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Still Don't understand?

ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
edited June 2014 in PvE Discussion
I do not get how people that played like an alt and did a day of PVP are higher then me?

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  • crazymikeecrazymikee Member Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    a GWF a few places below you is almost negative KDR, haha
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  • eldartheldarth Member Posts: 4,494 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Um... if you were to look at only win:loss percentage...

    You: 57.8%
    Them: 68.75%

    ...but even that is irrelevant -- their ELO rating (conveniently not shown by Cryptic) is higher than yours.
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  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    eldarth wrote: »
    Um... if you were to look at only win:loss percentage...

    You: 57.8%
    Them: 68.75%

    ...but even that is irrelevant -- their ELO rating (conveniently not shown by Cryptic) is higher than yours.

    Whats the math on that? So i have 190 games played 110 wins / he has 32 games played 22 wins so you're telling me he beat me in rank because he played less?


    Thats ****ing bull****!
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  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    K/d ratio / Assists need to play a part and if they don't remove them!

    So if we had a Soap box derby race based on Chris's logic:

    Player A competed in 32 races and won 22 and stopped competing.

    Player b played in 190 races and won 110 of them and still races daily and player A is higher ranked even though he's sitting at home not racing?
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  • micky1p00micky1p00 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,594 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    In Elo Ratings it matters against who you won or lost, if another person played 10 games but won against the best of the best in some of them and lost to his own level. And another played 20 but won against lower ranked. The person with the 10 games will be much higher.
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    **** the scoreboard. Only judge your game and performance in it by how much fun you actually have while playing. The minute you stop enjoying it for whatever reason go play an alt or better yet quit for the day/week/month. All these different rating systems and score boards are only implemented to make people feel inferior and to boost sales as a result.
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  • eldartheldarth Member Posts: 4,494 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ripyourlipsoff wrote: »
    Whats the math on that? So i have 190 games played 110 wins / he has 32 games played 22 wins so you're telling me he beat me in rank because he played less?
    Thats ****ing bull****!


    No, I was saying IF you were to only look at win:loss ratio:

    His 22 wins / 32 games = 0.6875 == wins 68.75% of games played
    Your 110 wins / 190 games = 0.5789 == wins 57.89% of games played.

    So, based solely on win ratio, he has a higher win percentage than you.

    Which is STILL irrelevant because it is actually based on the ELO rating system, which as someone mentioned you go "up" in rank if you beat higher ranked opponents, and you go down in rank when you lose. Number of games played, and whether or not they are currently playing, or haven't played in months doesn't matter.

    Cryptic really needs to show the ELO rating on the scoreboard.
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  • lewel555lewel555 Member Posts: 616 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    At third line there is also a mage with less wins, more losses, less kills, more deaths than you, and still more points than you.
    What the board should display, and does not, is the strength of the opposition you met. In chess if I get one win and nine losses against Kasparow, my Elo will be much higher than if I had defeated 10-0 a newbie.
  • ripyourlipsoffripyourlipsoff Member Posts: 1,552 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I am not going to look anymore then, because all it does is enrages me!
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  • silverkeltsilverkelt Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,235 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ripyourlipsoff wrote: »
    I am not going to look anymore then, because all it does is enrages me!

    Bro, you do seem a little tightly wound.. on just about every subject :p
  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    ripyourlipsoff wrote: »
    I am not going to look anymore then, because all it does is enrages me!
    If you get enraged by a video game scoreboard then you may need to take a break for a while. Or drink less caffeine.

    The scoreboard is bullshine. Simples. Even if they added the ELO rating ist would still be bullshine. Because it's giving you a PERSONAL rating based on the results of a TEAM.
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  • grimahgrimah Member Posts: 1,658 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    What I do understand is, I play a game WIN and also get a positive kill death ratio, some caps etc.

    and i DROP down a page or 2. Maybe its because other people did even better than I did in other games but to have 20+ people overtake me in that instant is very strange.
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  • kolevrakolevra Member Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    twilightwatchman wrote: »
    The scoreboard is bullshine. Simples. Even if they added the ELO rating ist would still be bullshine. Because it's giving you a PERSONAL rating based on the results of a TEAM.

    This is the MOST important fact that people need to realize about the leaderboard. Premades heavily skew the accuracy of the leaderboard for this very fact. I guarantee that if the ladder were reset and solo-queue was enforced, the leaderboard would become 100x more accurate.
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  • slushpsychoslushpsycho Member Posts: 657 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    Because you on page 87?... That is not really high at all.
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