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gwf artifact weapons are bad

warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
edited July 2014 in NeverwinterPreview - Feedback/General Discussion
not even one of them have some good bonus while other classes gets a lot better bonuses from artifact weapons
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  • xgrandz02xgrandz02 Member Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    we already get hard Nerfs and now all this! PLS rework the bonus.
    Bonus on weapon for wicked strike or Reaping lol , both are absolutely useless skills.
    No one use them    . come on cryptic do not destroy GWFs completely.

    compared to HR + 30% speed or CW chill stack lol, whats going here....


    I have to say:
    all this change to take my pleasure to continue playing!
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  • elusiveonen7elusiveonen7 Member Posts: 190 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    xgrandz02 wrote: »
    we already get hard Nerfs and now all this! PLS rework the bonus.
    Bonus on weapon for wicked strike or Reaping lol , both are absolutely useless skills.
    No one use them    . come on cryptic do not destroy GWFs completely.

    compared to HR + 30% speed or CW chill stack lol, whats going here....


    I have to say:
    all this change to take my pleasure to continue playing!

    Are you one of those guys that only looks at things from the perspective of a PvPer? What do you mean no one uses Wicked Strike?
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    elusiveonen7 wrote: »
    Are you one of those guys that only looks at things from the perspective of a PvPer? What do you mean no one uses Wicked Strike?
    You only use wicked if you're a IV in pve. No one however uses reaping. Sure Strike gets used for single target but that's it. If you're a PVE swordmaster none of the bonuses will help you much as 99% of pve is aoe.
  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    What!? :eek: The things that I have to read.

    Wicked Strike is also used by the IV in PvE, if you think that only the SM is the way to go for a GWF in PvE geez... The Wicked Strike bonus is simply perfect for an IV.
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  • saini50990saini50990 Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    GWF are getting short end of the stick,
    all artifact weapon are kind of way disappointing.
    the new armor provide only 3% armor penetration which also kind of disappointing.
    reaping strike, no1 uses it as far i know.
  • iamannoyingdeviliamannoyingdevil Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Ooooh look , what a rare occurrence , a GWF thread complaining that the buff isn't big enough and they should get more than everybody else .

    The artifact weapons buff at wills for every class ,if you guys (and I'm guessing it is manly the pvp crowd) choose not to make use of a particular at will then that is your choice , what is it you want? GWF arti weapons to buff an encounter for you or something? I'm just waiting for the post saying the artifact weapon should give a GWF at-will a prone....
  • godhricgodhric Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 437 Bounty Hunter
    edited July 2014
    saini50990 wrote: »
    GWF are getting short end of the stick,

    reaping strike, no1 uses it as far i know.

    They are all boosts to basic (non-paragon) at-wills.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    iamannoyingdevil wrote: »
    Ooooh look , what a rare occurrence , a GWF thread complaining that the buff isn't big enough and they should get more than everybody else .

    The artifact weapons buff at wills for every class ,if you guys (and I'm guessing it is manly the pvp crowd) choose not to make use of a particular at will then that is your choice , what is it you want? GWF arti weapons to buff an encounter for you or something? I'm just waiting for the post saying the artifact weapon should give a GWF at-will a prone....
    xD
    Yeah, they were probably expecting bonus to IBS, roar, takedown and frontline surge encounters as those are the main source of dps for them in PvP. An exception exclusively just for their class... :)
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  • tckbloodlinetckbloodline Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I want an artifact that gives cw minus 10 icd reduction... It's always what we Want. Stick with the drill and be happy what we get. It is not up to us what we can/cannot have - you might as well create your own game.
  • saini50990saini50990 Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    oh CW weapon and HR weapon are getting like 10% chill bonus dmg and 30% faster speed while what does GWF get , bonud dmg after 3 strike with sure strike , dmg reduction and buff after 4th reaping strike (which no1 uses) , last 1 i dont even remember .
    u cant expect for GWF to play with these ****ty bonuses on there weapon , while every other class get that good buffs.
    ok tell u what i will post GWF new artifact weapon bonuses and u post ur own class bonuses and we will compare to see if GWF has got anything good.
    oh and post the new armor buffs too.
  • iamannoyingdeviliamannoyingdevil Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    One of the cw ones is getting 10% damage increase to magic missile (which nobody will use when renegade is rendered useless in module 4 )

    Another is getting an increased stack of chill after 1 and 4 seconds of continuous ray of frost casting , the only thing is it takes less than 4 seconds to freeze a target with ray of frost so the second stack is useless unless they think we will stand there spamming ray of frost after the target has been frozen .

    So GWF aren't the only class with useless artifact weapon buffs by a long shot.I think they aren't intended to be huge buffs , they are just a small added bonus on at-wills you would be using anyway.
  • saini50990saini50990 Member Posts: 309 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?692681-Official-Feedback-Thread-Great-Weapon-Fighter-Changes&p=8520611&viewfull=1#post8520611
    the pic and about new artifact weapons and armor of GWF.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    saini50990 wrote: »
    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?692681-Official-Feedback-Thread-Great-Weapon-Fighter-Changes&p=8520611&viewfull=1#post8520611
    the pic and about new artifact weapons and armor of GWF.

    As someone pointed out after your post, the stats improve as the quality improves. Not seen the gf stats, but the dc ones seem to be the worst imo since their at wills aren't that significant by themselves. Lance of faith has little use, maybe in pvp, the temp hp on sacred flame is so minute that the bonus will barely help and I guess astral seal may help somewhat for healing but...
  • reagenlionel1reagenlionel1 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    As apparently one of the few people that use Reaping Strike. i'm satisfied.
  • warpetwarpet Member Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    So GWF aren't the only class with useless artifact weapon buffs by a long shot.I think they aren't intended to be huge buffs , they are just a small added bonus on at-wills you would be using anyway.[/QUOTE]

    on cw weapon improve damage of whole at will by 10% while at gwf every 3 hit of one at will by 4%

    i agre some classes have bad weapon bonuses but at least they are not useless as gwfs are only solid one would be the one with wicked strike if istigator gwf would be worth of takeing since only at him wicked strike is solid at will

    btw bit of topic but dose anyone know will higher rank of weapon improve its damage?and dose higher rank of weapon improve special weapon bonuses ?
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    warpet wrote: »
    on cw weapon improve damage of whole at will by 10% while at gwf every 3 hit of one at will by 4%

    The CW weapon that was mentioned that gives 10% increase is at legendary the GWF one you are talking about is at green level , the GWF artifact weapons at legendary can be seen here - http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?716931-Module-4-GF-GWF-Legendary-Artifact-Weapons&p=8517331&viewfull=1#post8517331
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  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    iambecks1 wrote: »
    The CW weapon that was mentioned that gives 10% increase is at legendary the GWF one you are talking about is at green level , the GWF artifact weapons at legendary can be seen here - http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?716931-Module-4-GF-GWF-Legendary-Artifact-Weapons&p=8517331&viewfull=1#post8517331

    Yeah thats my thread. TBH they are ok - any GWF who PVPs will be running with Ferocity.
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