don't deserve to be screwed over
- Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -
"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour
"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
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baylen76Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
I'm also affected.
I have two Doohickeys on sale, one posted pre-patch and the other post-patch. The latter is fine/visible under Consumables, the pre-patch posted one which used to be under Miscellaneous now is "invisible" with a lowball bid on it which would make me lose over a million AD if it went through.
Since this is a technical issue and not my fault I'd like to see it fixed.
Miscellaneous now is "invisible" with a lowball bid on it which would make me lose over a million AD if it went through.
Let's be clear: you wouldn't "lose" anything. You simply would not receive something you do not have yet and the amount is the value you are placing on it, not anyone else. Apparently the lowball bidder has placed their value on it and you are the one who allowed them to do that.
With that said, I do agree that those proffers to sell should be moved, but it may be too much time and effort technically to be done (unfortunate) - I suppose it's one of those scenarios that will just have to suck and make for a "live and learn" moment.
If you want to sell something for a million AD, don't allow bidding to start at 100. (I know: exaggeration, but you get my point). The *proper* way to do it is to allow bidding to start at an amount you're willing to sell it for. Anything you receive above that should be considered "bonus".
Let's be clear: you wouldn't "lose" anything. You simply would not receive something you do not have yet and the amount is the value you are placing on it, not anyone else. Apparently the lowball bidder has placed their value on it and you are the one who allowed them to do that.
With that said, I do agree that those proffers to sell should be moved, but it may be too much time and effort technically to be done (unfortunate) - I suppose it's one of those scenarios that will just have to suck and make for a "live and learn" moment.
If you want to sell something for a million AD, don't allow bidding to start at 100. (I know: exaggeration, but you get my point). The *proper* way to do it is to allow bidding to start at an amount you're willing to sell it for. Anything you receive above that should be considered "bonus".
I don't like that train of thought, but it's true. Evil, but genuine truth hurts.
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baylen76Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
In the meantime, post-patch-posted buyouts have been sold which were actually higher than my pre-patch one. It's safe to deduct that the cheaper ones would've been bought/sold first, so yes, it would be a definite loss which can be directly attributed to the 'invisible' status of the item.
The bottom line is I posted an auction with a duration of 5 days, and it went invisible with more than 4 days left. Going "you should've set a higher minbid" on me serves no purpose other than to add insult to injury, and you're not making any friends with that attitude. If any "should" is applicable here it's along the lines of Cryptic should fix a mistake they've made. S..t happens, we're all human, but it's good style to also fix what you've broken.
In the meantime, post-patch-posted buyouts have been sold which were actually higher than my pre-patch one. It's safe to deduct that the cheaper ones would've been bought/sold first, so yes, it would be a definite loss which can be directly attributed to the 'invisible' status of the item.
The bottom line is I posted an auction with a duration of 5 days, and it went invisible with more than 4 days left. Going "you should've set a higher minbid" on me serves no purpose other than to add insult to injury, and you're not making any friends with that attitude. If any "should" is applicable here it's along the lines of Cryptic should fix a mistake they've made. S..t happens, we're all human, but it's good style to also fix what you've broken.
I am not saying you should have set a higher minimum bid. But you did now live with the consequence of your own decision, don't complain about it.
I am saying you can't claim it as a "loss", you can only claim it as a "missed gain". You are trying to make it sound like a heavier-burden hardship on you than it really is. Fair enough, everyone does that. I am simply countering that with "no, it's not that much of a hardship because it's not a loss". it is only your speculation of potential gain; a wild guess.
However, if your perceived loss is a million or more, then you've either over-priced your proffer (the difference between your starting bid and buy-out) or have greatly under-estimated the general perceived value (you have allowed a starting bid that is ridiculously less than it should have been, counting on a bidding war in the end). In either case it's the bed you've made.
baylen76Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
You're repeatedly posting under false premises: Under normal circumstances I would have never gotten anything less than buyout as even with weak bidding I could have asked my girlfriend to plain buyout the item for me. There's only a situation as the item is inaccessible despite still being "invisibly up" for more than 4 days.
The auction is plain jammed, the bug is undisputable, and this is a thread on the bug forum. It's for reporting bugs, which I've done, and it's not for bugging people who're affected by bugs. Got it? Thanks.
Whether you set a minimum bid or not the purpose of an auction is to ascertain the true value of an item to bidders. Complicating factors being # of bidders and discoverability, which is generally tied to length of the auction.
If other auctions are expiring at drastically higher values than his would, it is a failure of the auction system. The point isn't whether he is accountable for his not putting a higher minimum bid. Sellers and bidders trust the capability of the auction house to come to an agreeable price for both parties. If it fails on either end, it is not WAI and degrades the integrity of the auction house itself.
If I wouldve known that my auction only had 1.5 days to run for bids I **** sure wouldnt have listed for what I did.
- Major Peachy Bottom * Gutbuster's Brigade -
"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour
"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
"I am not saying you should have set a higher minimum bid."
In theory I would agree, but in this case the auction house is for "Bidding" NOT "Bid". The bottom line is the question of "is this working as intended?" and the answer to closing off bidding is simply no (though the min bid did work as intended).
I got lucky myself having 3 Gond items up for sale with a min bid alot lower than what the average selling is/was, but in my case there were no current bids so no loss.
Loss being defined in this case as comparable effort involved towards the item listed for sale. Some people P2W and could care less about a Mil AD, other's however see that as work towards their toon. There are always those on the extreme ends that list a single altar for several Mil AD and those that just want to have a bit of fun and list something useful with a starting bid of 1 AD just to fully embrace the bidding process.
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nwnghostMember, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
I was affected by this too and while noone bid on my items, I did lose the Posting Fee, which I am miffed about.
Customer Support is also unwilling to refund me the Posting Fee even though it was due to an error on their (Cryptic/PWE) part that I lost it in the first place
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hiukulimusMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 117
I was affected by this too and while noone bid on my items, I did lose the Posting Fee, which I am miffed about.
Customer Support is also unwilling to refund me the Posting Fee even though it was due to an error on their (Cryptic/PWE) part that I lost it in the first place
AH is like gambling... its at your own risk... instead of being greedy next time sell your items for cheaper price instead of trying to speculate about selling zen items.
I appreciated that pwe didnt help. Posting fee exist for that reason, to make sure that overprices items when not sold they will sink ad, becasue they are too overpriced.
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nwnghostMember, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
I'd prefer if you didn't post about things you don't know about.
They were not Zen items and they were all the lowest price. Except I listed them 30 mins before the maintenance which wiped them off AH and cost me my AD.
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dragoness10Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 780Arc User
edited August 2014
Future note - Perhaps it's best to only post event items awhile after the event has ended?
" I tried to figure out the enigma that was you, and then I realized mastering Wild Magic was easier." - Old Wizard in Waterdeep
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
Hey guys, I followed up with the devs about this issue and unfortunately there was nothing they could do to put the hidden items back in view. That being said, if no one bid on your items while they were visible, you should be getting them back once the auction runs out. Now that we are aware of this issue, we will be certain to check this for this in the future.
Thank you for your continued support.
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nwnghostMember, Moderators, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited August 2014
The items are returned just fine, but the posting fee to the Auction House is lost.
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Please don't screw all of us who had them up in Misc!!
"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour
"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
if a few bid on it you might hope that they make a small race at the end, as I expect that a potential buyer still can see the item in the "my bid" tab. I wish you luck ...
Guess they did not think of this scenario when they ninja-patched this. A good example of a confidence-building measure!
"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour
"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
I have two Doohickeys on sale, one posted pre-patch and the other post-patch. The latter is fine/visible under Consumables, the pre-patch posted one which used to be under Miscellaneous now is "invisible" with a lowball bid on it which would make me lose over a million AD if it went through.
Since this is a technical issue and not my fault I'd like to see it fixed.
Let's be clear: you wouldn't "lose" anything. You simply would not receive something you do not have yet and the amount is the value you are placing on it, not anyone else. Apparently the lowball bidder has placed their value on it and you are the one who allowed them to do that.
With that said, I do agree that those proffers to sell should be moved, but it may be too much time and effort technically to be done (unfortunate) - I suppose it's one of those scenarios that will just have to suck and make for a "live and learn" moment.
If you want to sell something for a million AD, don't allow bidding to start at 100. (I know: exaggeration, but you get my point). The *proper* way to do it is to allow bidding to start at an amount you're willing to sell it for. Anything you receive above that should be considered "bonus".
In the meantime, post-patch-posted buyouts have been sold which were actually higher than my pre-patch one. It's safe to deduct that the cheaper ones would've been bought/sold first, so yes, it would be a definite loss which can be directly attributed to the 'invisible' status of the item.
The bottom line is I posted an auction with a duration of 5 days, and it went invisible with more than 4 days left. Going "you should've set a higher minbid" on me serves no purpose other than to add insult to injury, and you're not making any friends with that attitude. If any "should" is applicable here it's along the lines of Cryptic should fix a mistake they've made. S..t happens, we're all human, but it's good style to also fix what you've broken.
I am not saying you should have set a higher minimum bid. But you did now live with the consequence of your own decision, don't complain about it.
I am saying you can't claim it as a "loss", you can only claim it as a "missed gain". You are trying to make it sound like a heavier-burden hardship on you than it really is. Fair enough, everyone does that. I am simply countering that with "no, it's not that much of a hardship because it's not a loss". it is only your speculation of potential gain; a wild guess.
However, if your perceived loss is a million or more, then you've either over-priced your proffer (the difference between your starting bid and buy-out) or have greatly under-estimated the general perceived value (you have allowed a starting bid that is ridiculously less than it should have been, counting on a bidding war in the end). In either case it's the bed you've made.
~Shrugs~
The auction is plain jammed, the bug is undisputable, and this is a thread on the bug forum. It's for reporting bugs, which I've done, and it's not for bugging people who're affected by bugs. Got it? Thanks.
If other auctions are expiring at drastically higher values than his would, it is a failure of the auction system. The point isn't whether he is accountable for his not putting a higher minimum bid. Sellers and bidders trust the capability of the auction house to come to an agreeable price for both parties. If it fails on either end, it is not WAI and degrades the integrity of the auction house itself.
"Last request - microtransactions for alllll old skins for zen/weapon appearance changes, 500 zen to make ur wep glow the color/enchant you want it... You will make more off that one item than any other zen item ever made." freshour
"beckylunatic" Gateway AH should have column headers to sort by buyout, bid, end time, quantity, etc. These disappeared iirc with the module launch. It's obnoxious.
In theory I would agree, but in this case the auction house is for "Bidding" NOT "Bid". The bottom line is the question of "is this working as intended?" and the answer to closing off bidding is simply no (though the min bid did work as intended).
I got lucky myself having 3 Gond items up for sale with a min bid alot lower than what the average selling is/was, but in my case there were no current bids so no loss.
Loss being defined in this case as comparable effort involved towards the item listed for sale. Some people P2W and could care less about a Mil AD, other's however see that as work towards their toon. There are always those on the extreme ends that list a single altar for several Mil AD and those that just want to have a bit of fun and list something useful with a starting bid of 1 AD just to fully embrace the bidding process.
Customer Support is also unwilling to refund me the Posting Fee even though it was due to an error on their (Cryptic/PWE) part that I lost it in the first place
AH is like gambling... its at your own risk... instead of being greedy next time sell your items for cheaper price instead of trying to speculate about selling zen items.
I appreciated that pwe didnt help. Posting fee exist for that reason, to make sure that overprices items when not sold they will sink ad, becasue they are too overpriced.
They were not Zen items and they were all the lowest price. Except I listed them 30 mins before the maintenance which wiped them off AH and cost me my AD.
"Why is it dragons only use ketchup? I'd like a little wasabi please. Us silvers like a variety of condiments."
"Don't call them foolish mortals. One, they don't learn from it. Two, It just ticks them off." - An Ancient Red Dragon
Hey guys, I followed up with the devs about this issue and unfortunately there was nothing they could do to put the hidden items back in view. That being said, if no one bid on your items while they were visible, you should be getting them back once the auction runs out. Now that we are aware of this issue, we will be certain to check this for this in the future.
Thank you for your continued support.